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Doc Dump: White House Knew
IBD Editorials ^ | October 3, 2011 | Staff

Posted on 10/03/2011 5:01:54 PM PDT by Kaslin

Scandal: Friday's release of documents shows the extent of White House contact with the ATF over Operation Fast and Furious. Included is a map showing where the guns went in Mexico — enough weapons for a Marine unit.

In a classic news-dampening maneuver, some, but not all, documents requested by congressional investigators looking at administration gun-running were released late Friday by the White House. Usually this is done to avoid the full impact of politically embarrassing or, in this case, potentially incriminating news.

As we noted in July, Special Agent in Charge William Newell, recently promoted to a cushy job with a tighter leash in Washington, D.C., admitted in testimony on Capitol Hill that he had been in contact with then-White House National Security Council staffer Kevin O'Reilly, who Newell said was a "good friend."

The document dump confirms this was more than casual chatting between friends and involved more than a simple single inquiry. O'Reilly at the time was national security director for North America and tasked with monitoring the activities of Mexican drug cartels.

Newell testified in July that O'Reilly had inquired about the status of the operation to brief administration officials before a trip to Mexico. Newell sent O'Reilly the requested information with the caveat, "You didn't get this from me."

As CBS News has reported, the email exchanges between Newell and O'Reilly lasted for more than a month. Among the documents produced is an email Newell sent O'Reilly with an "arrow chart reflecting the ultimate destination of firearms we intercepted and/or where the guns ended up."

(Excerpt) Read more at investors.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; dea; dhs; doj; ericholder; fastandfurious; fbi; guncontrol; gunrunner; guns; gunwalker; holder; ibd; ibdguns; ice; obama

1 posted on 10/03/2011 5:02:01 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I eagerly await hearing the hushed, serious tones of the ABCCBSNBC news anchors discussing this across the country tonight at 11 and a front page headline the NY Times tomorrow morning....


2 posted on 10/03/2011 5:16:07 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Cain 2012!)
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To: Kaslin

The couple of comments after this article are interesting, too.


3 posted on 10/03/2011 5:21:13 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Personal Responsibility

Not to defend CBS, but they are only one from the LSM who have reported the scandal


4 posted on 10/03/2011 5:22:17 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: basil

There are 3 now


5 posted on 10/03/2011 5:24:43 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin

To be fair, I haven’t watched the evening news in a long time. My assumption that anything that would injure Obama’s re-election chances will not be reported is a reflex.


6 posted on 10/03/2011 5:24:43 PM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Cain 2012!)
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To: Personal Responsibility
I eagerly await hearing the hushed, serious tones of the ABCCBSNBC news anchors discussing this across the country tonight at 11 and a front page headline the NY Times tomorrow morning....

I can't wait for the nightly displays of the diagrams with the faces of the major players and the circles and arrows showing how they interacted with each other.

Oh, yeah. That was a Republican scandal.

Now that the shoe is on the other foot, we'll just have to content ourselves with "this so-called scandal is much too complicated to place before the general public. The tune-out factor would just be too much for our sponsors to deal with."

7 posted on 10/03/2011 5:28:25 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: Kaslin

Sink the corrupt bastards.


8 posted on 10/03/2011 5:29:57 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR so, support it! If you support Sarah Palin, & want on her ping list, let me know!)
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To: Kaslin

Of course this goes all the way to obammy’s office. He had to have signed off on this, I should think.

Issa and Grassly need to appoint a special prosecutor—YESTERDAY!


9 posted on 10/03/2011 5:44:07 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin

I suspect the fact that CBS is reporting this is very significant. Has Big Media given up on Barry?


10 posted on 10/03/2011 5:47:57 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Kaslin

These released docs are a snowjob. They are about GUNRUNNER, not Fast and Spurious. GUNRUNNER was a legit op.


11 posted on 10/03/2011 5:50:28 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: basil
Of course this goes all the way to obammy’s office. He had to have signed off on this, I should think.

obammy’s excuse...I just have too much stuff to sign off on.

Ok all forgiven Ok, just too much stuff...

12 posted on 10/03/2011 5:56:08 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: DManA; Kaslin

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2787321/posts
NEW INFO

Fox Video
http://video.foxnews.com/v/1198190674001/new-document-sheds-light-on-fast-and-furious/?playlist_id=86858

I waited to check if this wasn’t one of the old GUNRUNNER speeches. It ISN’T.

CBS Video
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7383343n


13 posted on 10/03/2011 6:16:14 PM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: PoloSec

I think even that excuse is wearing thin with the public now—and of course this was explained to him before he signed off on it.

This was going to be his back door way to eliminate the 2A.


14 posted on 10/03/2011 6:16:36 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Nachum; markomalley; Clairity; Carlucci; grey_whiskers; meyer; WL-law; Para-Ord.45; ...

Fast and Furious ping


15 posted on 10/03/2011 6:27:54 PM PDT by raptor22 (Join me on Twitter @gerfingerpoken)
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To: Kaslin

I was hoping this was about F&F/etc. when I saw that title but there are fifty other topics a “WH knew document dump” could have been about.


16 posted on 10/03/2011 6:57:42 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: basil
Of course this goes all the way to obammy’s office. He had to have signed off on this, I should think.

Well, it is an international scandal, so I'm sure Obama had his finger prints on the paperwork. Wonder why Mexico isn't screaming about this?. . . well some in their government are, but not the big guys. Sounds fishy to me.

17 posted on 10/03/2011 7:31:43 PM PDT by mia
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To: basil
Issa and Grassly need to appoint a special prosecutor—YESTERDAY!

Sorry, but Issa and Grassley can't appoint a special prosecutor. Congress doesn't have that authority.

That's up to the Attorney General's office, with the express approval of the President.

The best strategy for Issa and Grassley is to keep moving the investigation forward, continuing strategic leaks to the media, until a new president and a new AG take office in January, 2013.

Then, they can drop the dime on the whole corrupt venture.

Of course, Obama will probably pardon everybody on his way out the door...

18 posted on 10/03/2011 7:32:33 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Kaslin

Imp[each the incompetent SOB in the White House.

We can withstand a year and a half of the idiot Biden in charge.


19 posted on 10/03/2011 7:44:16 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Venturer; All
ERIC HOLDER LIED UNDER OATH!… Documents Confirm the Obama AG Knew of Fast & Furious in 2010 (Video)

Breaking: Obama AG Eric Holder Lied Under Oath

20 posted on 10/03/2011 7:57:09 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: PoloSec
"obammy’s excuse...I just have too much stuff to sign off on."

Can't have all that work stuff interfering with his vacations and golf game...

21 posted on 10/03/2011 7:58:40 PM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Kaslin

I find that all the news channels are using distraction in order not to cover the FF, Solyndra, Kagan, crashing stock market and economy, and other scandals. They spend all their news time with Kate & William, appeal trial in Italy, junkie Michael Jackson’s doctors trial, and any other ET non-news stuff to fill the allotted time. Anything but covering the news.


22 posted on 10/03/2011 7:58:48 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (There's a pill for just about everything ... except stupid!)
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To: okie01

Thanks! I didn’t know all of that. But I still say, whatever it takes, something has to happen to punish those responsible for Gun Walker and Fast and Furious.

Hundred of people have been murdered because of these two programs.


23 posted on 10/03/2011 8:20:21 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil

Whoops! Make that hundredS!


24 posted on 10/03/2011 8:23:45 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: basil
...something has to happen to punish those responsible for Gun Walker and Fast and Furious.

Under the current administration, that will simply be impossible.

And, as a rule, an incoming administration overlooks any illegal or corrupt behavior on the part of the previous administration. Seems to be a "political courtesy", so to speak.

In this case, though, the lawbreaking and corruption has been so egregious, so widespread, so subversive of both our Constitution and a neighboring country...not to mention the direct cause of hundreds of deaths...that it should be incumbent on the incoming administration to a.) complete the investigation and b.) severely punish those responsible.

If, as a nation, we condone this type of behavior on the part of any administration, we are asking for even worse behavior in the future.

Even if Obama pardons everybody, the facts of the case must be determined and fully publicized. The full degree of criminality and corruption must be exposed.

25 posted on 10/03/2011 8:47:52 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01

You are absolutely correct. This thing has international connections. Our government cannot cause the deaths of hundreds of citizens in another country without a declaration of war, as I understand it—Viet Nam notwithstanding.


26 posted on 10/03/2011 8:57:33 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Kaslin

OMO Holder not only knew, he and Obama planned the whole thing.

Now: Is Holder going to take the heat himself or will he squeal on his Bro——Obama.

OR: Will Issa and his investigation fold up like a cheap suit.

It appears that this thing has finally gotten to the point where it can no longer be hidden, even by a Media that lives up Obama’s rectum. The Stinky Stuff is about to hit the fan, and by all rights should lead to Impeachment. Killing over 200 Mexicans and at Least One Border Patrol Agent is a little more than Mexicans and the American Public should have to put up with in order to carry out Obama’s anti-gun agenda.


27 posted on 10/04/2011 3:39:24 AM PDT by Venturer
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