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Gunwalker: Holder Appears To Be Fast, Furious, and Finished
Pajamas Media ^ | 10/3/2011 | Bob Owens

Posted on 10/04/2011 4:53:23 AM PDT by IbJensen

News documents indicate that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder more than likely perjured himself in congressional testimony about Operation Fast and Furious earlier this year.

Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News and William LaJeunesse of Fox News have been the only mainstream media reporters diligently working on the most important scandal in White House history, and it is no surprise that they concurrently released information indicating that the attorney general, who claimed in direct testimony on May 3 of this year in front of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee that he first heard about Operation Fast and Furious “over the last few weeks,” had actually been briefed on the program in a memo by the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center almost a year earlier on July 5, 2010.

A copy of the heavily redacted weekly report posted by CBS News offers direct evidence that not only was the attorney general briefed on Operation Fast and Furious, but that he was briefed on it regularly and was well aware that the program was sending thousands of weapons into the hands of the Sinaloa cartel:

From July 12 through July 16, the National Drug Intelligence Center Document and Media Exploitation Team at the Phoenix Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCTDETF) Strike Force will support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ Phoenix Field Division with its investigation of Manuel Celis-Acosta as part of OCDETF Operation Fast and Furious. This investigation, initiated in September 2009 in conjunction with the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the Phoenix Police Department, involves a Phoenix-based firearms trafficking ring headed by Manual Celis-Acosta. Celis-Acosta and [redacted] straw purchasers are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels. They also have direct ties to the Sinaloa Cartel which is suspected of providing $1 million for the purchase of firearms in the greater Phoenix area.

That excerpt stated what the task force would do in the near future, while the same language was used later in the report to show what the task force had done that week:

From July 6 through July 9, the National Drug Intelligence Center Document and Media Exploitation Team at the Phoenix Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force (OCTDETF) Strike Force will support the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives’ Phoenix Field Division with its investigation of Manuel Celis-Acosta as part of OCDETF Operation Fast and Furious. This investigation, initiated in September 2009 in conjunction with the Drug Enforcement Administration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and the Phoenix Police Department, involves a Phoenix-based firearms trafficking ring headed by Manual Celis-Acosta. Celis-Acosta and [redacted] straw purchasers are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to Mexican drug trafficking cartels. They also have direct ties to the Sinaloa Cartel which is suspected of providing $1 million for the purchase of firearms in the greater Phoenix area.

Attorney General Holder’s eventual criminal defense attorney is certain to state that the attorney general is provided with dozens of reports each week, and that is within the realm of reasonable doubt that he simply overlooked or did not remember the specifics of this memo.

Prosecutors would likely cast doubt on such a claim, citing the fact that the report was named Operation Fast and Furious, that it referred to the number of guns walked by the program at that time (1,500), and that it even noted how much they thought the Sinaloa cartel had budgeted for weapons ($1 million). They will then note that this information was cited twice in each weekly report for both current and future operations.

The prosecutors will more than likely be able to state with a great degree of certainly that Holder was provided this information in x number of weekly reports spanning y number of months in a report that only cites the most important National Drug Intelligence Center cases.


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Eric Withholder is fast and furiously meeting his day of reckoning.

He is of the Obama mold: protective pigmentation has given him a lifetime of privilege. Even now he probably thinks the race card will magically protect him and his shock troops headed by the lubricious Al Sharpton will ride to his rescue. But the game has changed. After almost two years of slashing at opponents with the race card it has been overused and overplayed. And the more it is used and falls on deaf ears, the more Americans speak out. That might be the only thing we have to grateful for coming from this group of outlaws in this administration.

What could this pos be thinking? These morons must know the AG position is not a lifetime appointment. Soon there will be adults controlling the Justice Dept once again, and the gunwalkers schemers and liars will be facing serious jeopardy to their freedom of movement.

No doubt the “civil rights” division will be facing some serious scrutiny over the repeated perjury committed as to that matter as well. I also suspect the scores of hard left socialist idealogues hired by Holder will be given the boot in short order.

1 posted on 10/04/2011 4:53:27 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
Scooter Liby went to Prison for less than this.
2 posted on 10/04/2011 4:55:30 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: IbJensen

Perjury, treason, kickbacks, accomplices to murder,
helping terrorists ....

THESE ARE JUST WORDS (which describe Obama, Holder
and the DOBJ)


3 posted on 10/04/2011 4:56:26 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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The rest of the article:

It will be very interesting to see if the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee has the ability or interest to imprison a sitting attorney general for contempt of Congress, which would in and of itself bring up a question of separation of powers, as it would require Congress having the U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia attempting to arrest and imprison a member of the executive branch. This is more than likely a moot point, however, as Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa expressed in a conference call with new media representatives that he would call for the appointment of an independent special prosecutor, who would be given the power to pursue criminal charges that carry a much longer prison sentence than the maximum one year that Congress may impose for contempt.

Another communication acquired by Attkisson and LaJeunesse shows a series of emails between two Department of Justice officials, Jason Weinstein, deputy assistant attorney general of the Criminal Division, and Deputy Chief of the National Gang Unit James Trusty.

The two men discuss Operation Fast and Furious in conjunction with another gun-walking operation based in Tucson (OFF was in Phoenix) and a third, unnamed gun-walking operation.

Trusty wrote to Weinstein:

Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the tucson case sooner than Fast and Furious (although this may be the difference between Nov and Dec). It’s not clear how much we’re invlvoed in the main F and F case, but we have Tucson and now a new, related case with [redacted] targets. It’s not going to be any big surprise that a bunch of US guns are being used in MX, so I’m not sure how much grief we get for “gun walking.” It may be more like, “Finally, they’re going after people who sent guns down there.”

The Trusty email confirms that senior Department of Justice officials were aware of not just Operation Fast and Furious, but that Operation Fast and Furious was a gun-walking operation; Trusty used that exact phrase. The news of the Tucson operation is the second confirmation of that gun-walking operation (Operation Wide Receiver), which was first revealed in a Friday afternoon document dump by the White House.

There is scant reference to the third operation, and it is unclear if this is another Arizona-based case or one of the Texas-based gun-walking operations that was also mentioned in passing in the O’Reilly email released Friday as “last year’s TX effort.”

In the flurry of documents released in the past several days, top officials of the Department of Justice are confirmed talking about at least three and as many as four gun-walking operations, dramatically raising the probability that gun-walking was known throughout the Departments of Justice, Homeland Security, and State, as well as the White House.

These documents seem to convincingly argue that U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder knowingly perjured himself in congressional testimony. As Holder knew, it is likely that Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, whose agents were also part of the task force, received similar weekly reports from either her direct reports or U.S. Attorney Dennis Burke, a close personal confidant who was her chief of staff while she was Arizona’s governor and who was appointed U.S. attorney through Napolitano’s influence. State should have been informed as they would have to waive what are clear violations of the Arms Export Control Act, but there is not any evidence yet that Secretary of State Clinton was involved in the operations.

It is starting to appear that Eric Holder might soon find himself thrown under the proverbial bus. It now seems only a matter of time before we discover who was driving a bus that seems destined for the United States Penitentiary in Leavenworth, Kansas.

4 posted on 10/04/2011 4:56:55 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen
he first heard about Operation Fast and Furious “over the last few weeks,” had actually been briefed on the program in a memo by the director of the National Drug Intelligence Center almost a year earlier

I have no doubt the Administration and its media lackies will start floating the defense that a "few weeks" is not "inaccurate to the point of perjury", when talking about a year's time.

5 posted on 10/04/2011 4:57:48 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Scooter Libby went to prison for no reason at all excepting that he was a Republican!


6 posted on 10/04/2011 4:57:48 AM PDT by IbJensen
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To: IbJensen

I’m still waiting to see when a Special Prosecutor will be named. It’s plain and obvious that the DOJ can not be trusted to conduct any investigation into this matter.


7 posted on 10/04/2011 5:00:23 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Scooter Libby served under a more ethical administration than the current regime. Actually, there has never been a more corrupt government in the United States, or possibly in the western world. Holder will walk, perhaps even move up when he chooses, but there is no way he’s finished under the corrupt thug in charge of what used to be our government. Obama is no doubt applauding and planning the cover up.


8 posted on 10/04/2011 5:01:38 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: IbJensen

That and his President abandoned him.


9 posted on 10/04/2011 5:05:27 AM PDT by DManA
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To: IbJensen
What could this pos be thinking? These morons must know the AG position is not a lifetime appointment. Soon there will be adults controlling the Justice Dept once again, and the gunwalkers schemers and liars will be facing serious jeopardy to their freedom of movement.

The scary thing is, your logic is absolutely sensible assuming it's business as usual. Holder and Obama's actions read more like those of a dictatortatorship. Maybe that's why they've acted so flagrantly.

10 posted on 10/04/2011 5:06:11 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: IbJensen

Obama will pardon Holder...


11 posted on 10/04/2011 5:06:13 AM PDT by ken5050 (Save the EARTH...it's the ONLY planet with CHOCOLATE!!!)
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To: Falcon4.0

This was the gang that sent Scooter to prison. He was guilty of nothing. The Obama administration has played fast and furious with the Constitution, treaties with neighbors, and the economies of the world. Their day of reckoning is at hand. It can not come soon enough. Please, please, please let Pelosi and the Clintons be thrown into the mix.


12 posted on 10/04/2011 5:06:30 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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To: Falcon4.0

This was the gang that sent Scooter to prison. He was guilty of nothing. The Obama administration has played fast and furious with the Constitution, treaties with neighbors, and the economies of the world. Their day of reckoning is at hand. It can not come soon enough. Please, please, please let Pelosi and the Clintons be thrown into the mix.


13 posted on 10/04/2011 5:06:30 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (O assumes the trappings of the presidency, not its mantle. He is not presidential.)
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To: IbJensen

He better put some ice on that.


14 posted on 10/04/2011 5:08:46 AM PDT by Delta 21 (Make your choice ! There are NO civilians.)
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To: Falcon4.0

Former AG John Mitchell went to jail also, as I recall.


15 posted on 10/04/2011 5:10:00 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Obamanomics)
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16 posted on 10/04/2011 5:12:36 AM PDT by MestaMachine (Farrago fatigans!)
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To: IbJensen
Obama will drag all this out and if he loses the 2012 election, there will be Presidential pardons all around. As far as I know, these pardons are absolute and unrevokable. If any Freeper attorneys want to weigh in, alternative views are solicited.
17 posted on 10/04/2011 5:13:43 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: IbJensen

Methinks Holder can look forward to many months of “testifying.”


18 posted on 10/04/2011 5:14:24 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: ken5050

Obama will pardon Holder...along with Blogo and Rezko but if O’bama is out of office before Holder is convicted Holder may have to cut some sort of deal that will “finger” others to save his arse.


19 posted on 10/04/2011 5:17:57 AM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: Howie66
Considering the level of stupidity on display at ATF, the agency might want to consider an insanity defense.

In a sane world, Congress would impeach at least the Department heads involved and depending on his involvement take impeachment action against the President himself. Instead, he's running for re-election.

The piss-stream media ignores the gangster government's corruption on a daily basis now. Sad real sad. Nothing to see here, folks, just move along. Ignore the dead bodies.

Holder2w
Your tax dollars at work under the Obama administration... It's fully paid for.

Have another muffin Eric.

20 posted on 10/04/2011 5:22:52 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: IbJensen
"...the lubricious Al Sharpton..."

LOL! Great word to describe the "reverend" Al!

21 posted on 10/04/2011 5:23:55 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: ken5050

But will President Jim DeMint pardon Obozo?


22 posted on 10/04/2011 5:24:55 AM PDT by IbJensen
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23 posted on 10/04/2011 5:25:33 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Pollster1

I think Obama may toss Holder to protect himself. Obama needs this to go away. Otherwise he’s in for a sh!tstorm while he’s campaigning.


24 posted on 10/04/2011 5:29:18 AM PDT by meatloaf (It's time to push back against out of control government.)
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To: IbJensen

Nothing will happen with Holder, Most of America is too wrapped up in their TV reality shows to care, to fat, stuupid and the young adults are indoctrinated the the “government” is good and harmless like a grandmother.... Obunghole and Holder will just carry on.


25 posted on 10/04/2011 5:30:31 AM PDT by Article10 (Roger That)
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26 posted on 10/04/2011 5:31:12 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Howie66
Considering the level of stupidity on display at ATF, the agency might want to consider an insanity defense.

In a sane world, Congress would impeach at least the Department heads involved and depending on his involvement take impeachment action against the President himself. Instead, he's running for re-election.

The piss-stream media ignores the gangster government's corruption on a daily basis now. Sad real sad. Nothing to see here, folks, just move along. Ignore the dead bodies.

Holder2w
Your tax dollars at work under the Obama administration... It's fully paid for.

Have another muffin Eric.

27 posted on 10/04/2011 5:32:48 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: Howie66

You’ll be waiting a long time. The special prosecutor law has expired and it’s unlikely that Obamugabe will appoint one of his own free will. They know most people have not heard of this and don’t really care. As long as Holder, what an apropos name, holds the reigns at DOJ, Zeroboy is safe, and he knows it......................


28 posted on 10/04/2011 5:34:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (We cannot defeat an enemy that the president and hence his administration cannot name.......)
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To: DManA

W left scooter to hang. He also left Compeon and Ramos to hang. karl Rove thought these men were political pawns and w listened.


29 posted on 10/04/2011 5:35:12 AM PDT by mirkwood (obama-the fresh prince of bill ayers (attackwatch))
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To: WellyP

The Zero can ‘pardon’ Holder at any time. Even now. In secret......................


30 posted on 10/04/2011 5:37:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (We cannot defeat an enemy that the president and hence his administration cannot name.......)
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To: Red Badger

Alas, I know that you are correct, RB.


31 posted on 10/04/2011 5:37:51 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: mirkwood

W could have done more for Scooter, f’sure.


32 posted on 10/04/2011 5:38:11 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Truth29

It is absolute and not revokable so your are correct, it is nice to be king by the way.

If recollection serves me well, John Mitchell then AG went to jail during the Nixon coverup matter. So, Holder’s going to a facility may be possible.

It still aggravates me to no end that Bush allowed Scotter Libby to go to jail. That and his insane immigration policy is not forgivable.


33 posted on 10/04/2011 5:39:50 AM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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34 posted on 10/04/2011 5:43:45 AM PDT by bcsco (Take a Cain - and cure the Pain!)
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To: IbJensen

Holder is second in disgrace only to Obama for the damage he’s done to the USA and race relations. History will NOT remember him favorably.


35 posted on 10/04/2011 5:46:09 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Falcon4.0

Scooter Libby is white. Governing while black is one of the least accountable places in thr US.


36 posted on 10/04/2011 5:49:52 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: ken5050
“Obama will pardon Holder...”

Yep, but probably not before the election, so Issa needs to move so that this dirt bag spends some time in the slamer.

37 posted on 10/04/2011 5:52:04 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: IbJensen

Drudge just put it up. Should get more traction now.


38 posted on 10/04/2011 5:54:45 AM PDT by jersey117
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Good compilation, bcsco !


39 posted on 10/04/2011 6:07:18 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: BobP

Does that bullet flying through the shoe still have its cartridge case attached?


40 posted on 10/04/2011 6:13:24 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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Thanks!


41 posted on 10/04/2011 6:16:28 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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Now that Drudge has put it up maybe it will get more traction. I’ve noticed Rush lately seems to be formatting his show by reading us the Drudge Report...


42 posted on 10/04/2011 6:16:38 AM PDT by Dansong
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To: IbJensen

Okay, who is going to indict Holder and his underlings for murder?


43 posted on 10/04/2011 6:17:00 AM PDT by drypowder
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Soon there will be adults controlling the Justice Dept once again, and the gunwalkers schemers and liars will be facing serious jeopardy to their freedom of movement.

I hope you're right and I'm wrong.

The communists own the justice department. Sad, but I believe it to be true. The defense they (WH, MSM, and justice) will offer is that this is "partisan politics at its worst". The media will run with it and talk about the divisive nature of politics today and how did it ever get this bad.

Holder will write a book in 2013 about what a hero he is.
44 posted on 10/04/2011 6:19:10 AM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: IbJensen

I suspect that Obama’s reaction will be to double-down and try to defend Holder. This will only suck him further down the whirlpool.


45 posted on 10/04/2011 6:41:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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and a third, unnamed gun-walking operation.

Honduras out of Florida?

46 posted on 10/04/2011 7:29:12 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Falcon4.0

“Scooter Liby went to Prison for less than this.”

MMMM And was Scooter Libby a racist democrat? LOL Holder will NEVER face any charges for perjury or any other crimes committed against the State.


47 posted on 10/04/2011 7:38:08 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: IbJensen

Now that Holder and Obama are both being found out, they become very, very dangerous because they have nothing left to lose. The only thing that will keep their hind ends out of jail for life at this point is for the entire system of laws to be done away with before anybody honest can get in and enforce the laws these jerks have been breaking all along.

I don’t think it’s an accident that we’ve got what the participants claim is the beginnings of a communist revolution being started in big cities across the country right now, and that the media is billing it as a grassroots fire - like “Prairie Fire”, eh? Recently when Hoffa and Biden both used violent rhetoric within a couple days of each other - and when directly asked about it every democrat refused to condemn the rhetoric - I wondered whether that was a signal from the Soros mafia that Obama had run out of time with the covert takeover of law enforcement and it was time to begin the communist revolution in earnest.


48 posted on 10/04/2011 8:22:09 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: IbJensen
Looks like we’ll be able to unseal the tucson case sooner than Fast and Furious (although this may be the difference between Nov and Dec). It’s not clear how much we’re invlvoed in the main F and F case, but we have Tucson and now a new, related case with [redacted] targets. It’s not going to be any big surprise that a bunch of US guns are being used in MX, so I’m not sure how much grief we get for “gun walking.” It may be more like, “Finally, they’re going after people who sent guns down there.”

This also confirms that the main goal of Fast and Furious was to score political points, not to engage in actual law enforcement activity.

49 posted on 10/04/2011 8:22:38 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: IbJensen

Needs to be convicted.


50 posted on 10/04/2011 8:23:45 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 - 35)
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