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House Republicans to Request Special Counsel to Probe Holder on 'Fast and Furious'
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Posted on 10/04/2011 9:49:20 AM PDT by sunmars

EXCLUSIVE: House Republicans are going to call for a special counsel to determine whether Attorney General Holder perjured himself during his testimony to the House Judiciary Committee on Operation Fast and Furious, Fox News has learned.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, is sending a letter to President Obama arguing that Holder cannot investigate himself and will request a probe by a special counsel.

The question is whether Holder committed perjury during a Judiciary Committee hearing in May. At the time, Holder indicated he was not familiar with with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives program known as Fast and Furious.

However, a newly discovered memo dated July 2010 shows Michael Walther, director of the National Drug Intelligence Center, told Holder that straw buyers in the Fast and Furious operation "are responsible for the purchase of 1,500 firearms that were then supplied to the Mexican drug trafficking cartels."

In response to the Monday release of that and other documents, the Justice Department said Holder was confused by the question, and that he was answering about when he first learned of the "troubling tactics" of the program, not the name of it.

But House Oversight and Government Reform Committee Chairman Darrell Issa, R-Calif., told Fox News on Tuesday morning that Holder saying he didn't understand the question rather than he didn't know of the program is not a successful defense to perjury.

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To: cblue55

Dear Mr. Issa:

You are doing good work,but you are not cutting off the head of this snake.

This came right out of the White House.

200 people and at least One US Agent dead because of Barrack Hussein Obama and his scheme to rid America of guns..

61 posted on 10/04/2011 10:13:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: sunmars

Beats having a member of the regime investigating the regime.

62 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:09 AM PDT by cake_crumb (Obama: the Unholy Won.)
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To: bigbob

Issa’s investigations build the case for the prosecutor, and I would say he is doing a damned fine job of it based on the results. What do you think he should do, just jump on the first piece of evidence and let it go from there?

Not the right way to get the big fish, take them down from the bottom up, you will always get the whole school of rotten fish that way

63 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:37 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; LucyT; Fred Nerks

Just-in-case-FYI-warning Ping (also, post 49)

“(BTW, do not go to I got the FakeAlert trojan from there yesterday and it was a bear to clean.)”

Thanks for warning.

64 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:38 AM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: sunmars

The first candidate to make a pledge to indict Holder and Geithner gets my vote and I don’t care if he/she has a Muslim nanny, donates to Planned Parenthood and likes Obamacare.

65 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:43 AM PDT by anton
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To: tgusa
Getting sacked should be the least of Holder’s worries.

Right, Vince Foster got whacked.

66 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:47 AM PDT by immadashell
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To: SeaHawkFan

But couldn’t having a SP on the case, also bring charges against others ( other than Holder )or could congress do that as well ?

Could you kindly explain the process of Congress impeaching a sitting AG or point me out to a link to read ? I’m not familiar with the process.


67 posted on 10/04/2011 10:14:52 AM PDT by simplesimon (Thomas Paine is weeping. Common sense is gone.)
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To: sunmars

Why is “Fast and Furious” called gun running enforcement when it is simply gun running? Where was the enforcement?

69 posted on 10/04/2011 10:17:04 AM PDT by pallis
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To: little jeremiah; COBOL2Java; sunmars; bcsco; RushIsMyTeddyBear; MestaMachine; dead; Doogle; ...
Who gets to pick the special counsel, and is that the same thing as a special prosecutor?

Uh oh. It wouldn't be this guy would it?

The Office of Special Counsel in the United States Department of Justice replaced the former Office of the Independent Counsel in 1999. It is charged with investigating alleged misconduct in the federal government's executive branch. The current Special Counsel is Patrick Fitzgerald, who was appointed in 2003 by Deputy Attorney General James B. Comey.

70 posted on 10/04/2011 10:18:19 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: sunmars

Here is an idea:

We appoint a Special Prosecutor
Mexico appoints a Special Prosecutor

They can work together and can have trials in either country.

71 posted on 10/04/2011 10:18:38 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (FReepers assemble into a circular firing squad while Romney gets coronated.)
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To: sunmars

Eating popcorn right now. Go find a Boy Scout or Cub Scout and lay in a supply.

72 posted on 10/04/2011 10:19:05 AM PDT by cyclotic (Boy Scouts-Developing Leaders in a World of Followers.)
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To: immadashell
If it is a rogue, not only should the rogue be fired but also the person who hired the rogue.

It's been how many years now and we STILL don't know who hired Craig Livingstone!

73 posted on 10/04/2011 10:19:44 AM PDT by Roccus (Obama & Holder LLP, Procurers of fine arms to the most discerning drug lords (202) 456-1414)
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To: bcsco

State-run media’s response - YAWN . . . . . . . . .YAWN . . . . . . . YAWN . . . . .

74 posted on 10/04/2011 10:20:26 AM PDT by Mr. Wright (i)
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To: Slambat
It is the Chicago way on a larger scale,

from link

..history of organized crime in Chicago by Robert Lombardo, a sociology professor and former Chicago and Cook County police officer.

Its persistence was documented in Sept. 7, 2006 by the Chicago Sun-Times, which reported that at least 79 current or former Illinois, Chicago or Cook County elected officials had been found guilty of a crime by judges, juries or their own pleas since 1972.

The paper provided this tally of the tarnished: three governors, two other state officials, 15 state legislators, two congressmen, one mayor, three other city officials, 27 aldermen, 19 Cook County judges and seven other Cook County officials.

75 posted on 10/04/2011 10:21:05 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: sunmars

Lead story on FOX Radio news at the top of the hour...almost passed out from shock when I heard it...

76 posted on 10/04/2011 10:22:26 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the
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To: Mr. Wright

MSM has been slow, but is picking up some steam. Let’s see just how far this expands.

77 posted on 10/04/2011 10:22:26 AM PDT by bcsco (A vote for Cain will cure the Pain!)
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To: SeaHawkFan
You're right.
Congresscritters are forever appointing committees to do the work they shrug off.
78 posted on 10/04/2011 10:22:35 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: sunmars

So we have to ask Obama for a special prosecutor to investigate Holder? Um ... okay. Well, there goes that. The House is going to have impeach him.

79 posted on 10/04/2011 10:23:15 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: sunmars
Wonder if barry will allow a special prosecutor...
80 posted on 10/04/2011 10:23:27 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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