Skip to comments.Cain Gets Slammed for Telling Perry N-Word Not Cool in Modern World
Posted on 10/04/2011 10:44:12 AM PDT by Kaslin
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Yes Cain did. He said it to Chris Wallace. He played the race card, which was not needed.
Perry was factual. Perry did not own the property, and only paid to hunt there. In fact, he has not been there for 4 years. Perry did not paint the word on the rock, it was painted and turned over 30 years ago. This is a hit piece by the WP and Townhall is spreading more incorrect information.
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.
The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.
This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."
Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.
Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.
2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'
Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'
August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:
(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)
1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,
"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."
We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.
According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.
Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:
"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.
The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."
(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).
When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:
"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."
When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:
"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."
(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)
Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.
I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.
At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parentson the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.
One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.
(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)
The term was once widely used for all sorts of things, including products such as soap and chewing tobacco, but most often for geographic features such as hills and rocks and geological objects (usually geodes). In the U.S., more than a hundred "Niggerheads" and other place names now considered racially offensive were changed in 1962 by the U.S. Board on Geographic Names, but many local names remained unchanged.
Wait'll Cain finds out about the MORMON paST!
Temple Recommend Questions:
1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?
2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?
3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?
4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?
5 Do you live the law of chastity?
6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?
7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?
9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?
10 Are you a full-tithe payer?
11 Do your keep the Word of Wisdom?
12 Do you have financial or other oblgations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?
13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:
Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?
14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?
15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?
Well, I would, but it's now gone.
But, witnesses can testify that THEY saw it!
FR must be RACIST because it ALLOWED it to be posted: even for an INSTANT!!
And, I must be racist because I'm a long time FR poster.
Woe is me!!!
WHO will take me series now???
I think you’ve clarified this thread!
Paint your trees!!
Really? Do you really want to talk about race? Or are you suggesting in a Holder like manner to talk about race?
Let's talk about the Black Caucus, the NAACP, The Black Panthers, Rev Wright, Obama, Affirmative Action, set asides, SAT's, Flash Mobs, double standards, 70%+ unwed mothers, crime, black ethnocentrism and a list a mile long.
So let's talk!
What do you mean "become" known as the party of hate? We're already known as the party of hate. Didn't you get the memo?
Oh, and wasn't it blacks, themselves, who just called Herman Cain a racist a few days ago because he dared suggest that 90% of blacks have been brainwashed by Liberals?
We're just tired of the race card being played. Pure and simple. You probably remember how we reacted when Perry said we were heartless for not supporting his policy of giving illegals in-state tuition rates and also suggesting we were afraid of people with different sounding names. His commanding lead disappeared faster than Murphy Brown's baby.
We despise racism and the playing of the race card no matter who engages in it and we treat those who do the same regardless of their skin color.
In other words, we are consistent.
I just listened to that Cain interveiw, and, frankly, I do NOT see what the uproar is all about.
When, in the voting booth, if someone can truthfully say that THEY have not uttered things considered to be ‘insensitive’...
Hardly ANYONE considers their own dog to be ugly.
Incredible, illogical stretch.
Good luck with finding the candidate who never says anything you don't like. (I guess you'll be staying home and letting Obama win again, eh?)
I'll say the same thing to you as I have to others....
If you give up on Cain for this perceived error, then there are no candidates who will satisfy you.
Cain was raised in a segregated, racist south and never uses his race as any kind of 'card.'
Anyone who is dropping Cain for this NON-offense isn't thinking clearly.
I fully understand there is no perfect candidate and undoing the damage that the Obama Administration has done to our great country is the first priority.
However I would rather see candidates who are honest and principled and who will stand up to the lies and false accusations that are so common in the MSM. Politicians who try to please the MSM by repeating politically correct talking points and refuse to take principled stands against obvious lies don't deserve our support.
You really haven’t a clue, although you could easily get one if you tried using that great new invention called “posting history.” I had not thrown all of my support behind ANY candidate yet before this mess, but I did like Cain and Perry—and possibly Palin if she ever decides. I’ve said so in public posts. How dare you call me a liar! Ok, not in so many words, but bad enough. I’m starting to think you’re just here to stir up trouble, so maybe I’ll let you stir elsewhere.
Indeed, and I experienced a bit of that myself some years ago. A Mormon lady we knew used to always put on her little delicate white gloves if she knew she was going to have to shake hands with people of other races.
Did you even read what I said? I said the name was unfortunate, but I can’t control what a flower was called 100 years ago. As I said elsewhere, the flower was also called “Golden Jerusalem” in the Middle Ages (too Catholic or Jewish?) and is also known as “Black-eyed Susan” (too sexist?). The botanical name is Rudbeckia hirta.
What I find ridiculous is that the media and the DNC spokespeople act like Gov. Perry named the place himself.
Thans...I forgot what I wrote now...hehe
I’m not sure what you are responding to. My comment about Perry’s statement being foolish had to do with his “heartless” comment regarding the “Dream Act”. The WaPo story, however, is purely a smear.
Dislike him if you will, but your conclusions based on this interview, outside of the context of everything else he has ever said and done, are way off the mark.
Again......good luck with finding someone who never says anything you don't like. And good luck with defining 'principled' as someone who never says anything that bothers you.
As for calling you a liar......are you kidding me?? I never did anything even close to that. I haven't thought for even one moment that you weren't telling the truth. Yikes.
My final post to you will be the same as my others......if you dimiss Herman Cain based on the emotional reaction you're having to this interview and ignoring every other fact about the man, then go for it.
If you liked Cain before, and don't like him now, then your information was lacking both before and now, and I continue to urge you to do your homework.
I'm not here to 'cause trouble.' I'm here to help people think about what they're saying and stop reacting viscerally to incomplete information.
Herman Cain is a viable candidate, a strong conservative, a NON 'race-baiter,' intelligent, filled with ideas, and an all around great guy from everything I've seen and heard.
Conservatives are supposed to be thinkers, but unfortunately, as further evidenced by this thread, a lot just feel and react. That's exactly what's happening here, and the left loves it.
“1. Herman Cain is honest and principled
2. Herman Cain is most certainly NOT a ‘politician’ who is trying to please the MSM.”
He certainly didn’t act like it.
But I understand your larger point, the way he handled this situation was unprincipled but it was just one incident. We should not judge a person on just one event. We should look at their complete record.
I've listened to Cain a lot, and have been extremely impressed with the complete absence of any use of the race card in any situation.
This one interview at best (or worst), is completely antithetical to the entire breadth and scope of his life.
Cain played the race card, and I for one am sick to death of it. He showed what he’s about, a man who doesn’t think well on his feet, someone who will allow the media *misinterpret* what he says (he says), and jumps the gun and makes inflammatory charges when he doesn’t have the facts. Sounds like someone we already have in office and if you can overlook these flaws, more power to you, I can’t.
It says a lot more about you than it does about Herman Cain........and none of it is good.
Oh........and good luck finding that 'flawless' person you're demanding. At least we know that it's not going to be you....
Keep the stuff about Cain, his character and leadership, and delete the stuff about you. It was unnecessary and wrong.
I disagree with your dismissing Cain because he is, in your view, 'flawed.' (The Fall took care of that for all of us). I think it's a big mistake to throw a good candidate over the cliff for something that doesn't match up with the entire rest of his life. Context is helpful in making character assessments, and I think you jumped way too soon on this one.