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Fat tax in Denmark: Why they have it; could it happen in U.S.? (Yes, a FAT, not flat tax)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 10/04/2011 | Karen Kaplan

Posted on 10/04/2011 1:37:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Food Police have stormed Denmark, where it is now a little more expensive to eat fattening food.

The country’s so-called “fat tax” went into effect on Saturday. The tax rate is 16 Danish kroner per kilogram of saturated fat in a food – in terms Americans can understand, that’s about $6.27 per pound of saturated fat – and it kicks in when the saturated fat content of a food item exceeds 2.3%.

The complex formula takes into account the amount of fat used to produce a particular food, not the amount that’s in the final product, according to Ole Linnet Juul, food director at Denmark’s Confederation of Industries. He calculated that the tax adds 12 cents to a bag of chips, 39 cents to a small package of butter and 40 cents to the price of a hamburger.

If this seems like a radical move, consider that Denmark has already banned the use of trans fats, which many doctors say is the worst kind because it raises bad cholesterol and lowers good cholesterol at the same time. Danes also pay sin taxes on sugary items like soda and candy. But the fat tax is believed to be the first of its kind in the world, Linnet Juul told the Associated Press.

The law was passed by a government the Associated Press describes as “conservative.” And while the fat tax may be a first, it may soon be joined by similar taxes in Finland and Romania.

In the United States, advocates of sin taxes for unhealthy foods don’t seem to be getting close to implementing a soda tax on sugar-sweetened beverages despite years of lobbying.

(Excerpt) Read more at articles.latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: denmark; fattax

1 posted on 10/04/2011 1:37:10 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

before too long there will also be a FAT32 tax..


2 posted on 10/04/2011 1:38:52 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: SeekAndFind

The poor will be hit the hardest!

We will just have to give them an extra on the EBT cards¿?


3 posted on 10/04/2011 1:42:17 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (The best is the enemy of the good!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I guess we won’t have to look for Michael Moore in Denmark.


4 posted on 10/04/2011 1:43:56 PM PDT by crosshairs (The U.S. has sown to the winds and now its going to reap the whirlwind.)
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To: RitchieAprile
When I lived in Denmark I could not believe that folks actually ate lard sandwiches.

That said, I did not see many fat Danes. They bicycled everywhere so that may have had something to do with it.

Dunno why they have this fat tax. I admire a lot about Denmark, but they do have a nanny state - it's a nice nanny, however.

5 posted on 10/04/2011 1:45:45 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ugly socialism and fascism. But they tolerate it.


6 posted on 10/04/2011 1:47:15 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: SeekAndFind

Truly stupid.


7 posted on 10/04/2011 1:48:51 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

See? This is what taxes are for! And you thought taxes were for revenue! Silly!


8 posted on 10/04/2011 1:51:34 PM PDT by Da Bilge Troll (Defeatism is not a winning strategy!)
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To: Martin Tell

When my parents’ doctor harshly criticized the amount of fat in their diets, they sweetly reminded him that they were in their nineties, not overweight, and likely to outlive him. They did.


9 posted on 10/04/2011 1:53:39 PM PDT by July4 (Remember the price paid for your freedom.)
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To: SeekAndFind

They can’t tax the sugar in Cokes (or pop, or soda, depending on where you are from) because pop is made with corn sweetener.


10 posted on 10/04/2011 2:14:19 PM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Martin Tell

Yeah, when I was in Denmark I saw one fat Dane—seriously, that was it.

Healthy people, beautiful dames, intrusive, bureaucratic socialist gov’t.


11 posted on 10/04/2011 2:23:27 PM PDT by cooperj
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To: RitchieAprile
before too long there will also be a FAT32 tax..

Or more likely a tax on fat people!

12 posted on 10/04/2011 2:30:28 PM PDT by Voltage
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To: Martin Tell; All

you post “When I lived in Denmark I could not believe that folks actually ate lard sandwiches.

That said, I did not see many fat Danes.”

(Despot’s Creed - throughout history. “He who controls the food, controls the people.” Remember and beware.

I won’t buy pork chops without the bone AND fat. I order my roast beef ahead with instructions NOT to trim the fat off.

I render my own lard for cooking, from organic lard.

I make ghee from organic butter (it takes out the milk solids and renders it healthier - not to mention keeps from going rancid much longer. (It’s also a great way to store butter. Put in canning jars - it can last for months.)

The fat-free craze that started a couple decades ago has proven to be unhealthy. We need fat in our diet. It’s just in knowing WHICH fats.

For cooking, I use grape seed oil, lard and coconut oils - and ghee. They all have a higher burn point than olive oil, do not overpower taste and do not go rancid as fast as olive oil. They also aren’t as likely to be “GMO’d” as is corn oil, soybean oil, canola (rape seed) oil, etc.

And, yes, lard is healthy for you. (if you use organic, fat back, and not use the store-bought HYDROGENATED lard. It’s the hydrogenation process that turns into TRANS fat.)

Do we need fat?

http://www.eatingdisordersonline.com/nutritional/fats.php

A couple links on lard.

http://www.foodandwine.com/articles/lard-the-new-health-food

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2008/03/real-food-iv-lard.html

WARNING: (just how outrageous will it get?

Just when the need for fats and the dangers of the “fat free” diets are being realized, we have the ‘fat police’ - like Lard-a*S Madam O in the WH - determined to dictate what we shall and shall not be able to eat. (And, BTW, can someone tell me what her training is in there matters?).

I suspicion that if someone were to able to dig out what her true motivations are, they might lead to some playing footsie with the big boys - like Monsanto and other chemical outfits that are hell bent on controlling food production/consumption and precious little to do with healthy foods. The Organic, farm raised meat, milk, eggs and vegetables are gaining a real niche in the market. These big boys, with the help of their henchmen in the gov’t, are doing all they can to shut them down. (Ex: Swat teams raiding dairy farms and dumping raw milk, fining and threatening the farm. But that’s just the beginning.

How about this judge’s recent ruling? “”no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to own and use a dairy cow or a dairy herd;

“no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to consume the milk from their own cow;”

And in a kind of exclamation point, he added this to his list of no-nos: “no, Plaintiffs do not have a fundamental right to produce and consume the foods of their choice...”

a link to that -
http://www.thecompletepatient.com/journal/2011/9/15/wi-judge-to-zinniker-ftcldf-no-fundamental-right-to-own-a-co.html

Remember the Despot’s Creed.


13 posted on 10/04/2011 2:47:37 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: maine-iac7
Thanks for the info and links.

Just last week I bought a couple of pounds of lard from my natural meat connection. And I was wondering what was the best way to use it, so your info is timely and helpful!

14 posted on 10/04/2011 2:50:54 PM PDT by Martin Tell (ask for the ancient paths, ask where the good way is, and walk in it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stay home and make your own food. Burgers, fries, hot dogs, oh and yes, GRAVY on the fries. :) Yummmmmmmm


15 posted on 10/04/2011 3:10:42 PM PDT by cubreporter (Rush Limbaugh... where would our country be without this brilliant man?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Bad economics and even worse science.

Fat doesn't make you fat. They should tax flour and sugar (the true culprits of obesity) if their goal is as stated. Not that I advocate such a thing.

16 posted on 10/04/2011 3:23:33 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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To: Martin Tell
I bought a couple of pounds of lard

I recently bought a pound of lard and started using it in place of vegetable oil. The taste is amazing! And, as mentioned in my previous post, I don't think animal fat causes us to become fat.

Eliminate flour and sugar from your diet and eat all you want of the rest. That's been my experience anyway and my cholesterol levels never move.

17 posted on 10/04/2011 3:27:29 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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To: maine-iac7
I found out about leaf lard here on FR a few months ago. Very interesting information and it looks like they're in stock again. (they were sold out last spring when I first found the site)
18 posted on 10/04/2011 3:27:48 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: cubreporter
oh and yes, GRAVY on the fries. :) Yummmmmmmm

LOL.

In Nova Scotia, even Mac Donald's serves gravy on their fries ;o)

19 posted on 10/04/2011 4:48:14 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: TigersEye

I got some leaf lard from my fat back supplier - but I really didn’t like it. I have gone back to the fat back - and I don’t render it on the stove - takes too much tending, stirring to keep from scorching.

Instead, I put it in the oven, in a roasting pan, at 225 degrees and smash it down now and then with a potato ricer. I find this much easier. Takes an hour or more.... I also take the hide off first, don’t care for ‘cracklings, and this make the smashing and straining easier.


20 posted on 10/04/2011 4:55:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: maine-iac7

Thanks! I haven’t gotten any leaf lard yet. I’ll have to do some searching and see if I can get fat back around here. Did the leaf lard just not taste right or was it a matter of effecting your baked goods negatively?


21 posted on 10/04/2011 6:59:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Actually, the leaf lard was just so ‘ugly’ to look at and handle and the little pieces of meat that would have have to be cut out were all through it. That would have been difficult.

I never even used it - just went back to the nice clean fat back - and that lard is great, so I’m happy with it.

One of my jars of lard got mold on the top - I boil my jars, lids and everything, but must have messed up with one.

I’m wondering if I could pour wax over the top of them before putting the lids on - ans maybe same with my ghee jars - like with jams?

I may try it.


22 posted on 10/04/2011 7:15:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: maine-iac7
Wax on top is a possible solution but the fat might make it hard to seal. Maybe it could or should be canned like meat for long term storage? I don't know.

I thought what that company is selling would be strained. Do you strain your lard after rendering it?

23 posted on 10/04/2011 7:25:59 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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