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We “Do Not Consider Perry a Factor… We Know Who it is Who Will be Our Nominee”
Race 4 2012 ^ | October 4, 2011 | Matt Coulter

Posted on 10/05/2011 1:03:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Those words were spoken today by Georgette Mosbacher, RNC Finance Co-Chair and huge GOP fundraiser, after Chris Christie’s announcement. The “we” is all the big bundlers, fundraisers, and money folks who have been sitting on the sidelines waiting for the field to be set — and that quote represents the coalescing around Mitt Romney that is expected to happen rather quickly now. Mosbacher went on to say:

“I think tomorrow, we’ll be contacting one another and probably put something together with Romney… And I would say that the race is now Romney and Obama. Quite frankly, the enthusiasm wasn’t there at the outset. He’s less conservative than a lot of us would like. However, our first and foremost goal is to defeat Obama. And we do believe Romney, in terms of independents, will be a strong candidate. We will coalesce behind him now… the time has come to get behind him… Tomorrow I’ll be on the phone all day. Quite frankly, it’ll be easier, because now we know who it is who will be our nominee. So we will pull our Rolodexes out and get to work.”

Fellow bundler and sideline-sitter John Catsimatidis added, “I’m going to go with Mitt Romney. I don’t think Perry has it in him to do it. He’s a lot better than Sarah Palin, but not a lot lot better.”

Ouch.

In related news, Romney also scored another major fundraiser from the Draft Christie movement: Ken Langone. Langone is the founder of Home Depot and is described as a “titan” in the political money scene. He backed Rudy Giuliani in 2008, helping Giuliani out raise the other candidates. There is evidence that a great deal of the money that had sat on the sidelines so far in this race will now fall into Romney’s coffers.

Rick Perry, for his part, got the endorsement of another Draft Christie member: Gary Kirke, a west Iowa investor and casino owner who had also been sitting on the sidelines until this afternoon.


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1 posted on 10/05/2011 1:03:31 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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The nominee?

2 posted on 10/05/2011 1:05:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

RINO alert.


3 posted on 10/05/2011 1:05:51 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m getting visions of Bob Dole all over again....same people same money...........not good


4 posted on 10/05/2011 1:09:59 AM PDT by BubbaJunebug
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The nominee?

Of course. It's his turn. Plus he has good hair.

5 posted on 10/05/2011 1:10:08 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The sorry part is that unless Palin gets in and runs a very good campaign, they’re right—it will be Mitt.


6 posted on 10/05/2011 1:10:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The nominee?

More than likely and now the MSM will try and destroy Cain.

7 posted on 10/05/2011 1:10:41 AM PDT by Doofer ("If debt is the problem, how is more debt the solution"?)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

I pray that Palin is reading this at this moment.


8 posted on 10/05/2011 1:11:09 AM PDT by jobim
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So the GOP does not want to this one? Romney excites about as much an old sock.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 1:11:12 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: All; shield

10 posted on 10/05/2011 1:12:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not if individual conservatives are willing to give a hundred or to to Perry or Cain and help them run like hell.


11 posted on 10/05/2011 1:12:46 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: 9YearLurker
The sorry part is that unless Palin gets in and runs a very good campaign, they’re right—it will be Mitt.

This might be a good time to think about who the Left is trying so hard to take out -- any way that they can. The one that they fear the most -- as Rush would say.

12 posted on 10/05/2011 1:14:36 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Annointed One......bow down and worship??????


13 posted on 10/05/2011 1:14:49 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

big shot Democrats said the same thing about Hillary in 2008


14 posted on 10/05/2011 1:16:18 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If Romney is the nominee, then I don’t bother going to the polls to vote. 100 mph or 75 mph, both are going in the same direction.


15 posted on 10/05/2011 1:16:27 AM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good-Pope Leo XIII)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
However, our first and foremost goal is to defeat Obama.

Wrong. The goal is to defeat the nominee and Obama may not necessarily be the nominee.

16 posted on 10/05/2011 1:16:36 AM PDT by csense
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Mosbachers of course have been problematic Tesxas-New York RINOs in the GOP for a long time. Her deceased husband was on the Ford team against Reagan. It was for his likes that Reagan took Poppy onto his ticket.


17 posted on 10/05/2011 1:16:41 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would have to consider not voting if GOP settles for Romney. Romney is not better than Bush and looks where that took the country.


18 posted on 10/05/2011 1:17:18 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 - 35)
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To: Jonty30

The problem is that Cain, Perry, Gingrich and Santorum are all wittingly or unwittingly playing the role of conservative vote dividers to enable a Romney victory.

My first choice remains the only authentic outsider candidate with the strongest credentials.


19 posted on 10/05/2011 1:17:18 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Jonty30

The problem is that Cain, Perry, Gingrich and Santorum are all wittingly or unwittingly playing the role of conservative vote dividers to enable a Romney victory.

My first choice remains the only authentic outsider candidate with the strongest credentials.


20 posted on 10/05/2011 1:17:40 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I would have to consider not voting if GOP settles for Romney. Romney is no better than Bush and looks where that took the country.


21 posted on 10/05/2011 1:17:52 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 - 35)
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To: Jonty30

“Not if individual conservatives are willing to give a hundred or to to Perry or Cain and help them run like hell.”

Here’s the problem. We don’t know if it’s going to be Perry, Cain or even a surprise last minute appearance by Palin. They however do know they can count one just one guy, Romney.


22 posted on 10/05/2011 1:19:01 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Nextrush

But you have to support whom it is, not whom you’d like it to be.

And you try to make it the best of what you have, in this case, for me at least, Perry or Cain.


23 posted on 10/05/2011 1:21:09 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

John Catsimatidis made his money with a chain of the grubbiest, dirtiest, most unappealing grocery stores in NYC.


24 posted on 10/05/2011 1:21:44 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jonty30

Gov. Perry has appeal to so many of the groups the Left has divided us into, that he's the one that the Democrats fear the most.

The lawyers and unions have painted a big bulls eye on his back and are raising money like nobody's business to take him out (and the MSM is do their damnedest to assist).

The Left knows they're going to need every dime to get Obama 4 more years and if Perry gets in they're going to have to fight like hell [$$$$$$] to win. And that will take money away from the rest of the Democrat field. They'll be defending states and seats that normally would be safe.

If this "racist rock" crap can be thrown in their face, as it should be by honest Americans, future race-baiting (and you know it is coming -- and it is being tied to the Tea Party) will not have the punch that they hope it will have.

25 posted on 10/05/2011 1:22:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jonty30

Romney would chew up and spit out Perry or Cain without the least bit of trouble. The only one who has the capability to stop him is Palin—and I expect she’ll be in the race soon enough.

She has timed it perfectly despite all the media and Establishment’s pressure to get in earlier.


26 posted on 10/05/2011 1:23:36 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

50x the left and GOP Establishment’s taking out energy has been expended on Palin over Perry. You’re right, she has rightly been their biggest concern for the past three years.


27 posted on 10/05/2011 1:26:15 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker

And what if she doesn’t?


28 posted on 10/05/2011 1:29:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: MadJack

They’d rather it be Obama for another four years, then Jeb or some other RINO in 2016, over an actual reformer who would break their cushy crony capitalist, big government deals and lifestyle.

They almost consider it a gentleman’s agreement that the presidency be traded back and forth between parties every eight years, though of course the street-fighter Democrats don’t see it that way.


29 posted on 10/05/2011 1:29:16 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Jonty30

That’s the thing these Party hacks don’t consider. Despite Obama’s ‘billion’ dollar war chest, even the MSM thinks he’s gonna lose. WHY??? Because despite all those cubic dollar Ad buys/MSM propaganda broadcasts, no one is buying the BS. Their value in the face of economic/social/electoral reality is greatly diminished.

Mittens/GOP establishment has the same ‘exact’ issue without nearly the cash of Obama. As soon as they stop polling the beltway (due to it not matching the ‘man on the street’ attitudes), we are going to see a very different picture emerge. 2012 is going to be 2010 on ‘Roids for anti establishment types. And that leaves only one guy currently running and one woman currently not.

Mitt Romney, nor Rick Perry can BUY enough conservatives to get the job. Riddle me this FreeRepublic fans... If the one thing that the establishment relies on, money, has less clout than it used to, why is that and taken to a critically thought out conclusion, what does it mean/who does that then favor?

It ain’t establishment RINOs


30 posted on 10/05/2011 1:29:21 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: ari-freedom

Support two. The best, in your view, getting the greater of the support and then absolute and constant support of the nominee.

For example, in my case if I could, if I could afford three hundred dollars in total, I’d budget 150 dollars for during the primaries, with 100 going towards Cain and 50 towards Perry. Whomever of the two gets the nomination, if one of the two did, would get the remaining 150 dollars.

If as many people did that, you wouldn’t have to worry about the corporate dollars taking over.


31 posted on 10/05/2011 1:29:24 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I assure you that if it comes down to a choice between Perry or Romney for the nomination, I’ll be voting for Perry.


32 posted on 10/05/2011 1:29:33 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Then the Mittster has a clear path to the nomination, IMO.

But she’ll be in soon enough. I just hope she runs a fantastic campaign as, by all counts, she did for every race she was in in Alaska.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 1:30:49 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I agree. The Dems and establishment want Romney because it’s then business as usual.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 1:31:28 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: 9YearLurker
50x the left and GOP Establishment’s taking out energy has been expended on Palin over Perry. You’re right, she has rightly been their biggest concern for the past three years.

Cute. I KNOW Sarah Palin has been a target. I posted (as I'm sure you know) articles and vanity posts about her for years. But I believe Gov. Rick Perry is a better choice and why I've been doggedly vetting him here on FR.

35 posted on 10/05/2011 1:32:12 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“bundlers, fundraisers and money folks”

Whoops, RINO establishment.. you forgot something: The conservative base. Without us, victory in 2012 ain`t happenin`.


36 posted on 10/05/2011 1:33:28 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Well, I can tell you this, Gov. Rick Perry is no RINO, any more than he is a racist.


37 posted on 10/05/2011 1:34:11 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Jonty30

My analysis of the situation stands and some of those guys other than Romney are in it to win it for Romney.

And that would mean more of the same old, same old slow motion growth of government and debt that RINO’s are notorious for.......


38 posted on 10/05/2011 1:34:36 AM PDT by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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To: ScottinVA
Whoops, RINO establishment.. you forgot something: The conservative base. Without us, victory in 2012 ain`t happenin`.

Well, the window is closing rapidly on the nominee choice.

39 posted on 10/05/2011 1:35:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 9YearLurker

There’s a reason for the rocket-like rise of Cain.

He ain’t so easy to beat as you think.

All indications at this point is that Palin has chosen not to run, because she doesn’t even have anything up and running as of yet.

Unless there are things happening under the radar that nobody knows about, she’s choosing to sit out the race.


40 posted on 10/05/2011 1:36:40 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Cincinatus' Wife


Georgette Mosbacher. Yes, she's exactly what you'd expect her to look like.
41 posted on 10/05/2011 1:37:42 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“But I believe Gov. Rick Perry is a better choice and why I’ve been doggedly vetting him here on FR.”

George Orwell just rolled over in his grave.

Posting 24/7 apologies/defense and heaping unwarranted praise is now considered”Vetting”?!?!? Show me all the ‘critical’ articles you posted that would constitute an actual ‘vetting’, CW.


42 posted on 10/05/2011 1:37:54 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Say it a trillionzillionbijillion times.

Facts prove otherwise.


43 posted on 10/05/2011 1:39:12 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Show me all the ‘critical’ articles you posted that would constitute an actual ‘vetting’, CW.”

well Perry won a bean poll at a Texas state fair...


44 posted on 10/05/2011 1:40:51 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We don’t need any one who just taps the breaks before the car goes over the cliff. What we need is some one to turn things around 180 degrees and sorry to say I believe Mitt isn’t it. May be it may take another four years of the Anointed One to bring people to their senses. I believe that Herbert Cain would fill the ticket nicely and also may be well received by black voters, I have read his resume and it is impressive to say the least.We sure don’t need another warmed over politician as they have caused enough trouble. I do believe the time is right for some one with common sense and Herman Cain appears to have what it takes.


45 posted on 10/05/2011 1:41:15 AM PDT by saintgermaine
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To: Nextrush

I disagree that who is still in is doing it to help Romney, but I agree that if a couple don’t drop out soon, that could be the consequence.

Some are running, like Michelle, to probably increase name recognition to get a more prominent position in the House.

But it is my guess that Perry and Cain are sincere in trying to get the nomination.


46 posted on 10/05/2011 1:41:25 AM PDT by Jonty30
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Posting 24/7 apologies/defense and heaping unwarranted praise is now considered”Vetting”?!?!? Show me all the ‘critical’ articles you posted that would constitute an actual ‘vetting’, CW.

Are you kidding?!

I've posted articles and have had them well vetted by other posters and I have returned to answer them with information I searched to respond.

47 posted on 10/05/2011 1:42:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 9YearLurker; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; dixiechick2000
They almost consider it a gentleman’s agreement that the presidency be traded back and forth between parties every eight years

I commend to you Terry Reed and John Cummings, Compromised: Clinton, Bush, and the CIA, Spi/Shapolsky, 1994.

Clinton and North argue before the vice-president's surrogate, revealing the agreement you suggest.

Indeed we need an outsider, be it Rick Perry, Herman Cain, or Sarah Palin--not the obsequious Mitt Romney.

Obama must be defeated--after Mitt Romney is defeated.

I posit it will be easily done, as Romney's support may be a mile wide but no deeper than the coating on an M & M.

Each of the three I've mentioned has strengths--strengths we ought to promote.

Rick Perry appeals to the primacy of the Second Amendment at a time the fascists in the capital arm the barbarians at the gate.

Herman Cain is a master of entrepreneurship as the bolsheviks party in the treasury.

Sarah Palin is an iconoclaust in the era of political correctness.

We'll elect one president, enlist the others' talents--

--and Michelle Bachmann can go take John Boehner's job so he can have more time for golf.


48 posted on 10/05/2011 1:44:02 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: ari-freedom

I am floored at the absolute doublespeak. Just floored. But I shouldn’t be. Some of Perry’s most vocal supporters are an accurate reflection of their candidate. Full of doublespeak.


49 posted on 10/05/2011 1:44:02 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Jonty30

No, that’s not all indications at all. She reportedly has a small but very good staff (e.g., Jason Recher) to ramp up an unconventional run that will depend more on her media and social media skills, retail campaigning skills, and anti-big campaign money strategy than the usual hack-filled campaigns. She’s got grassroots energy and volunteers that beat those of the rest of the candidates combined.

Why do you think the likes of Tokyo Rove and Fox News tried to force her to announce earlier, if at all? Because that would have made it easier for them to take her out. She knows what she is doing and has timed this thing perfectly.

Cain is still only at 55% name recognition, for crying out loud, whereas Palin’s still ahead of any of the candidates on that, even all the months and years and millions in campaigning from the likes of Willard.

Cain is succeeding nicely in selling his books, but he really only rose with the base’s reaction against the Romney and Perry alternatives. He is almost assuredly at the high-water mark of his popularity right now—and may have burst it with his cheap shotting of Perry on Sunday.


50 posted on 10/05/2011 1:44:33 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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