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We “Do Not Consider Perry a Factor… We Know Who it is Who Will be Our Nominee”
Race 4 2012 ^ | October 4, 2011 | Matt Coulter

Posted on 10/05/2011 1:03:21 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Those words were spoken today by Georgette Mosbacher, RNC Finance Co-Chair and huge GOP fundraiser, after Chris Christie’s announcement. The “we” is all the big bundlers, fundraisers, and money folks who have been sitting on the sidelines waiting for the field to be set — and that quote represents the coalescing around Mitt Romney that is expected to happen rather quickly now. Mosbacher went on to say:

“I think tomorrow, we’ll be contacting one another and probably put something together with Romney… And I would say that the race is now Romney and Obama. Quite frankly, the enthusiasm wasn’t there at the outset. He’s less conservative than a lot of us would like. However, our first and foremost goal is to defeat Obama. And we do believe Romney, in terms of independents, will be a strong candidate. We will coalesce behind him now… the time has come to get behind him… Tomorrow I’ll be on the phone all day. Quite frankly, it’ll be easier, because now we know who it is who will be our nominee. So we will pull our Rolodexes out and get to work.”

Fellow bundler and sideline-sitter John Catsimatidis added, “I’m going to go with Mitt Romney. I don’t think Perry has it in him to do it. He’s a lot better than Sarah Palin, but not a lot lot better.”

Ouch.

In related news, Romney also scored another major fundraiser from the Draft Christie movement: Ken Langone. Langone is the founder of Home Depot and is described as a “titan” in the political money scene. He backed Rudy Giuliani in 2008, helping Giuliani out raise the other candidates. There is evidence that a great deal of the money that had sat on the sidelines so far in this race will now fall into Romney’s coffers.

Rick Perry, for his part, got the endorsement of another Draft Christie member: Gary Kirke, a west Iowa investor and casino owner who had also been sitting on the sidelines until this afternoon.


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To: Jonty30

Not if individual conservatives are willing to give a hundred or to to Perry or Cain and help them run like hell.

Cain yes....I gave him money already and will give him more. Perry I wouldn’t even give him a penny....I don’t give money to liberals.


51 posted on 10/05/2011 1:45:26 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: saintgermaine
.......I believe that Herbert Cain would fill the ticket nicely and also may be well received by black voters.........

This isn't about "black" it's about LIBERAL vs Conservatism.

I almost fell over last night when BRIT HUME of all people said that the GOP will win if they don't pick an "extreme" candidate ------- cue Romney.

Rush is right. We need to run the candidate that is a conservative and THAT is Rick Perry. He's in. He has organization. He has money. He will fight.

52 posted on 10/05/2011 1:45:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: ari-freedom
well Perry won a bean poll at a Texas state fair...

Where did I post that?

I didn't.

53 posted on 10/05/2011 1:47:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Norm Lenhart

“I am floored at the absolute doublespeak. Just floored. But I shouldn’t be. Some of Perry’s most vocal supporters are an accurate reflection of their candidate. Full of doublespeak.”

They’re all on our side, you know. They just want the most experienced, best financed guy to beat Romney. Cain has his own set of weaknesses that supporters don’t want to admit and so does Palin and her fans.


54 posted on 10/05/2011 1:49:08 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Say it a trillionzillionbijillion times. Facts prove otherwise.

Afraid to be specific or do you just want to throw stuff out there like the Washington Post does?

55 posted on 10/05/2011 1:49:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: PhilDragoo

You’re right that Boehner needs to be replaced, but Bachmann hasn’t shown the legislative leadership skills to be the one to replace him.

And you miss Perry’s game if you call him an outsider. He’s for sale to anyone who’ll buy, and that’s the GOP Establishment (see: the TTC) often enough. Sure, he plays the rube cowboy conservative game (so well that W is said to have copied him in part), but he has been in the race to try to fool enough conservatives to climb onto his Trojan bandwagon. We’ve seen through it though, so Palin is still a threat to coalesce the conservative base and outnumber Romney’s voters.

Cain is another conservative that they’ve been glad to have in there (like Bachmann) to try to fragment the base. He’s doing that to some degree, but like Perry he’s not a strong enough candidate to maintain it against another, more viable conservative option.

The GOP RINO Establishment are deeper in this race, trying to throw in diversionary candidates against the force of Palin, than most people realize.


56 posted on 10/05/2011 1:50:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Doofer

“more than likely and now the MSM will try and destry Cain.”

Yeah, they sure will, though he`s a bit of a harder target than Perry.

My theory is the “media” — once they get the DNC directive — will start to exploit Cain`s battle with cancer. They`ll start a campaign of “concern” about whether his health would hold up, and that it`s “unnecessarily risky” to elect someone who “could die in office,” especially in these “tumultuous times.” CNN will host some oh-so-earnest oncologists on talk shows explaining to a mushy-minded, rather simple American electorate about the return rate of various cancers.. and lo and behold, Cain`s will be among the most aggressive.

Watch for it... coming to a “news” report soon...


57 posted on 10/05/2011 1:50:40 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Where did I post that? “

ah that would be Clairity. My mistake.


58 posted on 10/05/2011 1:51:43 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not at all. You are Perry’s Chief apologist on FR. Anyone reading your post history can easily see that for themselves. You ignore all legit criticzm to your candidate and have dozens of unaddressed issues that Freepers, myself and others, have questioned RE Perry’s positions. In fact, less than a week ago I posted about 10 or so myself that you ignored, then ducked, dodged and hept right on bulling through. As I said then, Pathetic.

Further, JR hisself smacked you down after one particularly obnoxious ‘pro Perry’ stunt on the Palin threads a little while back. And then you tried arguing with him over it.

No, I’m not kidding at all and anyone who ponders taking you seriously better read up on your activities before doing it. Vetting...That word...I do not think it means what you think it means.


59 posted on 10/05/2011 1:51:47 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: 9YearLurker

In regards to both Cain and Perry. As Thomas Sowell pointed out, if you expect Superman and only Superman, discounting the others because of small errors, you’re going to end up with just a warm body and no good candidates.

I can overlook Perry on immigration, because he had to abide by federal legislation on the issue and has promised to reform immigration reform if he becomes President. I can overlook Cain’s cheap shot at Perry, because because he’s not a black nationalist, but black racism against whites is embedded in black culture, that it’s going to be a part of their thinking at times. Many blacks are starting to arise above it, but it’s going to take time.


60 posted on 10/05/2011 1:54:07 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Afraid to answer the many posts I have made? Seems so, you duck them with snark just like this EVERY TIME.


61 posted on 10/05/2011 1:54:40 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: 9YearLurker
I think you're describing a board game on a conveyor belt Palin's played in her dreams.

That she'll step onto it presently poised as a public contestant would.

In which case the Republic shall be saved.

America is ready for an adventure film with an upbeat ending--and audience participation.


62 posted on 10/05/2011 1:55:19 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Cute. I KNOW Sarah Palin has been a target. I posted (as I’m sure you know) articles and vanity posts about her for years. But I believe Gov. Rick Perry is a better choice and why I’ve been doggedly vetting him here on FR.

Ok. Now you are getting silly. You clearly are a drunk. There is no way that Ricardo is better than Governor Palin. You are either hitting the bong or drunk or both.


63 posted on 10/05/2011 1:55:40 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He backed Rudy Giuliani in 2008, helping Giuliani out raise the other candidates...

ahahaha

That sure helped get Giuliani elected - oh, wait

64 posted on 10/05/2011 1:56:08 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: 9YearLurker
And you miss Perry’s game if you call him an outsider. He’s for sale to anyone who’ll buy, and that’s the GOP Establishment (see: the TTC) often enough

You should work for the Washington Post.

The governor battled environmentalist activists and Democratic Party politics in his push for more transportation infrastructure in a state exploding with commerce and population.

65 posted on 10/05/2011 1:56:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BubbaJunebug

“I’m getting visions of Bob Dole all over again....”

OMG Yes!!!!!! I have been trying to think of who Mittens reminds me of ... and it’s Bob Dole. Great guy. Presidential? Fire in the belly? Think again.

Aside from whether he’s a RINO, it is POINTLESS to go with Mittens because he will NOT win. Full disclosure: I think Cain is absolutely the guy who could win, if only he could reach the ballot.


66 posted on 10/05/2011 1:56:42 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: napscoordinator

I didn’t say to give to Perry, but your second choice candidate, which in my case is Perry.

Romney-nuff said.
Baachman is not strong enough to win the nomination.
Huntsman is too liberal.
The rest don’t count for much.


67 posted on 10/05/2011 1:58:08 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Not for my choice. He`s already in.


68 posted on 10/05/2011 1:58:41 AM PDT by ScottinVA (With "successes" like the Libya adventure, who needs failure?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You should work for the Washington Post. “

How much are you paid for your posts promoting Rick Perry?


69 posted on 10/05/2011 1:59:05 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart
You are Perry’s Chief apologist on FR

What was I when I posted for Sarah Palin?

I posted an invitation on 3 threads for Palin supporters to come check out Perry. I do not go on Palin threads like you and the others do to me.

70 posted on 10/05/2011 1:59:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Norm Lenhart
How much are you paid for your posts promoting Rick Perry?

You really are contemptible.

71 posted on 10/05/2011 2:00:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: markomalley
If Romney is the nominee, then I don’t bother going to the polls to vote

So if it's not your choice, you'll give your vote to Obama.

Brilliant.

(to self: these people are as much a problem as the establishment pubbies - geeze)

72 posted on 10/05/2011 2:00:49 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Jonty30

Thanks.....I would still give to Bachmann or Santorum way before Perry.....I would not even vote for Ricardo for President in the general. If Republicans are dumb enough to nominate Romney or Perry than they deserve whatever happens in the next four years. Romney, Perry and Obama are the exact same person.


73 posted on 10/05/2011 2:04:11 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: maine-iac7

“That sure helped get Giuliani elected - oh, wait “

What difference did it make? We ended up with mcCain


74 posted on 10/05/2011 2:04:20 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

FUGOP.

Romney has not proven he has the stones to take on Obama. Hell, he is Obama-lite.

What is the difference between them?

The RINOS are leaking this to discourage any more entrants, especially from Alaska. Remeber Babs Bush comment that Sarah Palind should stay in Alaska.

Pretty rich from a family that has done more to set conservatism back thirty years than anyone. And they are supposedly on OUR side.

If the GOP goes to Romney, it will be the last election the GOP is a factor in.

Obama will dust Romney in the general, especially with the vote fraud already in place. Then kiss America good-bye.

We have already seen this play, in 2008, with divemaster McQueeg.

Only an outsider from DC can bring real change. And that’s Sarah Palin.

Poor Babs will have a fit when Sarah announces.


75 posted on 10/05/2011 2:05:37 AM PDT by exit82 (Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
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To: napscoordinator

Did you see the thread about Cain being tied with Romney at 17% now and Perry falling 12% points, in the past two weeks?


76 posted on 10/05/2011 2:06:21 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Jonty30

Perry’s a corrupt crony capitalist who has got to and held onto his position by selling out to the highest bidder as much as by his smarts or a coherent political philosophy.

Look how quickly he called us out for being “heartless” racists, discriminating against people by their “last names”? How he defended his Gardasil mandate because he’ll always choose on the side of “protecting life”? (That’s an authoritarian impulse big-government compassionate conservative for you. Nurse Bloomberg has the same impulse, except he’s “protected” far more lives with anti-smoking, low-sodium and low-fat initiatives in NYC.)

In short, Perry is compromised, like Mitt, in campaigning against the Obamacare mandates, but also even more than Mitt against campaigning against Obama’s big-spending cronyism. And he is less able to hold his own in a debate or speaking off the cuff than Romney is.

(Big hint here: Palin is the one with the credibility to campaign against Obamacare’s mandates and Obama’s big government corruption.)

And, finally, Perry is a more viable candidate than Cain is.


77 posted on 10/05/2011 2:07:10 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Jim Robinson

“I posted an invitation on 3 threads for Palin supporters to come check out Perry. I do not go on Palin threads like you and the others do to me.”

Because you are posting flat out lies. AND JIM SMACKED YOU DOWN for your BS on the Palin threads in question. Now you show me a single series of posts that ‘I’m ‘hatin’ on ol’ Rick’ just to stir the pot. Never happened. My opposition is based in fact, as are my posts.

I pinged him as a courtesy. His reaction to your Palin ‘invitation’ about a month back (an ‘olive branch’ I believed you called it at the time) was not a positive one. You really need to stop trying to cover your tracks.


78 posted on 10/05/2011 2:07:30 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Netizen

Did you see the thread about Cain being tied with Romney at 17% now and Perry falling 12% points, in the past two weeks?

No but that is fantastic news.....anything to get rid of Ricardo and Romney. Can’t even believe that they were a consideration......


79 posted on 10/05/2011 2:07:36 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: BubbaJunebug
I’m getting visions of Bob Dole all over again....same people same money...........not good

Yep with Romney or Perry that will be the likely scenario all the way down to having two north east liberals {Snowe & Collins for example} keynoting at the 2012 GOP Convention.

80 posted on 10/05/2011 2:07:42 AM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You really are contemptible. “

Answer the question. Are you a paid operative for the GOP or Romney campaign?


81 posted on 10/05/2011 2:08:51 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: 9YearLurker
Perry’s a corrupt crony capitalist who has got to and held onto his position by selling out to the highest bidder as much as by his smarts or a coherent political philosophy.

LINKS! Facts! Or doesn't that matter to our side?

82 posted on 10/05/2011 2:09:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Um, Texas businesses bid higher than Texas environmentalists. Sold to the men in the smoke-filled rooms!


83 posted on 10/05/2011 2:10:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: School of Rational Thought
I would have to consider not voting if GOP settles for Romney. Romney is not better than Bush and looks where that took the country.

School of IRRATIONAL Thought. (Fixed ya monica for ya)

That makes two of you in the first few links that either will NOT or will CONSIDER not voting if it's Romney.

Romney is far from my choice also - but he's not a communist, not a mooseslime and not not committed to, or controlled by, people committed to destroying our country.

So you guys would rather give your vote to 'bumbles than vote for 'not your choice.'

Puts me in mind of the saying "With friends like you, who needs enemies?" or is it "Grow up?"

84 posted on 10/05/2011 2:10:13 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I see, you just want to hear me deny it.

I don’t work for Perry or any political party or PAC or anything.


85 posted on 10/05/2011 2:10:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 9YearLurker
Um, Texas businesses bid higher than Texas environmentalists. Sold to the men in the smoke-filled rooms!

You couldn't by a clue if it was paid for and put in your hand (which I just did with that link). The people who live and work in Texas know we need more infrastructure to move goods and people. Don't comment if you don't know what you're talking about.

86 posted on 10/05/2011 2:13:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: 9YearLurker

“Um, Texas businesses bid higher than Texas environmentalists. Sold to the men in the smoke-filled rooms!”

huh? who cares about a bunch of tree huggers?


87 posted on 10/05/2011 2:13:09 AM PDT by ari-freedom (I'm a heartless conservative because I love this country.)
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To: 9YearLurker
She has timed it perfectly despite all the media and Establishment’s pressure and many FREEPERS to get in earlier.

Finished it for ya ;o)

88 posted on 10/05/2011 2:14:30 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: PhilDragoo

I’ve qualified a few times on this thread that she has to run a good campaign to win. But she is the best natural politician our side has had in a generation and IMO the only one other than Romney capable of getting the nomination.

Close observers could have forecasted (and did forecast) a Romney v. Palin battle three years ago. That’s why Romney’s paid hacks didn’t even wait until McCain lost in ‘08 to go after Palin.


89 posted on 10/05/2011 2:14:37 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: napscoordinator

That’s fine. I wasn’t being specific as to who I think anybody should support.


90 posted on 10/05/2011 2:15:05 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: maine-iac7

Ha ha—so true!


91 posted on 10/05/2011 2:15:14 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: napscoordinator
Here's the thread

Herman Cain has moved into a tie with Mitt Romney

92 posted on 10/05/2011 2:15:46 AM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Jonty30

Cool. Have a great day!!!!!


93 posted on 10/05/2011 2:15:49 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Netizen

Thank you!

So glad we have a chance to dumb Ricardo and Romney!!!! This is fantastic news!!!!


94 posted on 10/05/2011 2:16:51 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: markomalley
If Romney is the nominee, then I don’t bother going to the polls to vote. 100 mph or 75 mph, both are going in the same direction.

A supreme court packed with Sotomayor and Kagan types for at least 10 more years, 4 more of Eric Holder. Well, that'll show those RINOs!
95 posted on 10/05/2011 2:16:53 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: ari-freedom; Cincinatus' Wife

That’s not my point. I was disputing CW’s idea that Perry’s not siding with those tree huggers was evidence that he somehow wasn’t an often-enough GOP Establishment player.

Of course, being anti-environmentalist in Texas is no evidence of being outside the GOP Establishment at all!


96 posted on 10/05/2011 2:17:40 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Norm Lenhart

Don’t forget the denial of his past. Also Perry and Romney are ahead because of women vote and support for a person’s looks.


97 posted on 10/05/2011 2:17:58 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Obama is a Communist, a Muslim, and an illegal alien)
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To: 9YearLurker

Palin isn’t running, at this point, so my point was you gotta pick who you think are the next two best candidates.

If Palin does decide to run, you can always pick her and drop the lesser of your previous candidates.


98 posted on 10/05/2011 2:18:03 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
He’s a lot better than Sarah Palin, but not a lot lot better.”

Another case of having more money than good sense.

Otherwise, I'm not familiar with the source site. If this info is reputable, the RNC is cruising for another fight this election season.

99 posted on 10/05/2011 2:18:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("This Is Hermain Cain!" has moved up to #8 in Amazon books. Release date: Oct 4)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Glad to hear that. Now explain why you continue to ignore legitimate FACTS about Perry ...say for example his ‘LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’ that Gore was no radical eco when he supported him, when one Google search showed Gore on PBS NOVA years before that raving like an Earth First level lunatic?

That’s ONE. Now tell me why CONSERVATIVES should back a man willing to LIE to his potential voters when the truth is so easily discovered? That’s not ‘hate’, that’s a legit question about the trustworthiness of a candidate.

I await your answer to that SPECIFIC question. Then we’ll get to the many others you refuse to address.


100 posted on 10/05/2011 2:18:49 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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