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US Oks $196.5M for high-speed Chicago-Detroit rail (train to nowhere in particular)
Yahoo ^ | 10/05/11

Posted on 10/05/2011 3:13:46 PM PDT by Libloather

US Oks $196.5M for high-speed Chicago-Detroit rail
AP – 25 mins ago

KALAMAZOO, Mich. (AP) — The U.S. Department of Transportation has approved $196.5 million for part of a high-speed Amtrak passenger rail link between Chicago and Detroit, Michigan U.S. Sens. Carl Levin and Debbie Stabenow said Wednesday.

The funds now being obligated cover work from Kalamazoo in western Michigan to Dearborn in suburban Detroit, the Democratic lawmakers said.

The grant to the Michigan Department of Transportation will cover track and signal improvements.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Illinois; US: Indiana; US: Michigan; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: carllevin; chicago; debbiestabenow; detroit; illinois; indiana; michigan; ohio; rail; train
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What is it with RATS and trains?
1 posted on 10/05/2011 3:13:47 PM PDT by Libloather
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To: Libloather
Such a tourist attraction...and must see cities. Everyone wants to visit Detroit and Chicago
2 posted on 10/05/2011 3:16:18 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

the Willie Green Expressway


3 posted on 10/05/2011 3:18:56 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Libloather
Detroit is the "Beirut" of the U.S.A.

Having high speed rail needs only to go in one direction-----> AWAY FROM DEETROIT.

(That is, until the gangs steal the trains)

4 posted on 10/05/2011 3:18:56 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Libloather

Such a tourist attraction...and must see cities. Everyone wants to visit Detroit and Chicago. Could stop by and see Obama’s home in Chicago, visit Oprah and even drop by the prison and see if Blago is there OR there is always the mosque, motown and what is left of motor city Detroit.


5 posted on 10/05/2011 3:19:25 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Libloather

Oh yeah, I want to take the train to Dee troit.


6 posted on 10/05/2011 3:23:09 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: katiedidit1

Each of the two end train terminals will need an entire Combat Loaded SeaBee Battalion to repair them and a Combat Loaded Battalion of Marines to secure them.


7 posted on 10/05/2011 3:23:40 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Libloather

I don’t understand this at all.

Chicago has great food so why would they need high speed rail to get Soilent Green from Detroit?

Detroit has been destroyed from within and I sure don’t want my hard earned tax dollars going to this obvious effort to buy union jobs.


8 posted on 10/05/2011 3:26:17 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (Welcome to the new USSA (United Socialist States of Amerika))
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To: Libloather

That ought to pay for maybe 10 miles.


9 posted on 10/05/2011 3:27:14 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: SandRat

ha ha ha ha....unbelievable of all cities to pick. Maybe LA to San Fran is next.


10 posted on 10/05/2011 3:29:31 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: Libloather
What is it with RATS and trains? The green weenies have a dream of forcing everyone to live in cities, with everything in between designated wilderness areas. They hate cars, because cars make you independent, and they want people dependent on government for everything. Finally unions love them because they create union jobs to build them, then permanent union jobs to run them.
11 posted on 10/05/2011 3:31:31 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: katiedidit1

If they decide to either one they’d need to increase the unit size to a full Brigade of SeaBees and a Brigade of Combat Marines.


12 posted on 10/05/2011 3:33:45 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Libloather
Sounds like they are getting a deal for the price! Here we are going to have to pay a bit more than half of that for a streetcar that goes a few blocks, from the center of downtown to a Very Scary Neighborhood that is used as a stand-in for Harlem by Hollywood.

Could buses travel the same route? Of course. Why a streetcar? Somebody is raking in the money.

Which answers much of why the left is so thrilled with rail travel.

Trains aren't even that wonderful in Europe. My buddy in Germany said the trains aren't safe for women traveling alone...
13 posted on 10/05/2011 3:35:22 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: katiedidit1
If the train only made stops at each casino in Detroit, it might not lose as much, but its still a loser proposition.
14 posted on 10/05/2011 3:36:44 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Libloather

Wow. Who would want to go to Detroit these days in the first place? Especially at high speed.


15 posted on 10/05/2011 3:38:31 PM PDT by Wiggins
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To: Hugin

High Speed to Insolvency (Why liberals love trains)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2681147/posts

To progressives, the best thing about railroads is that people riding them are not in automobiles, which are subversive of the deference on which progressivism depends. Automobiles go hither and yon, wherever and whenever the driver desires, without timetables. Automobiles encourage people to think they—unsupervised, untutored, and unscripted—are masters of their fates. The automobile encourages people in delusions of adequacy, which make them resistant to government by experts who know what choices people should make.


16 posted on 10/05/2011 3:41:22 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: Libloather

For Chicagoans bored with the adventure of taking the Green Line west.


17 posted on 10/05/2011 3:41:47 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: SandRat

LOL!!!!! think of all the foreign languages spoken..would need an interpreter..or could rob a bank in Chicago and hide out in the mosques in Detroit. 196 million plus..absurd


18 posted on 10/05/2011 3:43:43 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: katiedidit1

You gotta agree that it’s one way to solve the LA Gang Problem.


19 posted on 10/05/2011 3:50:22 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: grellis; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Libloather.


20 posted on 10/05/2011 3:50:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Libloather
This makes no sense. Maybe back in 1950 when Detroit was the fifth biggest city in the country and Chicago was second. But even back then the major transcontinental trains did not go through Detroit, they passed south on the route of the Twentieth Century Limited or today's Lake Shore Limited.

This will be another boondoggle, like New Mexico's Road Runner.

21 posted on 10/05/2011 3:53:28 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Libloather

I live right near the line in question just west of Ann Arbor. I see the trains every day and I can tell you that except near holidays or break time at U of M the AMTRAK trains are empty.

Now they will probably put up fences along the tracks, ugly my backyard view up, and block my access to my fishing spot on the Huron river so empty trains can get to Chicago 30 minutes faster.

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22 posted on 10/05/2011 3:54:11 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: The Free Engineer

And the days of Bears fans flooding Detroit when they play the Lions at Ford Field are over.


23 posted on 10/05/2011 3:55:53 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Libloather

Aack, we don’t need it. Who wants to go to Chicago anyway? Worse yet, who wants to go to Detroit?


24 posted on 10/05/2011 3:56:15 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Libloather

And with all the graft and corruption in Chicongo and Detroit it will cost the taxpayers 5 times the 196 Mill, and that is only for the “part” that will never be used.


25 posted on 10/05/2011 4:08:11 PM PDT by chainsaw (I'd hate to be a democrat running against Sarah Palin.)
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To: Libloather

Subsidized public transportation vs. private auto’s and airlines.

ACORNonomics in action.


26 posted on 10/05/2011 4:18:37 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Libloather

27 posted on 10/05/2011 4:23:38 PM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: madison10

I don’t know who’d want to ride it, but 1,380 people do every day.


28 posted on 10/05/2011 4:38:23 PM PDT by Qout
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To: iowamark

STRELNIKOV!


29 posted on 10/05/2011 4:42:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Libloather
A high speed rail system linking the most corrupt city in America with the biggest welfare disaster of a city in America—what could go wrong?

Follow the money. All contracts will be limited to union contracts and the cost overruns will be astronomical and the track will be laid just as good as the ceiling in the Boston tunnel.

30 posted on 10/05/2011 4:53:19 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: dfwgator
There won't be anything high speed about it. The route has little towns like Grass Lake Michigan every few miles and there's no way they'll allow speeds in triple digits through there.

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31 posted on 10/05/2011 5:38:22 PM PDT by cripplecreek (MLB Playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2786167/posts)
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To: Libloather

The S-bahn (8) between Wiesbaden and Hanau, Germany could be the model. Unemployed junkies, druggies, student-type “revolutionaries”, their bikes and their dogs? What a great pamphlet it would make, eh? Sooo, run that by me again- Detroit to Chicago and back because...?


32 posted on 10/05/2011 6:06:45 PM PDT by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: The Free Engineer

“so empty trains can get to Chicago 30 minutes faster.”

For appearances sake only...as IF! Just like Obama.


33 posted on 10/05/2011 7:38:17 PM PDT by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: Libloather

Let the Chicago political crooks pay for it.

Better yet put them all on for the first ride and secretly build the end of the line straight to the closet Illinois Prison.


34 posted on 10/05/2011 7:54:37 PM PDT by Revel
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To: equaviator

Because during elections, the dimrats need to move the Chicago rats to Detroit to vote and the Detroit rats to Chicago to vote. Then repeat the process. If it is a high speed train, they can get multiple loads transferred in a day so that baraq can get a huge number of votes from those two cities all in one day.

Now you see?


35 posted on 10/05/2011 7:59:02 PM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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36 posted on 10/06/2011 7:50:16 AM PDT by grellis (I am Jill's overwhelming sense of disgust.)
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To: Libloather

Mousellini and Hitler were similarly directed toward trains.


37 posted on 10/06/2011 8:06:48 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Texas resident

I have seen the lite!


38 posted on 10/06/2011 8:14:05 AM PDT by equaviator ( "There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: cripplecreek

That’s what I keep telling my (union member) in-laws. For Hi-speed, they will need to construct a separate (elevated?) line because of all the podunk stations like your Grass Lake and my Albion.

I can drive from Midway to downtown Dee-troit (GO TIGERS!!!!) in about 4-5 hours. The “hi-speed” rail project says that Union Station (CHI) to Detroit Amtrak will be 4 hours.

I know for a fact that the train WILL be delayed; freight has priority over passenger traffic in the Chicago market (CHI - Gary).

Passenger trains have historically been delayed (either direction) for up to 4 hours to allow for freight.


39 posted on 10/06/2011 8:16:14 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: madison10
Aack, we don’t need it. Who wants to go to Chicago anyway?

my brother in law is stationed in Great Lakes, IL just outside of chicago. My mom takes the train from k-zoo to Chicago about once a month to visit my sister. that's about the only reason i can think of for wanting to go there.
40 posted on 10/06/2011 8:19:04 AM PDT by absolootezer0 (2x divorced tattooed pierced harley hatin meghan mccain luvin' REAL beer drinkin' smoker ..what?)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Also missed is the fact that towns like Albion, Grass Lake, Chelsea etc have spent a lot of local money to restore the historic old depots. There will be a major court fight every step of the way if they attempt to tear those down to put in a separate track for high speed.


41 posted on 10/06/2011 8:59:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (MLB Playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2786167/posts)
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To: colorado tanker
Maybe back in 1950

The old Detroit train depot was an architectural masterpiece back then, just like many of the other buildings in Detroit which have now fallen into ruin.

Detroit’s train station

42 posted on 10/06/2011 9:37:54 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: boomop1
That ought to pay for maybe 10 miles

I'm guessing more like the planning only for the first 10 miles, environmental impact statements, buying up property/stealing it, and so forth. We've got a 17-mile project they're pushing here on Oahu that has gone from costing 2 billion when it was sold to the public, now 5-15 billion conservative estimate.

43 posted on 10/06/2011 9:39:32 AM PDT by BuckyKat (Green = the new red)
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To: The Free Engineer

I was shocked, I say, shocked when I read some ding dong official of the Guvmint stated that this so-called “high-speed” train project shaved a big 30 minutes off the 5 hour trip....which is never going to happen with the late departures/arrivals typical of Amtrak. Boondoggle Bloody Waste!


44 posted on 10/06/2011 10:18:37 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Hot Tabasco
Wow, what a shame that building has fallen into ruin. It's so massive, only a huge redevelopment project could save it. Not likely given the direction Detroit has been going.

Denver's Union Station is tiny by comparison, but maybe that is its saving grace. It still serves as an AMTRAC station and will soon be a light rail hub.

45 posted on 10/06/2011 11:09:33 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: WOBBLY BOB; All
the Willie Green Expressway

For those of us who never heard the name, who is/was Willie Green?

46 posted on 10/06/2011 1:08:19 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

an advocate for anything passenger train related (and former freeper)


47 posted on 10/06/2011 1:43:34 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: cripplecreek

The average speed s supposed to be something like 62 mph.


48 posted on 10/06/2011 1:52:05 PM PDT by CharacterCounts (November 4, 2008 - the day America drank the Kool-Aid)
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To: CharacterCounts

So basically, right around the speed SCAMTRACK Runs today. LOL


49 posted on 10/06/2011 1:53:58 PM PDT by cripplecreek (MLB Playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2786167/posts)
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To: Hot Tabasco; grellis; cripplecreek; SunkenCiv; All

For a virtual tour of the ruins of Detroit, you can go to:

http://detroityes.com/home.htm


50 posted on 10/06/2011 2:16:04 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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