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Nearly Half of U.S. Lives in Household Receiving Government Benefit (Totally Unsustainable!)
wall street journal ^ | 10/5/2011 | Sara Murray

Posted on 10/06/2011 3:47:58 AM PDT by tobyhill

Families were more dependent on government programs than ever last year.

Nearly half, 48.5%, of the population lived in a household that received some type of government benefit in the first quarter of 2010, according to Census data. Those numbers have risen since the middle of the recession when 44.4% lived households receiving benefits in the third quarter of 2008.

The share of people relying on government benefits has reached a historic high, in large part from the deep recession and meager recovery, but also because of the expansion of government programs over the years. (See a timeline on the history of government benefits programs here.)

Means-tested programs, designed to help the needy, accounted for the largest share of recipients last year. Some 34.2% of Americans lived in a household that received benefits such as food stamps, subsidized housing, cash welfare or Medicaid (the federal-state health care program for the poor).

Another 14.5% lived in homes where someone was on Medicare (the health care program for the elderly). Nearly 16% lived in households receiving Social Security.

High unemployment and increased reliance on government programs has also shrunk the nation’s share of taxpayers. Some 46.4% of households will pay no federal income tax this year, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. That’s up from 39.9% in 2007, the year the recession began.

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TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 50; dependent; entitled; entitlements; freecheese; gimme; gotsmine; government; half; socialism; taxes; welfare; welfarestate
Hey Greece, we're catching up fast and then look out Zimbabwe.
1 posted on 10/06/2011 3:48:02 AM PDT by tobyhill
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To: tobyhill

Let us embrace the “Kenya model “


2 posted on 10/06/2011 3:52:47 AM PDT by Einherjar
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To: tobyhill

Bump


3 posted on 10/06/2011 3:55:44 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: tobyhill

I spent two weeks in Crete back in the 1990s, and I kept looking at the various infrastructure projects and comical view of physical labor by most Greeks....thinking there’s something wrong with this picture. I realize now...that the US has the same issues, and repeating the “Greek philosophy”. There’s probably a great book here for someone to write...how to Greek your way into debt or something.


4 posted on 10/06/2011 4:03:28 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks tobyhill.


5 posted on 10/06/2011 4:08:48 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: tobyhill

This can’t last long. Plus, how many corporations are receiving government aid?


6 posted on 10/06/2011 4:09:08 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: tobyhill

7 posted on 10/06/2011 4:14:11 AM PDT by John W (Natural-born US citizen since 1955)
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To: tobyhill

Do you really think that Greece and Zimbabwe have the same class mobility, national values, work ethic and the same sense of social responsibility to pay taxes, as do Americans?

Oh, and how many world wars have Greece and Zimbabwe underwritten anmd sent millions to fight an die for, in the name of world peace, human rights and stability?


8 posted on 10/06/2011 4:15:10 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: freedomfiter2

That depends on what you call “government aid”

Do you mean government letting corporations keep and reinvest their own already-taxed-once money?

Democrats consider reducing your taxes to be a “tax expenditure”


9 posted on 10/06/2011 4:17:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: silverleaf
No I don't as of yet but it's right around the corner if we don't change direction.

Take a look at the Wall Street thing. A bunch of thugs demanding more freebies and trust me, our politicians will give it to them just for a vote or two.

10 posted on 10/06/2011 4:27:45 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: silverleaf

I’m talking about giving tax money to corporations like in Obama’s green energy scams or bailouts of banks and car companies. We should include property tax forgiveness as well.


11 posted on 10/06/2011 4:28:12 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: tobyhill

The plan is to have the half of people not receiving government checks get taxed paying for the half getting government checks to the point where they qualify for Food Stamps.


12 posted on 10/06/2011 4:29:06 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: tobyhill

Cain’s 9-9-9 will change that. EVERYONE will become a taxpayer.


13 posted on 10/06/2011 4:31:03 AM PDT by GatorGirl (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: freedomfiter2

ah, tax abatement as a form of govt aid

do you see the irony

the only problem with tax abatement is it is not across the board


14 posted on 10/06/2011 4:32:18 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: RFEngineer
Yea, a person making $16 an hour can take home $6 an hour. $8 an hour goes to the welfare mooches and the other $2 an hour can go to our government officials so they can keep buying the votes.
15 posted on 10/06/2011 4:34:36 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: tobyhill
Nearly Half of U.S. Lives in Household Receiving Government Benefit (Totally Unsustainable!)

Undoubtedly these are the same ones that pay no taxes yet are allowed to continue to vote for those who promise government handouts. To change this there must be a rule - NO TAXES, NO VOTE!

FUBO GTFO! 472 Days until Noon Jan 20, 2013

16 posted on 10/06/2011 4:51:00 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Psalm 109:8 Let his days be few and let another take his office. - Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: tobyhill

Don’t assume all recipients are automatic Libs. I am on Medicaid /Soc. Sec. because I have no choice. Doesn’t mean I will vote Liberal - past, present, or future.


17 posted on 10/06/2011 5:00:25 AM PDT by Makana
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To: Makana
I don't and I understand that if it weren't for the welfare mooches then Social Security and Medicare could be solvent with a few tweaks.

I am not a fan of Medicaid because I think too many people scam the system at the expense of others.

18 posted on 10/06/2011 5:15:47 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: tobyhill

“Yea, a person making $16 an hour can take home $6 an hour.”

Eventually this person figures out they can take home more on government benefits. Then they can do pick-up work on the side and pocket everything they make.

I know of people who do this.

I tried to hire a guy recently - when I refused to do so under the table, he refused to work - as he would put his unemployment in jeopardy - and he made more combining unemployment with the work he did on the side. He was quite open about it.

That’s how this crazy gravy train works - rewarding dishonesty at every turn.


19 posted on 10/06/2011 5:20:10 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: tobyhill

It would be interesting to excise the amount that is demographic (baby boom retirees) from that which is economic. The implication by the article is the latter. The easiest way to bring that number down is by means testing Social Security.


20 posted on 10/06/2011 5:30:15 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: RFEngineer
Eventually this person figures out they can take home more on government benefits.

I don't know that it's "eventually". The information about how to play the system is on the street by now, and is passed down from one generation to the next. I've done some tax preparation work and the folks who claim EITC come in pretty well informed about it and just rubbing their hands together waiting for that check of around $5,000.

21 posted on 10/06/2011 5:31:39 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Will88

“I don’t know that it’s “eventually”. “

You’re absolutely right about the generational folks. I was referring to erstwhile “hard-working” folks where life with a government check is a new, formerly abhorrent thing.

It will take them a while to join the welfare party, but join it they will.


22 posted on 10/06/2011 5:43:21 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: tobyhill

My wife and I get S/S and Medicare.


23 posted on 10/06/2011 8:10:08 AM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: tobyhill

To get the percentage that high, they must be counting extended family collecting social security as part of the “household”.


24 posted on 10/06/2011 8:10:08 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: ExtremeUnction
And it won't be here for other generations as long as the Government keeps allowing ghetto mooches to skim out of the system where too few pay in.
25 posted on 10/06/2011 8:20:29 AM PDT by tobyhill (Obama, The Biggest Thief In American History)
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To: RFEngineer

“That’s how this crazy gravy train works - rewarding dishonesty at every turn.”
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You are absolutely right and we should not be surprised when we get more of what we reward and less of what we punish as we punish hard work and productivity and reward sloth and cunning.


26 posted on 10/06/2011 3:32:48 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: Carry_Okie

“The easiest way to bring that number down is by means testing Social Security.”
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It may seem so but it would be punishing years of hard work by some to reward sloth by others. We don’t need more of that.

Personally, I think we are at the point described by Jerry Clower in his tale of the coon hunt, “Knock Him Out, John”. He tells of how Mr. John Eubanks would climb a tree and knock the Raccoon off the limb so that he would fall into a pack of as many as two dozen hound dogs. This was known as giving the coon a “sporting chance”. Clower said that at least the coon had the option of, “Whuppin’ every one o’ them dogs if he was of a mind to.” The nation has gone so far down the road to socialism that we have as much chance of solving our financial problems as that Raccoon would have of beating two dozen hound dogs.

A great nation may once again arise on the soil where the United States of America stood and it may be called by the same name but it will not be in the near future. I an 67 and in generally sound health but I don’t expect to live that long.


27 posted on 10/06/2011 3:59:22 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: RipSawyer
It may seem so but it would be punishing years of hard work by some to reward sloth by others. We don’t need more of that.

Those who did that hard work bought the lie and voted accordingly. Accountability is rough, but reforming entitlements is where this must begin. It's going to cost. Between my wife and I, we paid $20,000 a year into Social Security and don't expect to see a dime.

The nation has gone so far down the road to socialism that we have as much chance of solving our financial problems as that Raccoon would have of beating two dozen hound dogs.

So immediately after not budging an inch, you give up because "It's hopeless."

Coward. Then you follow with a hand wave.

A great nation may once again arise on the soil where the United States of America stood

So your solution is to kill people or just watch them die? You sure give up easily on the last best hope for humanity.

I an 67 and in generally sound health but I don’t expect to live that long.

I guess you give up easily because you care only about yourself. No wonder we're in this deep. I have two great kids who will live that long thank you. Start by means testing and raising the retirement age. Privatize the system for those under forty. That's reality.

28 posted on 10/06/2011 4:21:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Carry_Okie

Okay, that’s reality, good luck making it happen.


29 posted on 10/06/2011 5:48:20 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: silverleaf

We’re not talking about tax abatement. We’re talking about buying politicians with donations that sure look like bribes.


30 posted on 10/06/2011 5:50:54 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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