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Judge: Americans have no right to choose food
WND ^ | 10 6 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/06/2011 5:05:22 AM PDT by tutstar

A Wisconsin judge has decided – in a fight over families' access to milk from cows they own – that Americans "do not have a fundamental right to consume the milk from their own cow."

The ruling comes from Circuit Court Judge Patrick J. Fiedler in a court fight involving a number of families who owned their own cows, but boarded them on a single farm.

The judge said that's a "dairy farm" and is subject to the rules and regulations of the state of Wisconsin.

"It's always a surprise when a judge says you don't have the fundamental right to consume the foods of your choice," said Pete Kennedy, president of the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund, which worked on the case on behalf of the farmers and the owners of the milk-producing cows.

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He continued, "The judge said people have no fundamental right to acquire, possess and use your own property."

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1 posted on 10/06/2011 5:05:28 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: LucyT; BP2; rxsid; null and void; Candor7

ping


2 posted on 10/06/2011 5:06:08 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: tutstar

who the hell are these people? and how do they get elected and/or appointed? this judge needs to be run out of town on a rail


3 posted on 10/06/2011 5:10:25 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Project Gunwalker, this will make watergate look like the warm up band......)
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To: tutstar
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
~ C. S. Lewis
4 posted on 10/06/2011 5:10:25 AM PDT by Westbrook
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To: tutstar
The US is slowing going full circle. Not only don't you have the right to your own property and food, you will soon not be able to do anything without permission. That is called slavery.
5 posted on 10/06/2011 5:12:17 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: tutstar

This nation is being stolen from the vision of the Founding Fathers, from current and future generations of citizens, by a corrupt political and judiciary class, abetted by a dishonest media and academia.


6 posted on 10/06/2011 5:12:50 AM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: tutstar

Let me see if I understand this whole “choice” thing... a woman can choose to kill her baby but she can’t choose to drink milk from her own cow?! Okay... I get it now. /s


7 posted on 10/06/2011 5:14:30 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: tutstar

Evidently, this turd has never read the Constitution of The United States.

Perhaps this individual needs to learn first hand what Thomas Jefferson was talking about when he said: “God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.”

We are coming to the point where we need to reassert our primacy over the government.


8 posted on 10/06/2011 5:16:33 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: tutstar

Just another black robed terrorists. It’s time these “judges” wear the title they so richly deserve. http://www.blackrobedterrorists.com


9 posted on 10/06/2011 5:17:17 AM PDT by government is the beast (In the last century, an estimated 262 million people have been murderd by their own government)
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To: tutstar

This is a hill I would be willing to die/kill on.


10 posted on 10/06/2011 5:18:39 AM PDT by waterhill (Proud Capitolist!)
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To: tutstar

These judges and their infinite wisdom, these unions and their infinite wisdom, these occupy protestors and their lack of wisdom are going to bring this country to the brink. They are going to get the revolution they are calling for, unfortuinately I b elieve it is not going to be a bloodless revolution, it is going to make the Civil War look civil.

I feel for our children. If this happens we are going to be looked back at as the worst generation the world has known. Unbelievable what these liberals have done/ are doing.


11 posted on 10/06/2011 5:18:39 AM PDT by bbernard
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To: tutstar

This doesn’t surprise me in the least.


12 posted on 10/06/2011 5:19:25 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: tutstar
A socialist ruling! You mean I have no right to consume the food I bought from the market? Quelle horreur! This country is trashing free market protections at a time other countries are trying to strengthen their free markets!
13 posted on 10/06/2011 5:20:48 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tutstar
“Over the course of the last several years this feeling just got bigger and bigger that I wanted to go back to being an advocate..."

From an article on madison.com: "County judge Patrick Fiedler to step down after almost 18 years

Sounds like he's doing a pretty good job of advocating right where he is.

14 posted on 10/06/2011 5:21:09 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only option now is mass resistance.)
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To: tutstar

Considering that most people have birth certs and social security numbers does make you a slave of the state capitols and the District of Criminals.


15 posted on 10/06/2011 5:22:21 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: tutstar

This takes us right back to FDR,where they didn’t let farmers grow their own food without regulation and forced people to buy the next available chicken at the butcher shop. Americans had to fight back with votes then, and we will have to do so now.


16 posted on 10/06/2011 5:23:35 AM PDT by jdsteel (Cain vs. Not Able)
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To: tutstar

Bill of Rights:

Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Amendment X

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The judge is so very, very wrong.............


17 posted on 10/06/2011 5:24:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: tutstar

He may be right—I may be crazy —But it just might be a lunatic you’re lookin’ for” As the old hippy lust song put it. If the Judge is right then it seems right Americans do have a Constitutional right to IMPEACH. We also have a fundamental right to resist tyranny -for to do so is obedience to God.As Franklin so appropriated from other Patriots.


18 posted on 10/06/2011 5:24:49 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: joe fonebone

....to the nearest tall tree.........


19 posted on 10/06/2011 5:26:13 AM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: tutstar

It was once said about Germany “That which is not permitted is forbidden,” and about the United States, “That which is not forbidden is permitted.” No longer.

The presumption of many judges in regulatory matters is one of presumed guilt, not innocence. There are so many rules now, that you must be breaking one if you don’t have positive permission for whatever it is you are doing. This judge exemplifies that attitude. He assumes that you can’t do something because there is no enumerated right allowing you to, rather than taking the Founder’s position that the government’s powers were to be few and enumerated.


20 posted on 10/06/2011 5:29:07 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: StonyBurk

>>As the old hippy lust song put it.<<

Hippy? That was Billy Joel in 1980.
Hippies were in the 60’s.


21 posted on 10/06/2011 5:29:18 AM PDT by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: StonyBurk

Is there provision in Wisconsin law to recall or impeach this goof?


22 posted on 10/06/2011 5:29:29 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: tutstar
There are two kinds of societies:
Everything is allowed which is not expressly forbidden.
versus
Everything is forbidden which is not expressly allowed.

USA used to be the first kind, heading to the second.

Can I have a permit for my next breath, please?

23 posted on 10/06/2011 5:32:49 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Westbrook

Dang but Mr. Lewis had it right. Sadly, that is exactly what America is becoming under the ‘rat/socialists.


24 posted on 10/06/2011 5:39:11 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: tutstar

An interesting side note, milk was originally pasteurized to prevent brucellosis for one thing. However in the Yellowstone area judges are upholding the right of the federal government and environmentalists to keep the disease alive and well and allow infected animals access to private property. There have been 17 brucellosis outbreaks in privately owned livestock in the area since 2004, and a number of entire cattle herds destroyed when they became infected. It had been about 20 years prior to that since cattle had been infected thanks to vaccination. The herds that have been infected were also vaccinated.


25 posted on 10/06/2011 5:43:23 AM PDT by midwyf (Wyoming Native. Environmentalism is a religion too.)
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To: tutstar

When did we choose government by black-robed tyrants?


26 posted on 10/06/2011 5:44:38 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Westbrook

Good quote. I’ve searched but I can’t find where (book, speech,...) this is from. Do you, by any chance, have it? (I seem to be on a C.S. Lewis reading spree ATM.)


27 posted on 10/06/2011 5:49:58 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: tutstar

Insanity is running rampant!


28 posted on 10/06/2011 5:52:19 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: tutstar

What was that new farming regulation that outlawed growing your own food? Many people laughed at that idea...but this ruling seems awful darn close...


29 posted on 10/06/2011 5:53:06 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: tutstar
"The judge said people have no fundamental right to acquire, possess and use your own property."

Government is instituted to protect property of every sort; as well that which lies in the various rights of individuals, as that which the term particularly expresses. This being the end of government, that alone is a just government, which impartially secures to every man, whatever is his own.
James Madison's Essay on Property (1792)

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Is it time..... YET?

30 posted on 10/06/2011 5:55:00 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am ~Person~ as created by the Law of Nature, not a 'person' as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Jonty30

Jonty30, it doesn’t surprise me either. If government has the right to tell people what to eat, it also has the right to tell them what NOT to eat. Justice Kagan would no doubt uphold this ruling in an appeal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea5Zgrn5hsI

Watch it and weep for our country.


31 posted on 10/06/2011 5:55:46 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: StonyBurk
Many look to the Constitution seeking that Right to resist, but it is not there. The Right to resist is found in the Declaration of Independence.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

32 posted on 10/06/2011 5:58:14 AM PDT by EBH (God Humbles Nations, Leaders, and Peoples before He uses them for His Purpose)
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To: tutstar

As usual, WND is distorting the ruling and the meaining. The ruling can be found here:

http://www.thecompletepatient.com/storage/WIruling-Craig-Zinniker.pdf

This is a summary judgment ruling. It says the case goes to trial because there are TWO sides to the issue.

The ruling specifically says that someone who owns a cow and sells the milk can drink the milk directly from the cow if they wish, as can their family.

However, the state is arguing that the arrangement made is a sham, designed to allow the sale of raw milk to the public. The ruling does not agree with that description, but says it needs to go to court to see if it is true or not.


33 posted on 10/06/2011 5:58:30 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: tutstar

Ping for later


34 posted on 10/06/2011 6:00:10 AM PDT by wyokostur
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To: tutstar

Ping for later


35 posted on 10/06/2011 6:00:10 AM PDT by wyokostur
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To: Jonty30

This is the prevailing mindset of the left - only the elite are capable of making their own decisions, and they therefore have the obligation to make YOUR decisions for you.

The more this mindset is exposed, the quicker we can purge it from our society.


36 posted on 10/06/2011 6:03:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: tutstar

Lawyers are the commissars of American Socialism; judges are its Party Secretaries.


37 posted on 10/06/2011 6:05:11 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: tutstar; Drumbo

Unfreakingbelieveable.

Judge needs an American understanding of the 9th & 10th Amendments.


38 posted on 10/06/2011 6:08:50 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: CitizenUSA

This case is NOT about what a person has the right to eat, but what a person has the right to sell. Please don’t read WND & think you are getting an honest report.

This is a summary judgment. That means the facts in the case are in dispute, and must therefor go to trial. The plaintiffs argue they are not selling raw milk. The state says they are, and have denied them a business license. The facts are in dispute, so it needs to go to trial.

That is all this ruling says.


39 posted on 10/06/2011 6:13:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Mr Rogers

Here is the fix for “legislate from the bench” judges:

1. Tree
2. Rope
3. Assembly required
4. Repeat
5. Problem solved


40 posted on 10/06/2011 6:17:30 AM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: tutstar

The judge is on solid ground.
Try mining coal on your own land and see what happens...


41 posted on 10/06/2011 6:17:50 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: MrB

you’ll find it’s an indication that something might be Satanic in nature when it involves an elite making decisions for everybody else.


42 posted on 10/06/2011 6:19:08 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: waterhill

And yet, not even mere impeachment proceedings have started.

“All evil needs to triumph is for good men to do nothing.”


43 posted on 10/06/2011 6:23:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Jonty30

Indeed... once I got my “new eyes” about 6 years ago, everything makes a lot more sense.

And, the first sin WAS based in pride and elitism.
“you can be gods”


44 posted on 10/06/2011 6:23:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: joe fonebone
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” ― Abraham Lincoln
45 posted on 10/06/2011 6:25:02 AM PDT by clyde260 (Public Enemy #1: Network News!)
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To: tutstar

See: Rail, run out on a


46 posted on 10/06/2011 6:29:51 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Things are so bad now, Kenyans are saying Obama was born in the USA.)
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To: Howie66
Oh, we are far past 'culling the herd' in this country. At our core, human beings are still animals, and when cornered, will still fight and kill to put down the opressing force.

The corner is getting tighter everyday.

47 posted on 10/06/2011 6:30:05 AM PDT by Fedupwithit ("Live free or Die: Death is not the worst of evils" - Gen. John Stark)
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To: Mr Rogers

How dare you confuse this eruption of outrage with actual facts!

I was going to post the same thing, but luckily I read all the posts and realize you were already doing so.

As you say, WND seems to do this a LOT.


48 posted on 10/06/2011 6:32:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: waterhill

“This is a hill I would be willing to die/kill on”

Yes, this had better get overturned on appeal, or, as far as I’m concerned, the government will have voided that whole “social contract”, and I won’t feel bound to hold up my end anymore.


49 posted on 10/06/2011 6:33:14 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Hadn’t seen you reply or be pinged to this yet. You have a real nutty judge there.


50 posted on 10/06/2011 6:42:13 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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