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Judge: Americans have no right to choose food
WND ^ | 10 6 2011 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/06/2011 5:05:22 AM PDT by tutstar

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To: StonyBurk

You mean I sang a “hippy lust” song at karaoke last night? LOL

Has anyone told Billy Joel about this?


51 posted on 10/06/2011 6:45:20 AM PDT by MortMan (What disease did cured ham used to have?)
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To: tutstar

Wow....just.....WOW!

Is that for real, or is it the punchline to some joke about married sex?


52 posted on 10/06/2011 6:54:54 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tutstar; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; auggy; ...
END TIMES PING LIST PING.

The NWO folks strike again.

What hideousness!

Along with being stupidly suicidally WRONG as a nation and culture. What traitorous leaders they've shoehorned in on us.

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53 posted on 10/06/2011 6:57:31 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: tutstar

Its a natural extension of Kelo


54 posted on 10/06/2011 7:00:17 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 - 35)
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To: Westbrook

Libs would call C.S. Lewis a racist.


55 posted on 10/06/2011 7:00:51 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Mr Rogers
Nice try.
Speak louder next time.
56 posted on 10/06/2011 7:08:52 AM PDT by stormhill
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To: tutstar

Civil disobediance time!
These farmers should take all the milk they can get their hands on and dump it on the courthouse steps daily while chanting for impeachment of this so called judge. Don’t stop until he is forced out.


57 posted on 10/06/2011 7:11:20 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ((Most leftism can be traced to childhood birthday trauma))
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To: Red Badger

If I understand things correctly, this is a state law and the state police power that is being discussed. I´m unfamiliar with the relevant state constitution, but it´s entirely possible that the judge is correct.

That doesn´t mean that the law is not ridiculous and paternalistic of course.


58 posted on 10/06/2011 7:13:38 AM PDT by globelamp
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To: Mr Rogers

Actually the court DID say that the rights of the plaintiffs to own their cow, enter into a contract to board a cow, etc., all of which the plaintiffs claimed to be “fundamental” rights — the term “fundamental” being a key term — are not in fact fundamental rights.

Therefore, in determining the constitutionality of the laws of Wisconsin regulating milk production that the plaintiffs are challenging, the courts will apply a “minimal scrutiny” standard of review.

You could make very similar arguments the plaintiffs are making here about running a marijuana farm or coca field — or even a meth lab — that they have a fundamental right to “grow their own”.

This decision, at least up to the point where the Judge ruled on the question of fundamental rights, which is where I stopped, is NOT activist at all. It is pretty much “turn the crank” legal reasoning.


59 posted on 10/06/2011 7:23:42 AM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: tutstar

Wow. Just wow.


60 posted on 10/06/2011 7:23:45 AM PDT by null and void (Day 988 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: BitWielder1

Three:
If it’s not forbidden, it’s required...


61 posted on 10/06/2011 7:26:48 AM PDT by null and void (Day 988 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Westbrook

Good word.


62 posted on 10/06/2011 7:28:10 AM PDT by bearsgirl90
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To: bearsgirl90

The best word to describe the actions of leftists is

“arrogate”


63 posted on 10/06/2011 7:30:26 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: MrB

This is how the Ukrainian “famine” started.


64 posted on 10/06/2011 7:35:23 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: massgopguy

I have no doubt they’d love to repeat that here.
Bill Ayers even said that 10% of the population would have to be eliminated because they wouldn’t accept the communist society. He’s kind of a piker, Stalin was willing to go with 25% of the world’s population being purged in order that the remainder lived under the communist utopia.


65 posted on 10/06/2011 7:40:42 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: EBH

Very TRUE.And The Declaration of Independence ,like the Mayflower Compact, and the Articles of Confederation , and the Northwest Ordinance are listed as Organic Law/ Fundamental Law unless I am mistaken. And it seems Jefferson -for whatever reason changed the fundamental Rights of Life, Liberty , and Property to read Life ,Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.
Which has been sadly abused by the Pagans.


66 posted on 10/06/2011 7:41:10 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: tutstar
Circuit Court Judge Patrick J. Fiedler

I am making this particular judge a personal hobby of mine. I will really expend a lot of effort to see him removed from office.

67 posted on 10/06/2011 7:48:11 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Lazamataz" is a four-letter word.)
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To: Howie66

I am still looking for the sermon Jefferson borrowed that
Tree of Liberty ...and blood of Patriots and Tyrants from.
I read it once some years ago -and am looking for it again.


68 posted on 10/06/2011 7:51:02 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: tutstar

He’s up in 2017. Let us not forget.


69 posted on 10/06/2011 7:52:27 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Lazamataz" is a four-letter word.)
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To: StonyBurk

Please share it when you locate it, okay?

Thank you, in advance.


70 posted on 10/06/2011 7:59:25 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Threads like this are why I tend to read ALL the posts before I respond.

This precaution saves me a lot of embarrassment. I have to work a little harder to sound stupid.

71 posted on 10/06/2011 8:02:12 AM PDT by jonascord (Politicians should be pelted with human manure, weekly, to remind them of their worth to society.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

“down by the Green River ,where Paradise lay.— I’m sorry my son, but you’re too late in askin- Ol’Peabodys’ Coal train done hauled it away.”


72 posted on 10/06/2011 8:05:33 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: tutstar

The Judge is correct to the point that those who live in the United States have no rights. They have given them to the Government under the guise of being made to feel “secure”, “safety nets”, and convience. “Americans” have not given up any of their God given rights, but as the election of 2008 proved, there are more parasites than Americans.

The parasites are about to reap the fruit from the seeds they so gleefully sowed November 4, 2008. Unfortunately, the rest or us will also.


73 posted on 10/06/2011 8:09:09 AM PDT by sport
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


74 posted on 10/06/2011 8:26:57 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: tutstar

actually took this seriously until I saw it was from WND.


75 posted on 10/06/2011 8:33:06 AM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Howie66

Amen.


76 posted on 10/06/2011 8:56:50 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Lazamataz

Probably a moderately worthy task.

Along with hundreds of other such judges.

Sigh.

LUB BRO.


77 posted on 10/06/2011 9:10:20 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lazamataz; Alamo-Girl; Gamecock; 1000 silverlings

BTW,

as with abortionists and clinics . . .

I’m 100% convinced that the MOST POWERFUL such efforts are

group prayer and fasting . . . NOT necessarily in the same room at the same time . . . but a cluster of individuals PREFERABLY ACROSS DENOMINATIONAL LINES—earnestly praying and fasting for a righteous cause.


78 posted on 10/06/2011 9:12:42 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: tutstar; midwyf; EBH
"It's always a surprise when a judge says you don't have the fundamental right to consume the foods of your choice,"

Ah, Nothing better than farm fresh milk!

I've been looking for this picture for thirty five years! Finally found it!

79 posted on 10/06/2011 9:28:33 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Click my name. See my home page, if you dare! NEW PHOTOS & PAINTINGS)
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To: momtothree

yep that’s right


80 posted on 10/06/2011 9:33:10 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Westbrook

great quote!


81 posted on 10/06/2011 9:34:17 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: Truth29

That, my FRiend, is what the majority of those that voted on November 4, 2008, voted for. They demanded, via their votes, that the Government take possession and control over them. That is now happening.


82 posted on 10/06/2011 9:39:29 AM PDT by sport
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To: Lazamataz; Boogieman

“I will really expend a lot of effort to see him removed from office. “

Why? Because he says the facts are in dispute, so it must go to trial? Do you prefer judges to make rulings without listening to the facts, or to both sides of the case?

“Yes, this had better get overturned on appeal...”

Ummm...you cannot appeal something that hasn’t gone to trial. All this ruling says is that the case needs to go to trial so the relevant facts can be presented in a court of law.


83 posted on 10/06/2011 10:10:07 AM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: Travis McGee

Before I get trashed here, lets take an honest look at this...I understand the sentiments, and agree that this is extremely over the edge by a justice...

A part of me agrees with the judge that this is a “fundamental” issue, and they may be right according to the law of that state...

BUT...

We (including me) are absolutely right that this is more than a “fundamantal” right to consume food product YOU produce or “farm”...

This IS an absolutely “UNALIENABLE” right that is covered by an authority higher than anything instituted amoungst men...Very similar to your UNALIENABLE right to keep and bear arms as YOU see fit...And should not be infringed upon...

Bottom line...If you are not engaged in a criminal act that is considered to be a “man-act” (i.e.: murder, rape, kidnapping, etc etc etc) in my opinion, it should not be restricted, or regulated to an individual or the population in general, to conduct yourself in a lawful manner in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness as written down on some document I heard about when I was younger...

Someone may want to remind me what that document was...And then we need to send a copy to the idiot judge who made this ruling...

Somehow I just have to wonder how we ever got by without grocery stores, super-markets, Costco, Sam’s Warehouses, and WalMarts, before the government and our judicial system started inserting itself into our daily lives, our homes and our businesses...

I know the answer to that is simple...We got by with courage, preparedness and a tenacity to protect our lives, property and out happiness...

Something that is seriously lacking in a great majority of our countrymen and its elected officials these days...And there is not enough of us now to want to recoop or regain those freedoms...THAT WE WERE SO SUCCESSFUL IN LIVING IN A FREE’r EXISTANCE...

But what do I know, eh???


84 posted on 10/06/2011 10:10:28 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: ex91B10

HA! I think you’re right!


85 posted on 10/06/2011 10:11:13 AM PDT by tutstar
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To: tutstar
Who claimed that communism was dead? It's apparently alive and well in Wisconsin. I can't say what I really want to say about this commie judge, except I hope he get's run over by a bus.
86 posted on 10/06/2011 10:31:01 AM PDT by semaj
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you for the link. I’ll have to hold reading it until this evening, but I do appreciate the info.


87 posted on 10/06/2011 11:16:03 AM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: waterhill

“This is a hill I would be willing to die/kill on.”

Amen. This is a perfect example of Fascism — although it is (so far...) your property, they control what you do with it.


88 posted on 10/06/2011 11:31:09 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: ex91B10

And he’s a coward, to boot. He’s not going to defend his onerous decision. He’s going to run and hide with a pack of liberals.


89 posted on 10/06/2011 12:11:02 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Quix

I L-O-V-E love that picture of the skunk! Thanks!


90 posted on 10/06/2011 12:17:11 PM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: .30Carbine

You’re exceedingly welcome.

We have an abundance of the stinkers around here. And our blue healer 1-2 year old pup still thinks jousting with them is great sport. Slow learner in the smell dept evidently.

They love the grapes.


91 posted on 10/06/2011 12:50:09 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: momtothree

Don’t be too hard on yourself, that line of reasoning is so brilliant that I have a hard time understanding it myself. Maybe we need to go back to school and study modern logic. Let’s see now, if I am overweight I need to eat more ice cream and pound cake, does that sound about right?


92 posted on 10/06/2011 1:33:01 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: RipSawyer

“... if I am overweight I need to eat more ice cream and pound cake”.

Your making sense to me. I guess an alcoholic really needs to drink more booze, too. I have a friend who’s lactose intolerant. I think I’ll send over a gallon of milk to her! LOL!


93 posted on 10/06/2011 1:55:06 PM PDT by momtothree
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To: TexasRepublic

“This is a perfect example of Fascism — although it is (so far...) your property, they control what you do with it.”

It is a business that cannot get its license renewed because of activity that MAY be against state law.

Ever hear of zoning? Try building anything you want on your property, or conduct business in an area zoned for no commercial use.

Frankly, when I buy food, I like the idea that it has to meet some health standards. I have no desire to take my life in my hand every time I buy food in the supermarket.

Meanwhile, you need to realize that A) this case has NOT gone to court yet. This ruling merely says that there is enough of a dispute to justify a hearing. And B) the state is arguing that the ‘owners’ are not owners at all, and that the operation is a commercial dairy farm whose real owners are engaged in a “sham arrangement”.

When the case goes to court, one of the critical factors in the judgement will be if the ‘owners’ are really owners, or if this is fraud. Owners ARE allowed to drink milk right from the cow. DAIRY FARMS cannot sell it. What is really going on is a critical part of the case that WILL be heard WHEN it goes to court.


94 posted on 10/06/2011 2:56:50 PM PDT by Mr Rogers ("they found themselves made strangers in their own country")
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To: tutstar; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

I think this judge needs fatty chesseburgers and raw milk stuffed down his throat.

Nanny State PING!


95 posted on 10/06/2011 3:03:13 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (It's the Tea Party's fault!)
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To: Mr Rogers

Thank you for finding that. I’m always suspicious of paraphrases these days.


96 posted on 10/06/2011 3:06:41 PM PDT by Ellendra (God feeds the birds of the air, but he doesn't throw it in their nests.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Stung up from a lamppost, more like it..


97 posted on 10/06/2011 3:09:22 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: tutstar
Call me an animal if you wish, but I like the idea of eating this judge (preferrably in effigy).

It should be some dish based on offal - like menudo or haggis.

98 posted on 10/06/2011 4:45:17 PM PDT by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: tutstar
"the [Ninth Amendment's] refusal to 'deny or disparage' other rights is far removed from affirming any one of them, and even further removed from authorizing judges to identify what they might be, and to enforce the judges' list against laws duly enacted by the people" Antonin Scalia, Troxel v. Granville, 530 U.S. 57, 91 (2000)

In other words, judges can't just make up rights that aren't enumerated in the Constitution and use that to override laws made through normal means.

99 posted on 10/06/2011 4:58:20 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: tutstar

all the good wisconsin cows escaped to california.......... i saw it on tv


100 posted on 10/06/2011 5:01:03 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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