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Palin: Already Almost Forgotten (Double bag alert)
Frum Forum ^ | October 5th, 2011 | DAVID FRUM

Posted on 10/06/2011 8:46:17 AM PDT by Qbert

- “I will continue driving the discussion for freedom and free markets…”

- From Sarah Palin’s statement announcing her decision not to run for president.

Um, probably not. Sarah Palin’s political voice had dwindled well before she announced her decision not to run. Now it will sink altogether into inaudibility. She will be no kind of force in future national discussions. She will have no sway over party debates. She will retain some starpower for a little while longer. She may for another cycle or two be able to help certain candidates for certain political offices raise some money. Even that will fade within two more years or four. Her political career was brief, bizarre, and sordid. But now at least it is definitively finished.

Palin will never become a party elder stateswoman. Over the past three years, it became apparent to all but a handful of cultists that her only interests were money and celebrity. She had no concept of public service, and no capacity to serve even if she had wished to do so. Soon even those last cultists will quietly abandon the argument. We talk often these days about makers and takers. Sarah Palin was the ultimate taker. She abandoned her post as governor of Alaska to cash in on lectures and TV. She squeezed her supporters for political donations and spent the money on herself. To adapt an old phrase, she seen her opportunities and she took ‘em.

In the end, she exploited, abused, or embarrassed almost everyone who had believed in her. Most embarrassing of all: she was never even a very good con artist. Everything that was false and petty and unqualified in her was visible within the first minutes of encountering her. The people she fooled were people who passionately wished to be fooled. To that extent, what was important in her story was not the faults and failings of Sarah Palin. There have always been grifters in politics. What was important in her story was the revelation of conservatism’s lack of antibodies against somebody with the faults and failings of Sarah Palin. That’s the story that should trouble us still.


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KEYWORDS: backstabberfrum; bigotry; davidfrum; envy; frum4backstabber; norinos; notromney; palin
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"Sarah Palin’s political voice had dwindled well before she announced her decision not to run. Now it will sink altogether into inaudibility. She will be no kind of force in future national discussions. She will have no sway over party debates..."

So says the disgraced Pseudocon on a blog that almost nobody reads...

1 posted on 10/06/2011 8:46:25 AM PDT by Qbert
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To: Qbert
Boy it going to be funny to watch Frum's head explode when this comes back to bite his inorant butt.

Palin can influence more people in 5 minutes with a face book post then Frum can no matter how many years he writes for the Junk Media.

2 posted on 10/06/2011 8:48:04 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Qbert

gawd what a tough crowd.


3 posted on 10/06/2011 8:48:09 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Qbert

Whose’s endorsement does Frum think will matter most in the GOP Primary? His or Sarah Palin’s?

Game..set...match.


4 posted on 10/06/2011 8:49:25 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Qbert
At least her name is in the minds of more people than is yours, Frum. Perhaps there is a bit of jealousy there, eh Frum?
5 posted on 10/06/2011 8:49:38 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Qbert
Fee Fi Fo FRUM! I smell the blood of a limp-wristed, squishy, country club establishment momma's boy.

Hysterical, coming from someone who's long been forgotten and irrelevant.

Frum, hate to break it to you (not) ... Governor Palin will determine the GOP candidate by whomever she endorses.

6 posted on 10/06/2011 8:50:51 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Qbert
Which explains why several presidential candidates immediately contacted her for her endorsement.

Their hate is palpable.

7 posted on 10/06/2011 8:51:06 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: Qbert

Frum rhymes with scum.


8 posted on 10/06/2011 8:51:17 AM PDT by JaguarXKE
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To: Qbert

Frum is not even a RINO, he’s a liberal.


9 posted on 10/06/2011 8:51:39 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Army Air Corps

“At least her name is in the minds of more people than is yours, Frum. Perhaps there is a bit of jealousy there, eh Frum?”

Bingo.


10 posted on 10/06/2011 8:52:18 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

I haven’t counted Palin out. I won’t be surprised if all of a sudden she is running for Senator. And if Cain gets elected, I can see her as an appointee. If she had a law degree I’d make her Attorney General and watch the rats run.


11 posted on 10/06/2011 8:53:53 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Palin/Cain, Cain/West, Palin/ West, Cain /Palin, Palin/ Rubio, Cain/Rubio, = all good)
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To: Qbert

It's my turn next John, right?

12 posted on 10/06/2011 8:54:29 AM PDT by McGruff (Vetting - The process of examination and evaluation of a candidate's record.)
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To: Qbert

A few thoughts...
1. Game off.
2. I guess “our Sarah’s” eluctable after all
3. Something about Sun Tzu
4. Is “our Sarah” still living in their heads rent free 24/7 driving them crazy while she does it her way, or are they chrarging her rent while she does not drive them crazy and does not do it her way?
5. Is “our Sarah” still playing pan-dimensional chess while all others are playing checkers and soiling their diapers at the thought of her running?
6. Did I mention Sun Tzu?


13 posted on 10/06/2011 8:54:43 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Qbert

“Palin: Already Almost Forgotten (Double bag alert)”

“First time I have ever seen “Palin” and “double bag” in the same sentence.


14 posted on 10/06/2011 8:55:05 AM PDT by jessduntno (Obama shanks. America tanks.)
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To: Qbert
Frum is still scared of her.
15 posted on 10/06/2011 8:55:31 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Qbert

This could have been written by some Freepers...not much difference from some of the responses I see on this forum.


16 posted on 10/06/2011 8:56:21 AM PDT by halo66
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To: Qbert; Lazamataz

I’m somewhat agreeable to Frum’s position.

We should put Gov. Palin aside ^^as a POTUS Candidate^^ but, reality says we need to listen to her public statements regarding support, debate analysis, etc.

Let’s see who she decides to “get behind” (that one is for you Laz!). She has indicated that her role includes (for lack of a better term) “king maker”.

Let’s see what develops.


17 posted on 10/06/2011 8:57:00 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations - The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Qbert

Frum is an idiot who belongs in the Democratic party..

But I agree with one part of what he said... she took her supporters all the way into October and then just dropped it like our support didn’t matter.


18 posted on 10/06/2011 8:57:57 AM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: Qbert

Sad thing is, Frum is neither man enough nor conservative enough to admit he’s wrong when Palin starts influencing outcomes of elections again.


19 posted on 10/06/2011 8:58:34 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: Qbert

And if Palin’s political voice dwindles another 50 or 60 per cent or so, she’ll be like, on par with the likes of David Frum!


20 posted on 10/06/2011 8:59:09 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: Bringbackthedraft

“I haven’t counted Palin out. I won’t be surprised if all of a sudden she is running for Senator.”

Yep.


21 posted on 10/06/2011 8:59:55 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Are you predicting she won’t be able to influence elections?


22 posted on 10/06/2011 9:00:09 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: Qbert

Dream on boy. Sarah can and will be doing more damage to the leftist’s causes then if she were in the WH.

She has too many qualities that all sane American citizens love and want back in their lives.


23 posted on 10/06/2011 9:00:26 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Palin can influence more people in 5 minutes

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My question is pretty straightforwrd. Do you think that will continue to be the case now that she is officially out of the race for 2012. It is at least (I think) a useful question to ponder. Was her influence to the world at large based on the likelihood of her entering the race (fire in the belly, I know I could win), and will that influence and interest wane now.

I don’t know.


24 posted on 10/06/2011 9:01:21 AM PDT by dmz
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To: Qbert

Dave, if this was it, if last night ended all that Sarah Palin ever has done or ever will do for conservatism, if I have to put that up against everything you have done or will ever do for conservatism and pass verdict on who’s done more and better for the movement...that’s a no-brainer. It’s not you.

You stay classy, Dave.


25 posted on 10/06/2011 9:01:43 AM PDT by RichInOC (TBA 2012.)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
But I agree with one part of what he said... she took her supporters all the way into October and then just dropped it like our support didn’t matter.

Yep.

26 posted on 10/06/2011 9:01:56 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: Qbert

I’ve never heard of this clown Frum. What is he, spokesman for the Metrosexual wing of the GOP?


27 posted on 10/06/2011 9:02:04 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: reasonisfaith

I’d have to consult Sun Tzu...


28 posted on 10/06/2011 9:03:31 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Doctor 2Brains
LOL @ "game off".

Wonder if she'll still pursue lawsuit vs. McGinnis and his publisher?

29 posted on 10/06/2011 9:03:51 AM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Sarah, & Levin do.)
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To: reasonisfaith
I really wish some of the more distressed Palin supporters would take a deep breath, step away and look at the big picture.

One person in the White House is not going to correct 40 to 50 years of creeping liberalism. This country needs a ground up transformation. The organizing 4 efforts now should, for the most part, have an infrastructure in place to begin to effect (or is it affect?) elections at the local and state level.

That is where our Republic is going to be saved. Not from the Washington top down.

30 posted on 10/06/2011 9:05:01 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: Qbert

I am sure there are alot here who will agree with him, sadly.

She’s not done by a long shot.


31 posted on 10/06/2011 9:05:29 AM PDT by waterhill (Proud Capitolist!)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

“...I agree with one part of what he said... she took her supporters all the way into October and then just dropped it like our support didn’t matter.”

I seriously doubt this will be end of her political career. (Remember Reagan supporters after ‘68 and ‘76?)


32 posted on 10/06/2011 9:05:36 AM PDT by Qbert ("The best defense against usurpatory government is an assertive citizenry" - William F. Buckley, Jr.)
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To: Qbert

To any idiot who thinks Palin’s influence is nil, consider such scenarios as this:

She comes out and flatly states Romney is wrong for the country and would portend disaster, and will do everything in her power to prevent his nomination.

She comes out and flatly states Perry is wrong for the country and should not be elected under any circumstances, and will do everything in her power to prevent his nomination.

She comes out and flatly states Cain is wrong for the country and lacks experience, and will do everything in her power to prevent his nomination.

Although endorsements don’t really mean much (especially to free-thinking conservatives), I would contend that she still has the power to deep-six any candidate she chooses. Not that I’m remotely expecting these scenarios. But Frum is a total idiot. Besides also being a worthless POS.


33 posted on 10/06/2011 9:08:29 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Qbert

Does David Frum’s life-partner know he’s playing on the Internet today?


34 posted on 10/06/2011 9:09:13 AM PDT by avacado
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To: Doctor 2Brains

That’s fine and good. And if you’re a liberal you will take the Jon Stewart-like tactic of using sarcasm to hide from taking a sincere stand.

I’m not accusing of being a liberal, though I can’t know for sure. But what I say here about hiding from sincerity will separate a true conservative from a liberal.


35 posted on 10/06/2011 9:10:37 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: Qbert
Call me a masochist, but I actually spent some time lurking at Democratic Underground last night to see what they made of Palin's decision. Had they minded their manners, what they wrote would have been not unlike what Mr. Frum wrote. Had he not been a residual observer of Reagan's 11th Commandment, I wonder how well he would have fit in there.

"Thine enemy's enemy..."

36 posted on 10/06/2011 9:11:16 AM PDT by danielmryan
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To: reasonisfaith

Okay, you’ve been civil, I’ll be civil. I doubt if she’ll have a large influence, but I sure wouldn’t bet on being correct. Who’s to know?


37 posted on 10/06/2011 9:13:01 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: Qbert

Largely agree as to her diminished stature, but come on, Frum. I don’t know her motivations and couldn’t care less. You shouldn’t either. You sound like one of those people hell hath no fury like.


38 posted on 10/06/2011 9:16:39 AM PDT by Lady Lucky ( Patriots have always put country first.)
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39 posted on 10/06/2011 9:18:10 AM PDT by Lady Lucky ( Patriots have always put country first.)
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yeah, just like Reagan faded.


40 posted on 10/06/2011 9:18:24 AM PDT by Lauren BaRecall (Boehner, you deal making THUG B@st@rd!)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

Copying and pasting your stupid posts from yesterday I see.


41 posted on 10/06/2011 9:18:24 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: Qbert

Obviously the PDS a$$hats that contaminate FR have helped this lib whack-job write his slop.


42 posted on 10/06/2011 9:19:33 AM PDT by Gator113
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To: Qbert

Frum obviously hasn’t forgotten her since he’s writing another column about her. His disproves his own thesis....more PDS combined with wishful thinking.


43 posted on 10/06/2011 9:20:10 AM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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The big frummy said, “There have always been grifters in politics”


Totally agree.
The biggest grifter is currently President of the US.
Mrs Palin was merely considering a run.
Oh, wait, did he mean Palin, and not Obama, was one of those grifters???


44 posted on 10/06/2011 9:20:50 AM PDT by Leep
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To: Aria

Boy! I sure can’t fool you. Hey, am I livin’ in your head 24/7 rent free?

Remember, all warfare is based on deception! Ahh so.


45 posted on 10/06/2011 9:21:17 AM PDT by Doctor 2Brains (If the government were Paris Hilton, it could not score a free drink in a bar full of lonely sailors)
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To: MNJohnnie
Game..set...match.

We lose.

46 posted on 10/06/2011 9:22:03 AM PDT by onedoug (If)
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To: Doctor 2Brains

If the political power she had in 2010 proves to be intact over the next few months, your post #13 is going to look silly.


47 posted on 10/06/2011 9:25:03 AM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: Qbert
Have you given any thought to the possibility that Palin doesn't want a political career? After all, she just declined one.
48 posted on 10/06/2011 9:25:56 AM PDT by Lady Lucky ( Patriots have always put country first.)
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To: onedoug

You really want to try and argue Frum’s endorsement would mean more then Palin’s in the GOP Primary or the General Election?


49 posted on 10/06/2011 9:26:23 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative
she took her supporters all the way into October and then just dropped it like our support didn’t matter.

Well, Frum is a complete idiot and of course Sarah will continue having some influence in the party. Her endorsements will matter in a lot of races and I saw that the remaining candidates are calling her already. Saying that, Palin teased this "will I or won't I run" campaign out way, way too long. Now that she has shocked her supporters and declined to run, I think many of them are going to be feel burned and used for a long time to come. Her approach to this whole thing was not very good, she should have made her intentions more clear to her followers a long time ago and avoided this whole nasty episode.

50 posted on 10/06/2011 9:26:23 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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