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Reid's ‘nuclear option’ changes rules, ends repeat filibusters
The Hill ^ | October 6, 2011 | Alexander Bolton

Posted on 10/06/2011 4:42:43 PM PDT by jazusamo

In a shock development Thursday evening, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) triggered a rarely-used procedural option informally called the “nuclear option” to change the Senate rules.

The surprise move stunned Republicans, who did not expect Reid to bring heavy artillery to what had appeared to have been a hum-drum legislative knife fight.

Reid appealed a ruling from the chair that Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) does not need consent to force a vote on a motion to suspend the rules to consider an amendment after cloture has already been approved.

The maneuver is highly arcane but momentous. If a simple majority of the Senate votes to uphold Reid’s appeal, the Senate’s rules will have been changed by the unilateral action of one party.

Republicans had considered using this maneuver, dubbed the “nuclear option” in 2005, to change Senate rules to prohibit the filibuster of judicial nominees. Democrats decried the plan and the crisis was resolved by a bipartisan agreement forged by 14 rank-and-file senators known as the Gang of 14.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: dingyharry; donothingsenate; filibusters; fuhr; harryreid; kentucky; mitchmcconnell; nevada; nuclearoption; onepartyrule; reid; ussenate
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Not too much of a surprise from obama's lapdog Dingy Harry.
1 posted on 10/06/2011 4:42:49 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Gee, where are McCain and Graham? Weren’t they the instigators for the “gang of 14”?


2 posted on 10/06/2011 4:46:18 PM PDT by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: jazusamo

Popcorn


3 posted on 10/06/2011 4:46:23 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: jazusamo

IMO, the seeds of the coming revolution are starting to sprout.

It’s just a matter of time.


4 posted on 10/06/2011 4:47:08 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Congress - Another name for white collar criminals!!)
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To: jazusamo
According to my copy of the Constitution, Congress (both houses) decides their own rules.

It my be hypocritical on the part of the dems, but it's within bounds.

/johnny

5 posted on 10/06/2011 4:50:17 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

Looks like we will have a filibuster proof repub senate in 2012.

Woooooo!


6 posted on 10/06/2011 4:51:04 PM PDT by Bobalu (More rubble, less trouble)
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To: jazusamo

I guess he won’t complain when conservatives take the Senate and use the same rule then?


7 posted on 10/06/2011 4:52:12 PM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I believe you’re correct. The Rats better understand what goes around comes around.


8 posted on 10/06/2011 4:52:32 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

Please bump the Freepathon or click above and donate or become a monthly donor!

9 posted on 10/06/2011 4:53:12 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: jazusamo

He does this just as gop was forcing embarrassing vote on jobs bill.


10 posted on 10/06/2011 4:53:58 PM PDT by Crawdad
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To: jazusamo

Perhaps Harry has finally completely flipped out.


11 posted on 10/06/2011 4:55:43 PM PDT by resistance (abandon all hope and rational thought, become a democrat)
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To: jazusamo
Reach across the isle to the Democrats under Dingy Harry, and you will find a bloody stump where your hand used to be.
12 posted on 10/06/2011 4:55:51 PM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: jazusamo

Mark Levin talking about this now on his show.


13 posted on 10/06/2011 4:56:30 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: jazusamo
And yet, McConnell will still try to reach across the aisle the next time, and the time after that, and the time after that.

-PJ

14 posted on 10/06/2011 4:56:46 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: jazusamo
Never underestimate the power of Senate Republicans to look 'statesmanlike' and cave. They make idiot-proof an oxymoron. They couldn't pour sand out of a boot with instructions written on the heel.

If you add all their IQ's together, you might reach room temperature.

Robert Byrd is the current senator making the most sense, and he's been in the grave for a year.

Not that I have anything against the US Congress.

Stupid barstids.

/johnny

15 posted on 10/06/2011 4:56:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

I don’t see what is so surprising.

Republicans are idiots.

Democrats make all these rules that only republicans have to follow.

And republicans obey.

Go figure.


16 posted on 10/06/2011 4:56:56 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: jazusamo
"The Rats better understand what goes around comes around."

Really?

When has The Stupid Party EVER acted like it had a collective set of balls?

17 posted on 10/06/2011 4:57:03 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: DustyMoment

I am starting to see it that way.


18 posted on 10/06/2011 4:57:20 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: jazusamo
I believe you’re correct. The Rats better understand what goes around comes around.

Mitch McConnel only need say one word in the Senate: RECIPROCITY!
19 posted on 10/06/2011 4:57:34 PM PDT by rottndog (Be Prepared for what's coming AFTER America....)
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To: jazusamo

Loving it!!!! Simple majority rules in the Senate now. Will be great once the GOP regains the Senate. in the meantime, it means nothing to the Dems since they do not control the House. Has to be one of the dumbest moves they ever made.


20 posted on 10/06/2011 4:57:58 PM PDT by VinceASA
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To: Crawdad

Obama forced them to do this with his ill-advised press conference today.

Bamster’s jobs act was getting deep sixed by DEMOCRATS. it would have
never got 60 votes. Even with Scott Brown, and the two Maine Senators.

Now they only need 50. Plus Biden.

So all the Dems who are on the hook to lose: McCaskill, Ben Nelson,
Bill Nelson, plus Mary Landrieu, Lieberman, can vote no.

It’s still an uphill fight for 50 by my math.


21 posted on 10/06/2011 4:59:00 PM PDT by preamble
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To: diogenes ghost
When has The Stupid Party EVER acted like it had a collective set of balls?

Oh, they have 'em. And a complete set of brains, along with a spine. But they can't remember which member's locker they are in.

/johnny

22 posted on 10/06/2011 4:59:30 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Political Junkie Too
And yet, McConnell will still try to reach across the aisle the next time, and the time after that, and the time after that.

They are ALL part of the same Good Old Boys Club,hanging on to power and looting the treasury in the process. It is in the history of all nations sooner or later. Our job...STOP THEM! If not..The Dark Ages return.

23 posted on 10/06/2011 5:01:30 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: VinceASA
Hey Dingy, Can you change the rules that the house Doesn't also have to pass the bill.

The GOP Senate is more liberal than the house.

24 posted on 10/06/2011 5:01:34 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: JRandomFreeper

The GOP senators did not cave, Reid acted unilaterally


25 posted on 10/06/2011 5:01:34 PM PDT by Tea Party Terrorist (Yes)
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To: diogenes ghost
If this doesn't start a surge of testosterone nothing will, perhaps this is what they needed.
26 posted on 10/06/2011 5:01:59 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
The GOP senators did not cave,

Give 'em some time. They are more predictable than sunrise.

/johnny

27 posted on 10/06/2011 5:03:00 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

So we will only need 51 votes to kill obamacare in 2013?


28 posted on 10/06/2011 5:03:04 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: Tea Party Terrorist
Because Reid knows the Republicans will cave eventually.

-PJ

29 posted on 10/06/2011 5:03:25 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: jazusamo
Levin now covering with Senator DeMint explaining that this will prevent minority from offering amendments, calling for votes, etc. Some RINO's went with the Rats to pass this.
30 posted on 10/06/2011 5:03:43 PM PDT by CedarDave (My Sarah prediction: Announcing for President between October 12 and 28.)
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To: DustyMoment

You have spoken the truth friend


31 posted on 10/06/2011 5:04:46 PM PDT by The Bishop
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To: jazusamo

RINOS...frickin RINOs voted with socialist puke dems to make this happen! Demint is speaking to Levin about it now!


32 posted on 10/06/2011 5:05:29 PM PDT by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)
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To: jazusamo; LucyT; Bikkuri; faucetman; ColdOne; wintertime; Fred Nerks; null and void; PhilDragoo; ...
Nuke Ping................

Reid triggers nuclear option to change rules, prohibit filibusters<

Piling on the Communist "revolution" in the streets!!!

33 posted on 10/06/2011 5:06:45 PM PDT by melancholy (0b0z0's '12 campaign slogan: Read My Lips, Nooo...Newwww...Joooobs.)
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To: blasater1960

Levin is holding DeMint over to the start of the next hour to discuss it further.


34 posted on 10/06/2011 5:07:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (My Sarah prediction: Announcing for President between October 12 and 28.)
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To: jazusamo

Which RINOs voted for this???


35 posted on 10/06/2011 5:07:36 PM PDT by jch10 (I stand with Herman Cain)
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To: jazusamo

I can’t stand democrats but they sure now how to be in politics. They are dirty....but get things done. I am serious that Republicans are WEAK!!!!! This is a brilliant move. Republicans would never do this.


36 posted on 10/06/2011 5:08:25 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: jazusamo

What’s the difference, America is gone anyway. The coming insurrection will take care of the rest.


37 posted on 10/06/2011 5:08:47 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: jazusamo

I wonder if the House of Representatives can defund the Senate.


38 posted on 10/06/2011 5:08:57 PM PDT by Razzz42
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To: jazusamo

He will roo the day he did this........


39 posted on 10/06/2011 5:09:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
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To: jazusamo

Is this for a specific bill or the entire session?


40 posted on 10/06/2011 5:09:55 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX. Remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: preamble
Yes but it also has to pass the House, or will is be "deemed" as passed...

This is a Fluster Cluck, it could start in the Senate and go nowhere IMHO...

41 posted on 10/06/2011 5:11:16 PM PDT by taildragger (( Palin / Mulally 2012 ))
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To: jazusamo

On the heels of NC Gov Purdue’s comments about canceling elections this is really showing us what the Dems are made of. Wonder if there will be 6 or 7 Dem Senators who will go against their “leader?”


42 posted on 10/06/2011 5:12:14 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Only problem. When the stupid party is back in charge they’ll let themselves be demagogued into adhering to the cloture rule that won’t exist anymore.


43 posted on 10/06/2011 5:12:52 PM PDT by wiley
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To: Red Badger
He will roo the day he did this........

They'll try to change it back as soon as it's to their advantage. Abiding by the rules they agreed to would be the honorable thing to do, so don't expect it.

44 posted on 10/06/2011 5:13:09 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: Red Badger
He will roo the day he did this........

He'll rue this day too...

45 posted on 10/06/2011 5:14:13 PM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: Bobalu
Looks like we will have a filibuster proof repub senate in 2012.

Woooooo!

And we won't need no Steenkin' Nuclear Option.

46 posted on 10/06/2011 5:14:35 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: jazusamo

“I believe you’re correct. The Rats better understand what goes around comes around.”

LOL- We are talking about the republican party. They will never do it and if some try, McCain and Graham will stop them and apologize to the dems.


47 posted on 10/06/2011 5:14:55 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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To: jazusamo
The plight od the Republicans is that they are ALWAYS hit by the UNEXPECTED from the Democrats.

I think that would tell me everything I need to know about the Repubs.

48 posted on 10/06/2011 5:15:00 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: jazusamo

Excellent. Now all we need is 51 senators, a majority of the House, and the President to repeal all of Obama’s junk, and stack the Supreme Court with a supermajority of pro-life, pro-Constitution Justices.

Oh, I forgot, we also need a pair. Not sure where that will be coming from.


49 posted on 10/06/2011 5:16:13 PM PDT by cmj328
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To: MindBender26

I’m no authority by a long shot but I don’t believe the filibuster can be waived for one bill.


50 posted on 10/06/2011 5:16:35 PM PDT by jazusamo (The real minimum wage is zero: Thomas Sowell)
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