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White House Won’t Comment on Reuters Story About Secret Panel That Can Put Americans on ‘Kill
ABC News ^ | 10/6/11 | Jake Tapper

Posted on 10/06/2011 5:25:53 PM PDT by Nachum

Reuters’ Mark Hosenball today reported http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/05/us-cia-killlist-idUSTRE79475C20111005 that: “American militants like Anwar al-Awlaki are placed on a kill or capture list by a secretive panel of senior government officials, which then informs the president of its decisions, according to officials. There is no public record of the operations or decisions of the panel, which is a subset of the White House’s National Security Council, several current and former officials said. Neither is there any law establishing its existence or setting out the rules by which it is supposed to operate.”

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1 posted on 10/06/2011 5:26:01 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Nachum

A Death Panel, you betcha.


2 posted on 10/06/2011 5:27:33 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Nachum

gee...and the uber-left was upset at GWB for warrant-less spying on potential terrorists...i’m sure this will outrage the left even more and will be covered by the WaComPost/NYSlime/See BS non-stop...lol


3 posted on 10/06/2011 5:28:18 PM PDT by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: God luvs America

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts


4 posted on 10/06/2011 5:30:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Better to ask forgiveness than permission.)
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To: Nachum

We’re losing our country to these secret decisions and panels and the WOT and the belief by some that our government is above the law and above the US Constitution. It is a cancer that is eating away at the USA and some are content with it....until it expands.


5 posted on 10/06/2011 5:31:01 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: Nachum

Wonder if Bill Ayers, an admitted, treasonous terrorist, is on the list?


6 posted on 10/06/2011 5:32:19 PM PDT by cashless (Unlike Obama and his supporters, I'd rather be a TEA BAGGER than a TEA BAGGEE.)
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To: Nachum

The way I see it - if Obama has the panel for another 15 months or so, and then President Cain has the panel for 8 years, Mr. Cain could do A LOT of good things around the world.

Such as taking out the leaders of Iran and Venezuela, for example. It’s just going back to the way we used to deal with tyrants.


7 posted on 10/06/2011 5:33:37 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: Nachum

I’m most curious about who is on the panel. Pelosi? Reed? Jarret?


8 posted on 10/06/2011 5:33:37 PM PDT by JohnKinAK
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To: Nachum

To all msm....just stop, your buddy won, just go home, I’m no longer listening.


9 posted on 10/06/2011 5:33:47 PM PDT by toddausauras
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To: Nachum

Even though the al qaida terrorists was snuffed out, the concern is what keeps others from being put on the list ? It is a bad direction towards re-establishing Star Chambers !


10 posted on 10/06/2011 5:34:59 PM PDT by CORedneck
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To: cashless

Wonder if Bill Ayers, an admitted, treasonous terrorist, is on the list?

Naw, just people from the tea party.


11 posted on 10/06/2011 5:35:36 PM PDT by gunner03
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To: Nachum

12 posted on 10/06/2011 5:35:54 PM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: BobL

“The way I see it - if Obama has the panel for another 15 months or so, and then President Cain has the panel for 8 years, Mr. Cain could do A LOT of good things around the world.

Such as taking out the leaders of Iran and Venezuela, for example. It’s just going back to the way we used to deal with tyrants.”

Actually, I see this is deal with AMERICANS. I’m still good. If ANY American takes up arms against this country on foreign soil...he’s FAIR GAME as far as I’m concerned. But I still like the precedent it sets for foreign tyrants...which is that we’re done playing footsie.


13 posted on 10/06/2011 5:35:54 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: Nachum

When Bush found one of the Gitmo guys was US born , he moved him to Virginia for trial..

That the Code Pinker, Mike Moore, Bill Maher guys are silent ,proves their concerns have and continue to be, fake.


14 posted on 10/06/2011 5:36:37 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Democrats are violent. Prisons are overflowing with democrats convicted of violent crimes.)
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To: Nachum

Anti war liberals are such F****** hypocrites.


15 posted on 10/06/2011 5:37:05 PM PDT by corlorde (NH)
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To: Nachum

I’ll disagree when I think he’s wrong, which I usually do. I agree with him on the latest terrorist killing though. If Bill Clinton had the same policy, 9/11 may have been just another beautiful late summer day. This isn’t a situation to be handled by the US legal system. It is war


16 posted on 10/06/2011 5:37:28 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Nachum

Possibly Martha Stewart and decidedly the vast majority of posters here will attest to that as a “good thing”


17 posted on 10/06/2011 5:40:01 PM PDT by nkycincinnatikid
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

In totally unrelated news Sarah Palin announces she will not run.


18 posted on 10/06/2011 5:40:12 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: Nachum
Not to worry.. just as soon as the Lefty nutcases can plant rumors that BUSH DID IT! then this story will officially have legs. The MSM employees and the White House can reveal how they are putting an end to this evil Bush thing. (As they continue it.)

That pattern seems to be emerging vis-a-vis Fast and Furious. Now that the Left has put out a story that BUSH DID IT! F&F officially now has legs.

19 posted on 10/06/2011 5:40:12 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

In totally unrelated news Sarah Palin announces she will not run.


20 posted on 10/06/2011 5:40:26 PM PDT by usmcobra
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To: Nachum

I’m glad the traitor is dead, but didn’t Obama have enough time to try him for treason in absentia and then order execution with some semblance of due process for an admittedly despicable citizen?


21 posted on 10/06/2011 5:43:21 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Nachum
1. Ron Paul said that killing an American citizen without due process was wrong.

2. But Ron Paul is an antisemitic, pro-jihad, pro-drug, isolationist, pro-illegal-alien lunatic.

3. Therefore it must be OK to sometimes kill American Citizens without due process.

4. But we don't want Star Chambers or death panels, so...

Oh my, this is confusing.

22 posted on 10/06/2011 5:44:43 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: usmcobra

Any one care about the Constitutional right to due process? When will they vote to kill you for being on free republic? Hummmm? Any constitutional concerns here for US citizens or do we just kill’em? Let’s have the government just vote who dies— Yeah Dats it!! Have we lost our country??


23 posted on 10/06/2011 5:46:46 PM PDT by PETENICK1
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To: NoLibZone
"When Bush found one of the Gitmo guys was US born , he moved him to Virginia for trial.."

This terrorist was actively waging war and bragging about it on the internet. He wasn't in custody of the USA. This particular terrorist was nothing more than an anchor baby to begin with. I absolutely despise the current inhibitor of the Whitehouse, but this is reaching. That missile saved ground personnel from having to extract him for trial.

24 posted on 10/06/2011 5:46:46 PM PDT by Figment ("A communist is someone who reads Marx.An anti-communist is someone who understands Marx" R Reagan)
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To: Nachum
And no Judge will comment on the Constiutionality of this panel.

Excerpt from the 5th Admendment: No person shall... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;...

Excerpt from the 14th Admendment: ...No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law...

Nope, the type of cans you put beans in, who can marry who or any other thing they can find in the Constitution, but plain text and meaning is quite beyond their ability. Perhaps they should read this from the Declaration of Independance: But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. I would suggest that if we have to institute a new government to garner back our freedom, we use the Constitution of the Unites States of America. The plain text version of course.

25 posted on 10/06/2011 5:46:48 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Nachum

This secret panel sounds like the assassin squad in The Bourne Identity.


26 posted on 10/06/2011 5:46:56 PM PDT by charlie72
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To: Nachum

I wonder if one way that you might make this list is to inquire about this list?

We are constitutionally over the edge and holding on to a weed trying to clamor back.


27 posted on 10/06/2011 5:50:28 PM PDT by Bshaw (A nefarious deceit is upon us all!)
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To: skr

that is just bull.

please remember we are at war and the killing was an act of war.

I know it is difficult to comprehend a war with no front being prosecuted in remote places and cities all over the world, but.....try

Due process is not involved and irelevant

The fact he was born in America is totally irrelevant


28 posted on 10/06/2011 5:50:45 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: Nachum

More like “What the hell are we going to do with them if they are captured??” Send them to Quantanamo....He doesn’t want NO ONE going there...especially now.


29 posted on 10/06/2011 5:52:17 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nachum

We lost our country when someone decided that the US Constitution doesn’t apply during war.


30 posted on 10/06/2011 5:53:25 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: skr
...didn’t Obama have enough time to try him for treason in absentia...

But then, that would take someone in Government that knew how to actually follow the law. The present group of "leaders" feel themselves above the law, or are simply lawless. I fear the only law they would ever follow is the law of gravity at a gallows.

31 posted on 10/06/2011 5:53:57 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

The hole this Admin has been digging has turned into a bottomless pit.

The hits just keep coming. It’s time for these Fascist to learn we have a Constitution and Laws, AND THEY MUST OBEY THEM JUST LIKE THE REST OF US.


32 posted on 10/06/2011 5:54:40 PM PDT by marty60
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To: bert

When did congress declare “WAR” ? I just missed that. What date?


33 posted on 10/06/2011 5:55:01 PM PDT by PETENICK1
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To: Nachum
STAR CHAMBER
34 posted on 10/06/2011 5:55:10 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (I ou)
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To: Figment
This isn’t a situation to be handled by the US legal system.

It's a situation to be handled by the Constitution.

35 posted on 10/06/2011 5:55:49 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Given enough time, the primary function of any bureaucracy becomes the employment of its employees.)
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To: PETENICK1

ha ha ha......

it is a new world and new rules apply to situation that is not covered by the constitution that considered war to be between sovereign nations


36 posted on 10/06/2011 6:03:39 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: Nachum

Another death panel? The healthscare bill won’t be enough?


37 posted on 10/06/2011 6:06:25 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: Nachum

I think the fact of one of these scrots being put on the list, along with the names and/or titles of the folks on the panel, should be made public.

Sure the much of the evidence, and in some cases who presented it, needs to be kept secret, sources and methods you know. But let the bastards worry about there being a Hellfire on a drone above them with their name on it. Of course they are probably worried anyway, but getting their names on a wanted Dead or Alive, preferably Dead, poster might help.

Congress could issue a letter Marque or Reprisal, the former in the case of seaborne terrorists, like those who prey in the waters of the northwestern Indian ocean. Have every dude with a jeep, a land cruiser or a camel hunting those on land.


38 posted on 10/06/2011 6:06:31 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Nachum

The biggest problem is elite liberals see Tea Party members as ‘terrorists’. Someday we might wish we had fought this one...


39 posted on 10/06/2011 6:08:06 PM PDT by GOPJ ("There are four boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order.)
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To: bert

Where are these new rules written when they come and get you as a “terrorist”? By the way— give me the definition of terrorist that they will use at your committee meeting when they vote to kill you with out a trial? Please get a clue.


40 posted on 10/06/2011 6:09:17 PM PDT by PETENICK1
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To: PETENICK1

“Have we lost our country??”
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Does a Bear? Is the Pope?


41 posted on 10/06/2011 6:10:14 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: Nachum
If someone like Awlaki had been engaged in active combat, no one would have thought anything of him being shot. The issue here is that he wasn't in active combat. He was encouraging and directing others in active combat. He's still an enemy.

I don't see any reason why an accused in such a case needs to be brought back for trial. However, I don't like the idea of the executive branch being judge, jury and executioner. That's why we have an independent judiciary. Just as we have a separate FISA court for eavesdropping on spies, maybe we should have a separate court to hear cases like this. The executive would have to prove they have the right guy, and he's guilty. Only after approval by a separate court should the drones be sent after him.

42 posted on 10/06/2011 6:14:08 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. A primer on armed revolt. Available form Amazon.)
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To: Nachum

Maybe those scads of coffins in Georgia were real?


43 posted on 10/06/2011 6:17:53 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: Nachum
Secret Panel That Can Put Americans on ‘Kill list!

With this administration, any American!

44 posted on 10/06/2011 6:27:08 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (I miss President Bush greatly! Palin in 2012! 2012 - The End Of An Error! (Oathkeeper))
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To: PETENICK1
When did congress declare “WAR” ? I just missed that. What date?

Sept 18, 2001.

Public Law 107 - 40 - Authorization for Use of Military Force

That the President is authorized to use all necessary and appropriate force against those nations, organizations, or persons he determines planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons, in order to prevent any future acts of international terrorism against the United States by such nations, organizations or persons.

(b) War Powers Resolution Requirements.--
(1) Specific statutory authorization.--Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution, the Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution.

45 posted on 10/06/2011 6:30:59 PM PDT by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Nachum
MAGNUM FORCE

As incredible as it seems, there may be a whole sub-organization within the police force-- sort of a death squad like they had in brazil some years back.

01:29:29 Damn.

01:29:31 Yeah, some nights I wake up, wonder where the hell the world's going to. >p> 01:29:38 I want you to take care of yourself, you understand ?

01:29:59 Hi.

01:30:00 Hi.

01:30:01 Gee, what happened to your face ?

01:30:04 Oh, nothing, just a few stitches.

01:30:09 How about if I bring back a few beers ?

01:30:11 Good, I could use a beer right about now.

01:30:14 I've got your keys, so I'll get your mail, too.

01:30:17 All right, baby.

01:30:18 Keep it warm.

01:30:40 ( man ) DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA How hard it is to prosecute a cop ?

01:31:02 You "heroes" have killed a dozen people this week.

01:31:06 What are you gonna do next week ?

01:31:12 Kill a dozen more.

01:31:14 Is that what you guys are all about-- being heroes ?

01:31:17 All our heroes are dead.

01:31:19 We're the first generation that's learned to fight.

01:31:24 We're simply ridding society of killers that would be caught and sentenced, anyway, if our courts worked properly.

01:31:31 We began with the criminals that the people know, so that our actions would be understood.

01:31:39 It's not just a question of whether or not to use violence.

01:31:45 There simply is no other way, inspector.

01:31:49 You, of all people, should understand that.

01:31:56 Either you're for us, or you're against us.

01:32:05 I'm afraid you've misjudged me.

It's the Constitution. We are now a nation of a man, not of laws. This Free Republic has been ursurped by obama and this extraconstitutional organization, with no name, no written record, no elective officials responsible to the electorate, a totalitarian govenor who now decides who lives and who dies. It is his choice.

46 posted on 10/06/2011 6:56:31 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (I ou)
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To: charlie72
I was thinking of "The Star Chamber".
47 posted on 10/06/2011 7:30:06 PM PDT by annieokie
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To: freedomfiter2

“We lost our country when someone decided that the US Constitution doesn’t apply during war.”

You mean like Lincoln did in 1861?

Guess we’ve been lost a long time.


48 posted on 10/06/2011 7:32:07 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Nachum
Why aren't we reading about this in the New York Times?

/s

49 posted on 10/06/2011 7:50:59 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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To: Henry Hnyellar

That’s why I’d put Lincoln near the bottom of Presidents. In practice, the seeds planted by Lincoln didn’t all sprout at once.


50 posted on 10/06/2011 8:29:04 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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