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Warning over France's Islamic suburbs which are becoming 'separate communities in a divided nation'
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 6th October 2011

Posted on 10/07/2011 10:30:27 AM PDT by Mount Athos

France's run-down city suburbs are becoming ‘separate Islamic societies’ cut off from the state, a report has warned.

Arab communities are increasingly rejecting French values and identity to immerse themselves in Muslim culture and lifestyle, it was found.

Muslim pupils often boycott school dinners if the food is not halal and most Arabs oppose marriages to white French citizens, the study by respected political scientist Gilles Kepel revealed.

As a result, France – whose five million Muslims make up Europe’s largest Islamic population – was turning into a ‘divided nation’, the study called Suburbs of the Republic found.

Dr Kepel wrote: ‘In some areas, a third of the population of the town does not hold French nationality, and many residents are drawn to an Islamic identity rather than simply rejecting or failing to find a secular one.

‘French schools, which are rigorously non-religious, have traditionally been seen as having the role of training young citizens of the republic.

But local officials say Islamic pupils are heading home for a halal lunch.

‘Most people in France do not object to mixed marriages, but in the suburbs we were surprised to find a very large proportion of Muslim respondents said they were opposed to marriages with non-Muslims.’

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: diversity; europe; france; islam; multiculturalism; multiculturalismfail; muslim; muslims; openborders; sarkozy; sharia; yutes

1 posted on 10/07/2011 10:30:31 AM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Mount Athos

Celebrate diversity!


2 posted on 10/07/2011 10:36:05 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: WOBBLY BOB

slow learners.


3 posted on 10/07/2011 10:38:57 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: Mount Athos

I believe France has been divided into separate communities for several years now. It first came to my attention when news of ‘yutes’ setting cars on fire by the thousands hit the news. Then I discovered that it had been occurring for a few years prior but that it was escalating. Then all word of car burnings dropped out of the news but about 2 years ago - I discovered the torchings never stopped and that thousands of cars are set alight every year by ‘disenfranchised yutes’. So this article poses concern about something that is happened when in fact it already happened. I wonder how many cars were burned in 2010? How many this year?


4 posted on 10/07/2011 10:38:57 AM PDT by ransomnote
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To: Mount Athos
Interesting related article

Europe, Globalization and the Coming Caliphate American Thinker

This past week, French President Nicolas Sarkozy proposed an upgrade for the Arab-Palestinians' U.N. status from "nonmember observer" to "nonmember observer state," plus a one-year timetable for establishing a Palestinian state. In light of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas's request for a unilateral declaration of statehood through the United Nations and a likely showdown at the Security Council with the United States promising to veto any Palestinian resolution, Sarkozy's proposal allegedly attempted to lower the "risk of engendering a cycle of violence in the Middle East."

... Facing presidential elections in 2012 in a country where 82% of the public supports a Palestinian state and where Muslims outnumber Jews 10 to 1, Sarkozy appears to have used Arab-Palestinian statehood demands, not to create peace, but to appease French Muslims and appeal to the anti-Israel electorate. Further, the French government could also have viewed a pro-Palestinian proposal at the U.N. as a way to avert increasing Muslim violence throughout the country

5 posted on 10/07/2011 10:41:45 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Mount Athos

How would we feel if it happened here? An Islamic community, a Catholic community, a Jewish community, a Baptist community, etc, etc. My opinion, it would need to be stopped immediately.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 10:42:54 AM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

Go to Dearborn MI and then explain again about it happening here...


7 posted on 10/07/2011 10:45:58 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Abathar

I’ve heard about that and it needs to be stopped.....now.


8 posted on 10/07/2011 10:47:33 AM PDT by RC2
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To: RC2

You’re kidding right. It’s been like that since our beginnings.


9 posted on 10/07/2011 10:48:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Mount Athos
Same exact thing happening in the U.S.

Divide the once united.

The strategy is working like a fine tuned machine.

10 posted on 10/07/2011 10:51:45 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: opentalk
more from link

...Middle East historian and scholar Bat Ye'or .. explains how Europe, with France as the driving force, has been complicit in the Islamization of the continent and its evolution from a Judeo-Christian civilization to one of subservience to Islam, a civilization of dhimmitude, or Eurabia.

Central to this shift has been the adoption of multiculturalism, which advances the idea that all cultures are equal and deserve equal treatment and which makes it politically incorrect to critique other cultures or uphold European traditions and values. Multiculturalism has also resulted in rapprochement between Islam and Europe, a multilateral partnership between the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) and the U.N., and the Palestinianization of European policy to delegitimize Israel and cast it as the occupier/victimizer of Arab-Palestinians.

11 posted on 10/07/2011 10:51:53 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: Mount Athos
Coming to America, strike that; There already are here in the United States places where you can live, die, watch TV and Movies, go to school, work, have a family, vote and never learn english, heck some of them you don't even have to be a citizen!
12 posted on 10/07/2011 11:08:48 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Sacajaweau; RC2
You’re kidding right?

When we were kids, just a few years back, signs were in English...Most everyone spoke English...You know, the glue that once held our country together...Now ya press 2 for English...They demand to be taught and spoken to in their foreign languages.. Ya didn't notice? Ya seen government forms lately? Ya been to a big city lately? Ya got tens of millions being imported into our country, legally and illegally who don't like you, your flag, your laws or your traditions...In fact, they have absolutely no desire to assimilate as they parade around in their foreign garb...Ya got millions who won't fly the American flag, as they display their foreign flags, as they trash your cities...In fact, they've marched on your cities by the millions, pushing foreign flags in your face, while making threatening demands...

While you were deep asleep, they divided the once united, and have all but made American citizenship pointless.

13 posted on 10/07/2011 11:13:40 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mount Athos

>Arab communities are increasingly rejecting French values and identity to immerse themselves in Muslim culture and lifestyle, it was found.<

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It took the French long enough to finally realize the situation of Islam vis-a-vis the host country.

It will most like be too late when the US start to understand that it is being eaten alive by Islam.


14 posted on 10/07/2011 11:14:39 AM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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To: Mount Athos
France's run-down city suburbs are becoming ‘separate Islamic societies’ cut off from the state, a report has warned.

Typical behavior

“Arab communities are increasingly rejecting French values”

Which ARE?

“often boycott school dinners if the food is not halal and most Arabs oppose marriages to white French citizens,”

Muslims must eat halal. The problem with marriage has nothing to do with color and everything to do with religion.

“and many residents are drawn to an Islamic identity rather than simply rejecting or failing to find a secular one. “

?????? Drawn?? DRAWN???? It makes it seem that there was something the rest of the country did or didn't do to result in this behavior. Drawn NOTHING. They are just practicing what Islam teaches.

“‘French schools, which are rigorously non-religious, have traditionally been seen as having the role of training young citizens of the republic. ‘

French SOCIETY, like the rest of Europe has confused not having a state religion with encouraging NO RELIGION. Consequently, Frenchmen raised with no sense of relgious attachment are ready fuel for “conversion” by these maniacs into their death cult.

15 posted on 10/07/2011 11:15:38 AM PDT by ZULU (DUMP Obama in 2012)
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To: Mount Athos

The Muslimplan is working and Sarkozy is a part of itOnly yesterday he kissed the Muslims ass by saying Israel was not a state.;

Turn France over, It’s done.

England is almost done.


16 posted on 10/07/2011 11:19:09 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Abathar
Actually, Dearborn is a divided city. The western half is a nice clean area with bnice homes and well-kept lawns. The eastern (Islamic half) resembles a Middle East hell hole. It won't be long until the entire city “progesses” to the point where it resembles the Muslim half.
17 posted on 10/07/2011 11:21:23 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: Mount Athos

Those islamic communities had better not use ketchup or there will be trouble!


18 posted on 10/07/2011 11:33:53 AM PDT by killermosquito (Buffalo, Detroit (and eventually France) is what you get when liberalism runs its course.)
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To: Mount Athos

This has been going on since the 1970’s...I was in Paris in 1976/77 with sister and brother-in-law....BIL was French, and they were talking then about all the Muzzies....


19 posted on 10/07/2011 11:44:45 AM PDT by goodnesswins (My Kid/Grandkids are NOT your ATM, liberals! (Sarah Palin))
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To: Mount Athos

Here’s an item that might have been news 40 years ago. What rock have these folks been living under?


20 posted on 10/07/2011 11:50:51 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: bwc2221

I know, I didn’t split hairs though. My fil owned a meat market on Schaefer for decades, waited just a little too long to sell out back in the late 80’s and it cost him dearly.


21 posted on 10/07/2011 11:52:33 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: RC2

Never been to San Antonio, have you?


22 posted on 10/07/2011 11:53:23 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: workerbee

Is San Antonio a strict religious community?


23 posted on 10/07/2011 11:57:41 AM PDT by RC2
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To: Mount Athos
The French are too busy with more important matters of state:

France bans ketchup in cafeterias"

24 posted on 10/07/2011 11:58:13 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: ransomnote
I believe France has been divided into separate communities for several years now. It first came to my attention when news of ‘yutes’ setting cars on fire by the thousands hit the news. Then I discovered that it had been occurring for a few years prior but that it was escalating. Then all word of car burnings dropped out of the news but about 2 years ago - I discovered the torchings never stopped and that thousands of cars are set alight every year by ‘disenfranchised yutes’. So this article poses concern about something that is happened when in fact it already happened. I wonder how many cars were burned in 2010? How many this year?

I suspect the torchings are non-random, in that I think the cars are of non-Muslims that the Muslims wish to persuade to move out of "their" areas.

25 posted on 10/07/2011 12:12:22 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Celebrate diversity assimilation!
26 posted on 10/07/2011 12:16:59 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: workerbee

Well they already don’t like French fries.....no point in having ketchup hanging around.


27 posted on 10/07/2011 12:20:08 PM PDT by LasVegasMac (Have ya hit 'em in the a$$, Never let off the gas 'til ya rolled into Victory Lane?)
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To: Mount Athos
"and most Arabs oppose marriages to white French citizens"

Yeah, but they don't mind raping them!

http://www.cwporter.com/mosrape.htm

28 posted on 10/07/2011 12:25:55 PM PDT by Dacus943
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To: Mount Athos

This started after WWI, France wanted and did import people from her North Africa colonies, because the Germans out numbered them. I just learned this from listen to the book Paris 1919.


29 posted on 10/07/2011 1:21:49 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Mount Athos

No need to worry, France - your communities will no longer be divided after the Moslems take over, kill all non-Moslems, and establish a Moslem state.

Liberte, egalite, fraternite? Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa


30 posted on 10/07/2011 1:39:31 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: 353FMG

“It took the French long enough to finally realize the situation of Islam vis-a-vis the host country.”

Host country? Parasites usually kill the host, unless the parasites are eradicated first. Its how nature works.


31 posted on 10/08/2011 5:39:41 AM PDT by This I Wonder32460
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To: This I Wonder32460

>Host country? Parasites usually kill the host, unless the parasites are eradicated first. Its how nature works.<

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That’s why I think that, whoever will be in the WH next, will involuntarily play a delaying game before Islam destroys this nation.

All that the candidates talk about are jobs, jobs and the economy. All very, very important issues but none of them talk about the threat of Islam.

If Islam takes over, there is no need for jobs because everything will turn into manure and only muslims will have jobs.

Silly debaters.


32 posted on 10/08/2011 10:01:16 AM PDT by 353FMG (Liberalism is Satan's handiwork.)
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