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Poll: Cain surges, opens up 20-point lead on Romney
Yahoo!News ^ | Oct 7, 2011 | Alexis Levinson

Posted on 10/07/2011 11:24:25 AM PDT by Ron H.

In news sure to inject shock and awe into the Republican political primary season, a Zogby poll released Thursday showed Herman Cain leading the Republican field, topping former front-runner Mitt Romney by an astonishing 20 points ........

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KEYWORDS: cain; hermancain; internetpoll; perry; presidential; romney; zogbypoll
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To: Ron H.
Dang, Dang, Dang...


51 posted on 10/07/2011 12:12:46 PM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: Lazlo in PA

You are most definitely correct. I blame my misspelling on the cat.


52 posted on 10/07/2011 12:14:16 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: barmag25

And in another totally unrelated story, Rosie O’Donnell exploded after just one more bean burrito.


53 posted on 10/07/2011 12:16:13 PM PDT by righttackle44 (I may not be much, but I raised a U.S. Marine.)
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To: Ron H.

Just wait until Cain starts getting some hard questions. He has been given pretty much a pass by the LMS and others at the debates.


54 posted on 10/07/2011 12:17:11 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Grunthor
Thanks, you are very gracious.
55 posted on 10/07/2011 12:21:24 PM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: Lazlo in PA
The man made a commitment to do the tour. It might well be a contractual obligation. Either way, in a race like this, NO PRESS IS BAD PRESS in many ways! He is in the front of the news, and THAT is what increases name recognition! In reality, the more people hearing about Cain and what he stands for, the higher his poll numbers go.

The book tour is NOT a mistake per say. Maybe he could better use the venue and move up his appearances in Iowa and NH while promoting the book!! I would combine the two to the greatest extent possible. But then that's just me and I am better than many strategists out there.

In fact I sat and listened to a segment on Megan Kelly's show this morning (afternoon on the East coast) where one of the participants quoted my 2009 paper “The Role of Congress in the recession of 2008”. It wasn't a direct quote, but it was all the dots I originally connected 2 years ago. Many have quoted individual parts, but this fellow quoted more extensively than anyone I have ever seen. I am DAMN glad that I wrote it and made it public. It is somewhat gratifying to have people finally quoting from it more directly because the argument I made then was based on facts, it was just that no one had put them all together before I did.

Herman is not going to be hurt by this Book Tour, in fact he will gain. maybe not as much as if he were in Iowa or NH in those specific states, but Nationally, it is going to only add to his candidacy.

56 posted on 10/07/2011 12:22:29 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Ron H.

WOW! 20 points, even if they’ve “rounded up” that is still mighty impressive.


57 posted on 10/07/2011 12:23:20 PM PDT by ReaganBaby26 (Perry/Cain 2012)
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To: AdamBomb

LoL!


58 posted on 10/07/2011 12:25:17 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: Irish Eyes

Did you happen to see his combative interview with Lawrence O’Donell? How about his appearance on “The View?”

He’s not hiding from the leftists.


59 posted on 10/07/2011 12:26:52 PM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: samtheman
I’m holding off to give Perry one more chance to look half-way credible in the debates. If he fails again, that’s it. I’m on the Cain Train.

Considering that he has been in near total seclusion since right after the last debate where he put his foot in his mouth so disgracefully and being kept away from cameras and microphones, being tutored by supposedly the best in the technique of debate maybe he'll be a better debater this time around. But what I'll be looking for this time around is his flip-flops on core issues of importance to us voters. They'll be there so stay tuned and watch for them. He has to flip-flop on key positions or soft-pedal them if he is to keep his campaign alive beyond this next debate.

IMO if he trips again, even just a little bit since expectations for him are riding even higher than they were before, this time he is all washed up as a top-tier contender. He must score big if that is possible. In reality I really just don't see him making much of a comeback after his infamous "no heart" comment which will inevitably dog him the rest of the campaign.

60 posted on 10/07/2011 12:34:43 PM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: Danae

I think Herman would say “Lighten up”. I was poking fun a Welch, not Cain. I am with you 100%. Cain is getting a lot higher profile interviews on this “Book Tour” than if he were campaigning.


61 posted on 10/07/2011 12:35:18 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Ron H.
re #50

telling it like it is and NOT sugar coating it.

62 posted on 10/07/2011 12:36:29 PM PDT by Ron H. (Loving my Deering Goodtime 2 Classic 5-stringer)
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To: Ron H.

Cain, melanin aside, is one of those guys that can and will honestly state his beliefs, teach people why he is right, and tell you to vote for him or not.

This is something a leftist cannot do. They can’t even fake it very well.


63 posted on 10/07/2011 12:39:03 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Ron H.

I am for Mr. Cain. I will not vote for the commie Rommie.


64 posted on 10/07/2011 12:39:34 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (If you continue to put up with garbage, then all you will have in the end is GARBAGE!)
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To: MrB
Romney, Perry, et al, are politicians. They may have core values

THAT is their core value. They ARE politicians. Simple as that.

65 posted on 10/07/2011 12:42:06 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (If you continue to put up with garbage, then all you will have in the end is GARBAGE!)
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To: Ron H.; barmag25

And Perry’s camp has apparently gone into near total seclusion in an attempt as to figure out what next to flip-flop on in order to stem the blood gushing from their campaign.

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On here, the Perry-dactyls are going after Cain in a big way, even to the point of lying. I think those who are standing by Perry are angry at those who moved from Perry to Cain after the debates and the FL straw poll.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2789373/posts?page=161


66 posted on 10/07/2011 12:43:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Romney IS Obama - just paler.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

LOL Sorry! I didn’t notice that you were poking Welch. :) My apologies!


67 posted on 10/07/2011 12:47:09 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Grunthor
Did you happen to see his combative interview with Lawrence O’Donell? How about his appearance on “The View?”

He’s not hiding from the leftists.

No, have not had a chance to see them, will look for them.

68 posted on 10/07/2011 12:47:59 PM PDT by Irish Eyes
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To: Ron H.

I basically agree with your post #60. I’m hoping for the best, but expecting the worst.


69 posted on 10/07/2011 12:51:17 PM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: william clark

One of my favorites.

...also just about the nearest I ever got to Sea Duty.


70 posted on 10/07/2011 12:55:16 PM PDT by Unrepentant VN Vet ((470 and a wakeup) Truth, I know, always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition.)
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To: cotton1706
I think somebody thought Conservatives would flock to Romney.

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

There's a hard cap on his popularity ~ it didn't budge a bit.

71 posted on 10/07/2011 12:56:10 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MrB
They may have core values, but they’ve been trained not to offend anyone, so they never express those core values out loud and try to “nice” as many as possible into voting for them.

Cain has been my pick from the start. I heard him speak last year and was impressed then. And, mostly I agree with you in the above statement. However, Rick Santorum is probably the most forthright expressing his values. I think he would be good in some high level position when Cain is elected. And I would love to see Cain with a strong VP like Gingrich. Gingrich's knowledge and experience on foreign issues would be a good balance. For once we could have two men in the top positions who know something about business AND international relations. A businessman and a statesman...much better than two dumb, life long politicians who know nothing of the world outside of the DC beltway.

72 posted on 10/07/2011 12:56:58 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama's legacy will be to be remembered as The architect of the decline of the USA)
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To: CitizenM

I was mostly referring to Romney, and Perry to a slightly lesser extent.


73 posted on 10/07/2011 12:58:19 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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75 posted on 10/07/2011 1:34:29 PM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: CitizenM
And I would love to see Cain with a strong VP like Gingrich

Gingrich is a dirty bomb, He's totally radioactive. Cain would lose points putting him on the ticket. He needs to go back to the couch with SanFranNan/Hillary.

76 posted on 10/07/2011 1:34:56 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Ron H.
When The Hermanator is asked to do campaign appearances with GOP Senate candidates, then the deal is sealed.
77 posted on 10/07/2011 1:37:16 PM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: Tonytitan

Saw Cain today on his book tour. Will post pics later.

He looks GREAT in person — very dignified and polite. He was signing books and the lines were long. He’s very gracious and businesslike.


78 posted on 10/07/2011 1:43:18 PM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: Ron H.

Looks like Herman’s picking up most of Perry’s support as well as that which would have gone to Palin.


79 posted on 10/07/2011 2:09:11 PM PDT by RockinRight (If everyone wants to ride in the wagon, then who is pulling it?)
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To: Ron H.
Choose. This:


HERMAN CAIN FOR A RETURN TO AMERICAN STRENGTH AND VALUES

...or this:


OBAMA AND MARXISM IN AMERICA

80 posted on 10/07/2011 2:13:07 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: Jeff Head

Great stuff you’ve got there :)


81 posted on 10/07/2011 2:37:37 PM PDT by redinIllinois (Pro-life, accountant, gun-totin' grandma - multi issue voter)
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To: Ron H.
Tomorrow's headline today (or so we hope):

Presidential Race Mit Out Mitt!


82 posted on 10/07/2011 2:42:13 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: cotton1706

This is what I was trying to tell everyone. I said that people are always switching who they want because they were looking for a candidate that wass’t there in Sarah Palin. She would have one the nomination because of her popularity and because she is a complete polar opposite of Osama. Oops, I mean Obama. She is extremely likeable, has integrity, and is genuine. All these traits people are seeing in Herman Cain. Since she announced that she is not running, everyone has jumped on the Herman Cain bandwagon. He will be our presidential nominee and no longer will any libtard be able to say conservatives are racist. Stick that in your pipe and smoke it Ms. Garafalo!


83 posted on 10/07/2011 2:42:44 PM PDT by GunPkrBkr (I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six.)
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To: Ron H.

Romney at the next debate will look into the camera and ask, in frustration:

“C’mon people, how many positions do I have to take on an issue before you finally see me as a conservative?”


84 posted on 10/07/2011 2:54:52 PM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: Ron H.
Rock Mitt like a

HermanCain!


85 posted on 10/07/2011 3:18:00 PM PDT by Publius Maximus (It was a nice Republic, while it lasted.)
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To: barmag25

“And in a totally unrelated story Lawrence O’Donnells head just exploded.”
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Wow, that really is great news, is video available?


86 posted on 10/07/2011 3:31:01 PM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
Well according to Janeane Garafalo, your house guests are all closet racists.

Well, if that is the criteria, then I must think that she looks like a grouper(not groupee) in that picture..... Which she does.


87 posted on 10/07/2011 4:38:09 PM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Grunthor; Ron H.
But how many times is this same story going to be posted? I got all excited thinking it was a different poll backing up this one.

I agree. This one didn't even need a search. All one had to do was look at the sidebar!

88 posted on 10/07/2011 4:47:13 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Ron H.
Here's one from YESTERDAY afternoon.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2788970/posts?page=258

89 posted on 10/07/2011 4:49:14 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Jeff Head

90 posted on 10/07/2011 4:51:27 PM PDT by Netizen (Path to citizenship = Scamnesty. If you give it away, more will come. Who's pilfering your wallet?)
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To: Nonstatist
I don't believe it.

I do believe the MSM is meeting all over the country to plot how to get dirt on Cain.

If they can't find dirt, they'll start in on the cancer thing.

91 posted on 10/07/2011 5:03:57 PM PDT by lonestar (It takes a village of idiots to elect a village idiot.)
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To: Publius Maximus
> Rock Mitt like a HermanCain!

That's GREAT!

92 posted on 10/07/2011 5:17:07 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: MrB
Cain is one of those guys that has core values, sticks to them, expresses them honestly,....

Are you sure about that?

Apart from listening to the great sound bites he threw out at the debate, how much do most voters really known about Cain's political posturing?

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Cain, May 5, 2011, Regarding the killing of al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki

"He should be charged. And since he's an American citizen, he should be tried in our courts," Cain said of al-Awlaki. When asked if he considered it legal for President Obama to order al-Awlaki killed, Cain said, "In his case, no, because he's an American citizen. If he's an American citizen, which is the big difference, then he should be charged, and he should be arrested and brought to justice."

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Cain, October, 2011, Regarding the killing of al-Qaeda terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki

"Asked why he had backed off his opposition to the U.S. military's targeting Anwar Awlaki, the al Qaeda terrorist and American citizen who was killed Friday by a drone strike in Yemen, Cain denied that he had ever opposed taking out Awlaki. “I never said that [President Obama] should not have ordered [the killing]. I don’t recall saying that. I think you’ve got some misinformation," Cain said. "Keep in mind that there are a lot of people out there trying to make me sound as if I am indecisive."

93 posted on 10/07/2011 5:40:29 PM PDT by Polybius (Defeating Obama should be Priority Number One.)
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To: Drew68

“There’s no doubt Cain is the current “flavor of the week” (as Perry, Bachman and even Trump have been before him) but can he sustain his poll numbers? Personally, I think he’s peaked. Perry is currently raising mountains of cash. He’ll be back (hopefully he spent some of this $$$ on debate coaching).”


It’s hard to erase first impressions and for Perry that simply will not be an easy image to build on. Money helps but as the old song goes, it “Can’t Buy (You) Love” when the first three “dates” (debates) have gotten worse and not better. This poll is certainly an outlier when compared to individual state polls but clearly shows a trend that started with a bang in Florida. Cain, of course, becomes Target #1 from the other hopefuls but I am reasonably confident that when the dust settle Perry will be down and close to out and Cain will have solidified a two-way contest with Romney.


94 posted on 10/07/2011 5:56:33 PM PDT by torchthemummy (Obi-Wan Palin: "If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.")
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To: Ron H.
It would be really fun to watch the first Black president be defeated by the second.

I would enjoy that to no end.
95 posted on 10/07/2011 6:06:02 PM PDT by Antoninus (Take the pledge: I will not vote for Mitt Romney under any circumstances. EVER.)
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To: Ron H.

If it shows Cain winning by 20 I don’t believe it, if it shows him up by 2 I don’t believe it, if it shows Romney up by 20 I don’t believe it, if it shows Romney up by 2 I don’t believe it—

Because national polls in a pre-primary season we are in now mean less than nothing.

Raising money and building ground organizations in the big delegates states is what matters now.


96 posted on 10/07/2011 6:38:10 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Polybius
Cain needs to clarify his stance here. It'll be interesting to see, because I am rather torn on this incident as well; it seems to be an issue of policy more than legality. I'm certainly not sure if I trust this President to carry out this policy. And thus, I'm not sure I'd want any President to act cavalier or impulsive on such considerations.
97 posted on 10/07/2011 6:40:11 PM PDT by sargon (I don't like the sound of these "boncentration bamps")
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To: Ron H.

Nah, Perry is not in seclusion, he is staying under the radar making a lot of speeches and campaign stops.


98 posted on 10/07/2011 7:50:25 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Ron H.

Question. Who is the best fit with Cain and for the USA among the ‘in’ runners? I have mine.


99 posted on 10/07/2011 9:07:05 PM PDT by noinfringers3
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To: bgill

Romney and Perry, as phony professional politician/chameleons, will do JUST like McCain 2008 did just around pre-South Carolina...veer hard and insincerely RIGHT. They will toss red meat left and right. Don’t be fooled folks. Hang tough. Herman Cain is the real deal...and their camps are extremely concerned about it. Next debate though he will vanquish them! But constant prayer and talking individually with your friends will help! Plus donations....
Sarah Palin could give an endorsement, too. That would work wonders. Let’s make liberal heads explode in awe, from coast to coast!!!


100 posted on 10/07/2011 9:14:46 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (To all good FRiends who supported Gov. Palin. I never badmouthed her. Please now join us w/ MR. CAIN)
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