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Perry backer: Romney in a 'cult,' not a Christian
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Posted on 10/07/2011 7:45:17 PM PDT by LouAvul

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To: Deagle

Oh and Reaganaut, life saving decision on your becoming a Christian and leaving the Mormon faith.


41 posted on 10/08/2011 12:02:13 AM PDT by Deagle
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To: LouAvul
Romney and like-minded big government Republicans sabotage the future of not just the GOP and conservatism, but the US. In the long term, they pose the greater danger to the Republic. Romney opposed the two most successful conservative policy efforts of the last 30 years... the Reagan policies of the 1980`s and the Contract With America of the 1990`s.

A Essay on Mitt Romney. Its damning.

42 posted on 10/08/2011 2:26:37 AM PDT by 506Lake (I'll say it again... no more compromise.)
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To: reaganaut

Before the RNC, the media will be all about how GOP narrowmindness and hatred threatens to deny Mitt the nomination.

As soon as he wins, the MSM will switch to a 9 week seminar in LDS doctrine, history, ritual, and customs. By the time they’re done with it, even Mormons will be amazed at what Mormonism is all about.


43 posted on 10/08/2011 2:56:37 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: reaganaut
...the LDS teachings you fail to mention...

Surely NOT!!!

44 posted on 10/08/2011 5:59:12 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut
Mormonism fits all 3 disciplinary definitions of a cult: anthropological, sociological, and theological.

Thank you for showing us that you, too, are a Hateful, Bigoted Apostate!

--MormonDude(But we will STILL take you back if you truly repent and are obedient to the Laws of the Gospel.)

45 posted on 10/08/2011 6:01:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Deagle
Since when has religion become a reason to vote for or against a candidate? This is becoming an obsession with some here at FreeRepublic.

Yeah; but what can you do?

So many FReepers have stated publically that they would NOT vote for a MUSLIM.

46 posted on 10/08/2011 6:03:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Saundra Duffy
If believing that Jesus Christ is my Savior makes me a member of a cult, I am guilty as charged.

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Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


 

47 posted on 10/08/2011 6:05:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: dandiegirl
There they go again!!

Better a Mormon than a Muslim.

48 posted on 10/08/2011 6:07:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: reaganaut

If Perry was a committed Christian, he would know that Mormonism is a cult.


49 posted on 10/08/2011 6:07:45 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: reaganaut
...the racist history of Mormonism...

Surely NOT!!!





"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind.

The first man that committed the odious crime of killing one of his brethren will be cursed the longest of any one of the children of Adam. Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings.

This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin. Trace mankind down to after the flood, and then another curse is pronounced upon the same race--that they should be the 'servant of servants', and they will be, until that curse is removed."

Brigham Young-President and second 'Prophet' of the Mormon Church, 1844-1877- Extract from Journal of Discourses.



Here are two examples from their 'other testament', the Book of Mormon.

2 Nephi 5: 21 'And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, that they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people, the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them.'

Alma 3: 6 'And the skins of the Lamanites were dark, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which was a curse upon them because of their transgression and their rebellion against their brethren, who consisted of Nephi, Jacob and Joseph, and Sam, who were just and holy men.'



August 27, 1954 in an address at Brigham Young University (BYU), Mormon Elder, Mark E Peterson, in speaking to a convention of teachers of religion at the college level, said:

"The discussion on civil rights, especially over the last 20 years, has drawn some very sharp lines. It has blinded the thinking of some of our own people, I believe. They have allowed their political affiliations to color their thinking to some extent.I think I have read enough to give you an idea of what the Negro is after."

"He is not just seeking the opportunity of sitting down in a cafe where white people eat. He isn't just trying to ride on the same streetcar or the same Pullman car with white people. It isn't that he just desires to go to the same theater as the white people. From this, and other interviews I have read, it appears that the Negro seeks absorption with the white race. He will not be satisfied until he achieves it by intermarriage."

"That is his objective and we must face it. We must not allow our feelings to carry us away, nor must we feel so sorry for Negroes that we will open our arms and embrace them with everything we have. Remember the little statement that we used to say about sin, 'First we pity, then endure, then embrace'...."

(Rosa Parks would have probably told Petersen under which wheel of the bus he should go sit.)



1967, (then) Mormon President Ezra Taft Benson said,

"The Communist program for revolution in America has been in progress for many years and is far advanced. First of all, we must not place the blame upon Negroes. They are merely the unfortunate group that has been selected by professional Communist agitators to be used as the primary source of cannon fodder."



We are told that on June 8, 1978, it was 'revealed' to the then president, Spencer Kimball, that people of color could now gain entry into the priesthood.

According to the church, Kimball spent many long hours petitioning God, begging him to give worthy black people the priesthood. God finally relented.



Sometime before the 'revelation' came to chief 'Prophet' Spencer Kimball in June 1978, General Authority, Bruce R McConkie had said:

"The Blacks are denied the Priesthood; under no circumstances can they hold this delegation of authority from the Almighty.

The Negroes are not equal with other races where the receipt of certain blessings are concerned, particularly the priesthood and the temple blessings that flow there from, but this inequality is not of man's origin, it is the Lord's doings."

(Mormon Doctrine, pp. 526-527).



When Mormon 'Apostle' Mark E Petersen spoke on 'Race Problems- As they affect the Church' at the BYU campus in 1954, the following was also said:

"...if the negro accepts the gospel with real, sincere faith, and is really converted, to give him the blessings of baptism and the gift of the Holy Ghost, he can and will enter the celestial kingdom. He will go there as a servant, but he will get celestial glory."



When Mormon 'Prophet' and second President of the Church, Brigham Young, spoke in 1863 the following was also said:

"Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God is death on the spot. This will always be so."

(Journal of Discourses, Vo. 10, p. 110)





Yeah; Native Americans are althroughout the Book of MORMON; too.

 

“I saw a striking contrast in the progress of the Indian people today ... they are fast becoming a white and delightsome people.... For years they have been growing delightsome, and they are now becoming white and delightsome, as they were promised.... The children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation.

At one meeting a father and mother and their sixteen-year-old daughter were present, the little member girl-sixteen-sitting between the dark father and mother, and it was evident she was several shades lighter than her parents—on the same reservation, in the same hogan, subject to the same sun and wind and weather.... These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness.

One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated.

 

(Improvement Era, December 1960, pp.922-23). (p. 209)

 



 

50 posted on 10/08/2011 6:09:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: Deagle
Why is there never THREE evils?
51 posted on 10/08/2011 6:10:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going)
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To: PETENICK1
Herman Cain is 20 points ahead of Romney.

I hope for Cain's sake he's not buying that ridiculous Zogby "interactive" poll. Ask Bachmann, Paul and Huntsman how Zogby's previous numbers are working out for them.

52 posted on 10/08/2011 6:14:14 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Elsie

Every time you accuse me of NOT being a Christian, you, a mere human, are condemning me to the eternal fires of hell. Are you sure you want to take that upon yourself, a mere human?

Now, when you say that I myself am condemning myself to eternal fires of hell, you are saying that my confession of faith in the Lord Jesus Christ is a lie.

Are you sure you want to continue to go down that road?

The evangelical pastor who said that Romney is NOT a Christian is also condemning Romney and every member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints to the eternal fires of hell. He, again, is a mere mortal, and not the Judge of our eternal souls.

This is dangerous territory for you to be swimming in - not dangerous for me but for you.

Amen.


53 posted on 10/08/2011 8:28:02 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: reaganaut

That’s great information. I had no idea.


54 posted on 10/08/2011 8:32:54 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: reaganaut

That’s great information. I had no idea.


55 posted on 10/08/2011 8:33:28 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Jeff Head

You are one of my heroes, FReeper pal. CTR forever!


56 posted on 10/08/2011 8:34:45 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: reaganaut; Salvation

“I know way too much about Mormonism to ever vote for one.”

During JFK’s run for the Presidency that’s what about a million Americans said about him: “I know way too much about Catholicism to ever vote for one.”

This is dirty politics at its worst.


57 posted on 10/08/2011 8:37:56 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: reaganaut

Jesus Christ died for me to save me from my sins. Your condemning me to hell is meaningless for He is my Judge, not you.


58 posted on 10/08/2011 8:40:33 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: reaganaut

Jesus Christ died for me to save me from my sins. Your condemning me to hell is meaningless for He is my Judge, not you.


59 posted on 10/08/2011 8:40:33 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: reaganaut

Jesus Christ died for me to save me from my sins. Your condemning me to hell is meaningless for He is my Judge, not you.


60 posted on 10/08/2011 8:40:52 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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