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Supremes Deciding How Close Government Can Watch You
wnd.com ^ | Bob Unruh

Posted on 10/07/2011 8:41:55 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2

Edited on 10/08/2011 7:10:08 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The Obama administration says that it has the right to attach a GPS unit to your vehicle and watch where you go, with whom you meet, where your children visit friends, whether you go to church or a bar or a bank all in the hope that investigators could develop the "probable cause" they would need to get a formal court order to search you and your possessions.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; fourthamendment; gps; gpstracking; warrantlesssearch

1 posted on 10/07/2011 8:42:01 PM PDT by Iam1ru1-2
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To: Iam1ru1-2

they already act like they own us. This is just a formality. And they sure know that, too.


2 posted on 10/07/2011 8:44:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

It’s high time to suggest that “public servants” disclose their real-time location, the contents of all their communications (mail, email, phone calls), bank balances, investments, major purchases, and of course address(es), phone number(s) and other such information. Because they’re here to serve us. What have they got to hide?


3 posted on 10/07/2011 8:48:21 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

>they already act like they own us

Interesting. Like zoo animals.


4 posted on 10/07/2011 8:57:44 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
The government has argued that the 'attachment' of a GPS tracking device on the 'exterior' of the Jones' Jeep was at most a 'technical trespass,' and therefore, was neither a search nor a seizure within the meaning of the Fourth Amendment

Government Lawyers = Evil
5 posted on 10/07/2011 9:00:58 PM PDT by microgood
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To: Christian Engineer Mass

More like livestock.


6 posted on 10/07/2011 9:01:13 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2
I find a GPS on my vehicle I'm going to do some one or more of the following... Ok, seriously for a minute... That last idea brings up an interesting point. What if you work on a base where radio transmissions of any kind are prohibited? In the past I have worked on such a facility. Due to ordnance storage, no RF emissions were allowed, period. (you weren't allowed to have a lighter/flame source at all, and your cigarette lighter had to be removed and in the glove compartment. And yes, they could and would stop and search your vehicle, that was a condition of employment) A GPS tracker transmitting your position would not only be a violation of the regulation (a firing offense) but a genuine safety hazard.
7 posted on 10/07/2011 9:02:08 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
Nice list. See that black dot? That is a protype, working RFID chip. Holographic, beautiful images. Little plastic, bandaid looking things stuck on cars. GPS. Cell phones. Anything metal. "Enemy of the State" wasn't just whistling "Dixie."
8 posted on 10/07/2011 9:07:56 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: combat_boots
See that black dot? That is a protype, working RFID

Too bad they couldn't use this technology on those GUNS walked across the border.

9 posted on 10/07/2011 9:14:52 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: combat_boots

Are RFID jammer tags illegal? Yet?


10 posted on 10/07/2011 9:22:26 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Don’t know.

I do like the aluma wallet idea. The info in our magnetic strips and holographs is just an electron away from vast computer networks.


11 posted on 10/07/2011 9:26:47 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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12 posted on 10/07/2011 11:11:46 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead

About time to find another country, if this one isn’t going to be ‘fixed’. I suppose we could all move to Antarctica....


13 posted on 10/07/2011 11:22:13 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Iam1ru1-2

If I inspect my car and see a gps unit on it I’m taking it off and destroying it. I would automatically assume evil intent and that thieves put it there so they’d know I was out of my house, in order to rob it without me there.


14 posted on 10/08/2011 12:07:16 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

The government’s position will be that tracking you while you’re already in public doesn’t qualify as surveillance because you have no “reasonable expectation” of privacy for things you do in public. This is reasonable to some extent
but to use it to justify this is an overreach, and here’s why: If you were being shadowed by a cop for 5 weeks, you’d know it, and “reasonable expectation” would indeed kick in because you wouldn’t do things you didn’t want him to see. In fact, a court might say having a cop shadow a guy for 5 weeks just trying to develop PC is overly intrusive anyway.


15 posted on 10/08/2011 12:49:31 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
If I inspect my car and see a gps unit on it I’m taking it off and destroying it. I would automatically assume evil intent and that thieves put it there so they’d know I was out of my house, in order to rob it without me there.

Or just remove it and leave it in the garage to give them disinformation. Why tip them off that their plot to snoop on you isn't working, whether we're talking about officially sanctioned crooks or the more mundane type?

16 posted on 10/08/2011 12:51:40 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

FUBO!!


17 posted on 10/08/2011 1:16:52 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Iam1ru1-2

“The Obama administration says that it has the right to attach a GPS unit to your vehicle and watch where you go, with whom you meet, where your children visit friends, whether you go to church or a bar or a bank...”

While the electorate, by contrast, does NOT have the right to see the president’s high school or college diplomas, his birth certificate, or even his proof of citizenship.

The hypocrisy is so glaring it would shine the brass off a cannon.

But it’s clear that Americans are no longer citizens in their own country; they are little more than serf’s in Barry’s personal socialist crap hole.


18 posted on 10/08/2011 6:17:52 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Jack Hammer

“While the electorate, by contrast, does NOT have the right to see the president’s high school or college diplomas, his birth certificate, or even his proof of citizenship.”

BTTT. And of course, in so many states, the public does cannot make the same argument when recording police behavior with a camera. God forbid someone tape a cop on the roadside and then use that “but he’s in public doing these things” in front of a judge when charged with “illegal recording” or “obstruction of justice” or some other crap.


19 posted on 10/08/2011 7:05:55 AM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Rick Perry sweep the polls? Naw, the illegals he's coddled in Texas do all his sweeping.)
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To: Jack Hammer

The irony of this discussion is how many people have GPS units in their cars. If the government gets its desired ruling, does it automatically gain access to the GPS data of those who already have GPS installed on their cars as well?


20 posted on 10/08/2011 8:06:00 AM PDT by tbw2
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21 posted on 10/08/2011 8:28:33 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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