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AG Holder responds to critics on Fast and Furious
cbsnews.com ^ | 10/07/2011 | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted on 10/07/2011 9:55:50 PM PDT by ha maker

In a letter to Congress, Attorney General Eric Holder has gone on the record with the most details yet about what he and other Justice Department officials knew about ATF's Fast and Furious operation, even though memos surfaced earlier this week showing multiple briefing memos mentioning Fast and Furious were sent to him as early as July of last year....

...Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether "additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico" and warned "until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change."

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KEYWORDS: atf; banglist; castaway; cia; dea; dhs; doj; fast; fastandfurious; fbi; furious; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; liar; obama
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1 posted on 10/07/2011 9:55:54 PM PDT by ha maker
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To: ha maker

Duplicate post. Sorry.


2 posted on 10/07/2011 10:00:04 PM PDT by ha maker (Sanity for lurkers)
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To: ha maker

“Additional tools?” They need to remove a tool, and that’s the AG himself.


3 posted on 10/07/2011 10:10:34 PM PDT by rfp1234 (RFP's Law: Whoever blames Bush first shall lose the argument.)
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To: ha maker

If he wants to help Congress stop the guns going over to Mexico,he seriously needs to ask if there is real private and meaningful traffic of arms going from the US over to Mexico.


4 posted on 10/07/2011 10:12:54 PM PDT by Del Rapier
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To: ha maker
“Every time I heard the phrase ‘Fast and Furious’ I thought they were referring to the Vin Diesel movie,” Holder said in his letter.
5 posted on 10/07/2011 10:16:44 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: ha maker

Message to AG Holder: Your department, your responsibility! Man up! By the way, up channel this message to Prez Zippy! Give him the same words of advice!


6 posted on 10/07/2011 10:23:38 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior ("To stand in silence when they should be protesting makes cowards out of men." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ha maker

Just like everyone in the current administration..He Lies!!


7 posted on 10/07/2011 10:25:14 PM PDT by berdie
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To: ha maker
Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether "additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico" and warned "until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change."

Time to start hammering him, Rep Issa!

8 posted on 10/07/2011 10:29:56 PM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: ha maker

I see he is not incarcerated yet...


9 posted on 10/07/2011 10:37:14 PM PDT by allmost
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To: ha maker

How about proper border security as a way to stem the flow of “illegal guns” as well as illegal aliens and drugs. Also, those who are accessories to murder in the DOJ should be prosecuted and put in prison. Fast and Furious is an example of a government out of control in a murderous operation designed to curtail the second amendment rights of law abiding citizens. The Democrats follow a guns kill people line so they should be held to that standard.


10 posted on 10/07/2011 10:39:16 PM PDT by jimnm
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To: ha maker
In his letter, Holder also criticized the House Committee investigating Fast and Furious, saying he cannot sit idly by "as law enforcement and government employees who devote their lives to protecting our citizens be considered 'accessories to murder'."

So, they violated laws American citizens would be thrown under the jail for committing, but being their hearts were in the right place, we should disregard all those destroyed lives.

Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether "additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico" and warned "until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change."

"Additional tools", such as an A. G. who's not stuck on stupid?

11 posted on 10/07/2011 10:45:42 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: ha maker

Rscist Republicans to blame.

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12 posted on 10/07/2011 10:54:35 PM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: ha maker

What did Scooter Libby do again?


13 posted on 10/07/2011 10:56:48 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: ha maker

Holder lie with impunity because he KNOWS Congress acn’t or won’t touch him. No special prosecutor will ever be appointed.


14 posted on 10/07/2011 11:01:34 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: hattend

(Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether “additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico” and warned “until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change.”)

The chutzpah of these people never ceases to amaze me. The only way they get away with it is because of their friends in the media. I have an idea for Holder to stem the flow of guns to Mexico: The Justice Department should stop sending weapons to Mexican drug cartels, a&&hole!


15 posted on 10/07/2011 11:30:33 PM PDT by winner3000 (ss)
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To: hattend

(Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether “additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico” and warned “until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change.”)

The chutzpah of these people never ceases to amaze me. The only way they get away with it is because of their friends in the media. I have an idea for Holder to stem the flow of guns to Mexico: The Justice Department should stop sending weapons to Mexican drug cartels, a&&hole!


16 posted on 10/07/2011 11:30:47 PM PDT by winner3000 (ss)
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To: winner3000

“until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change.”

“You never want a crisis to go to waste...”- Rahm Emanuel
Even if you have to create the crisis ... President Zero

The political climate will change only with a change in adminstration ~ and then it will hit the fan !!


17 posted on 10/08/2011 12:14:58 AM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt ( (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison))
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To: Dryman

darn Blackberry tiny keys!

I meant “Racist Republicans to Blame.”

Note to self:

Self,
no more posting from tiny keyboards.


18 posted on 10/08/2011 12:20:38 AM PDT by Dryman (Define Natural Born Citizen)
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To: ha maker

Lying sack of shiite same as the 3rd world Kenyan who appointed him. They should form a rap group. Whatever possessed Americans to vote for this 3rd world Kenyan with three Muslim names? No wonder Holder and Obama lie non-stop, they know Americans are fickle and dumb voters plus we have 50% of American voters getting Federal Gov’t payments so they will vote for lying POS Dems everytime if when they can get their arse to the polls


19 posted on 10/08/2011 12:21:29 AM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: rfp1234
“Additional tools?” They need to remove a tool, and that’s the AG himself.

*******

As I see it, if Holder did not know about the very serious Fast and Furious debacle until recently, then it shows that he is an incompetent Attorney General and Administrator, and so he should be replaced immediately by someone who knows what he is doing, and has the skills to know what the Justice Department is doing.

On the other hand, if Holder is lying and he knew all about and gave his approval to the Fast and Furious secret program all this time, then he must be forced out of office, because he is a liar, and we can't have someone as Attorney General who we cannot trust to tell us the truth about anything.

20 posted on 10/08/2011 12:47:10 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: john mirse
You are correct on both points. We all know he knew at least as far back as July 2010 and I suspect even well before then. However if we are willing to accept his defense that he was asleep at the switch then he is guilty of criminal negligence.

in either case many people are dead as a result of his action or non action.

21 posted on 10/08/2011 1:56:25 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: ha maker
This CBS story is really amazing. Typical Obama tactics blame everyone else. We are supposed to believe that Holders chief was completely up to date on all the elements of F&F except for the controversial parts. We are to believe that even though Holder meets with and talks to his chief every day they never discussed it. We are to believe his chief had unchecked authority over F&F.
22 posted on 10/08/2011 2:10:32 AM PDT by JIM O
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To: ha maker
.Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether "additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico"

You know, I would make the statement that this entire administration is dumber than a box of rocks but that really wouldn't even begin to describe the idiocy the Democrat Party has in the White House and on Capital Hill.

23 posted on 10/08/2011 2:22:53 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: Brad from Tennessee

24 posted on 10/08/2011 2:30:27 AM PDT by ex91B10 (The only option now is mass resistance.)
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To: ex91B10
G3A

Considering the level of stupidity on display Holder might want to consider an insanity defense.

25 posted on 10/08/2011 2:57:44 AM PDT by BobP (The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
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To: ha maker

Get rid of Holder and another Holder can be found quickly..
The AG Office is full of them.. actually Washington D.C. is full of them..

Getting rid of Holder is a “Pipe Dream”.. and is delusional..


26 posted on 10/08/2011 3:28:42 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe

When you have elected an in your face Marxist as President.. the AG is small potatoes..


27 posted on 10/08/2011 3:30:32 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: ha maker
...Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether "additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico" and warned "until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change."

Yep - he's dumb. Congress had the "let's not come up with a program to arm the cartels to set up a repeal of the 2nd Amendment" tool. The political climate he complains about is that they don't have 100% free-run and impunity to continue with the subversion/treason/cover-ups.

28 posted on 10/08/2011 3:49:14 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: ha maker

“...with what he knows...”. I call Bullsh!t!

Consider this, not only was there coordination amongst a NUMBER of Executive agencies which no bureaucrat would try to initiate on his own but let us assume, for the sake of attempting to reveal truth, some individual DID do just that (which is what Zero and his buddy Holder are expecting us to believe). What would their reaction be if that were actually the case?

I assure you that they would not be bunkering in and hoping it blows over. No they would have that person in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit so fast it would give everyone vertigo! They would be holding that person up in the Klieg lights by the nape of the neck like a puppy that just peed on the carpet! The fact that this is NOT what is happening tells one everything you need to know. THERE IS NO SUCH INDIVIDUAL. Ergot, Fast and Furious came from “the top”.


29 posted on 10/08/2011 3:52:01 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

holder is such a dishonest boob. Shouldn’t he be in jail or something? The fact that he isn’t in the dock is a sad commentary on current “justice” in America.


30 posted on 10/08/2011 4:18:42 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
“Every time I heard the phrase ‘Fast and Furious’ I thought they were referring to the Vin Diesel movie,” Holder said in his letter.

He would think that way, him with his B-movie Justice Dept.

31 posted on 10/08/2011 4:28:42 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: hosepipe
Getting rid of Holder is a “Pipe Dream”.. and is delusional..

While "delusional" may be a little extreme, getting rid of him may be may not be as productive as leaving him there, swinging in the wind along with The Kenyan.

Just think of the campaign ads that are being written as we speak. Someone new in the office would deny us this.

32 posted on 10/08/2011 4:47:02 AM PDT by Tonytitan
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To: wastoute
No they would have that person in handcuffs and an orange jumpsuit so fast it would give everyone vertigo!

Correct. They can't find any person responsible for this heinous fiasco?

No, because they themselves are so clearly guilty.

33 posted on 10/08/2011 5:27:43 AM PDT by Siena Dreaming
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To: Tonytitan

Holder may be forcing the U.S. to get it’s MIND RIGHT!!..
Barry Half-White is just a Kabuki player..


34 posted on 10/08/2011 5:40:52 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: hosepipe
Get rid of Holder and another Holder can be found quickly..
The AG Office is full of them.. actually Washington D.C. is full of them..

Reminiscent of organizations our nation is at war with, one might say.

35 posted on 10/08/2011 5:42:45 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen. --> AmeriCain)
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36 posted on 10/08/2011 5:45:59 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: ha maker
This what happens we we elect an atheistic ideologue into the office of POTUS without the even the simplest effort to vett his qualifications to lead this once great nation in her judeo-Christian founding ideals. We failed as a people to protect her from evil and evil now is in control of this nation, just as it is in control of much the world as a whole. Hurry up an come Lord, and may the hand of God the Father wipe away the iniquity of our ways...unfortunately our nation, with its current atheistic socialism, will bear much of the brunt of that Hand's force.
37 posted on 10/08/2011 5:47:00 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: ha maker
...Holder blamed Congress for failing to consider whether "additional tools are needed to stem the flow of guns to Mexico" and warned "until we move beyond the current political climate..nothing is going to change."

All we have to do is get the DOJ out of the gun running business

38 posted on 10/08/2011 5:48:00 AM PDT by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: JIM O

Holder has had plenty of time to prepare the Acting Inspector General’s report on Fast and Furious, but nothing has happened. Oh, I forgot. The AIG is an old friend of Holder, and she has kept the Arizona group well-informed of what she is up to.

The corruption at DOJ is so pervasive it will demand an immediate housecleaning in January 2013. The Republicans should pay some entity, The Heritage Foundation comes to mind, to provide an action plan that can be put into effect on that date. The same should be done for Energy and Education.


39 posted on 10/08/2011 5:56:12 AM PDT by Melchior
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To: ha maker

Attkisson waited that long to produce a nothing-burger article on a pro forma letter? When there are so many F&F agents willing to tell their story? CBS got to her...


40 posted on 10/08/2011 6:08:42 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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Sharyl, let me give you some advice:
41 posted on 10/08/2011 6:15:29 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: ha maker

“”In a letter to Congress, Attorney General Eric Holder has gone on the record “”

I’d sure like to see that letter posted. Someone held it up on FOX last night and it was several pages - a VERY thick letter. I guess LOTS of words and pages make it more trustworthy.


42 posted on 10/08/2011 7:04:53 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Melchior

“”The same should be done for Energy and Education””

Don’t forget the State Department.......


43 posted on 10/08/2011 7:06:24 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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To: Thank You Rush
I think the gist of the letter is that Holder doesn't read his emails or memos, and that someone else reads them. Therefore he can't be held accountable for anything in the justice department.

The current climate dictates that only racists would believe he is accountable for issues in his email or memos.

44 posted on 10/08/2011 7:34:49 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ha maker

If Holder was under oath under penalty of perjury, then he cannot modify his statement later to escape the penalty of perjury. That’s the law, as I have been told.


45 posted on 10/08/2011 7:36:00 AM PDT by savedbygrace (But God.)
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To: Thank You Rush

posted on earlier thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2789531/posts?page=23#23


46 posted on 10/08/2011 7:38:19 AM PDT by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: savedbygrace

The bad news is that he wasn’t under oath..
Heard or read that ..so I don’t have a link..


47 posted on 10/08/2011 7:38:29 AM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: PA-RIVER
From the article, Holder doesn't read his memos (He's an innocent Man, he doesn't actually do the job of AG, he just collects the paycheck) :

The Attorney General says that while he was sent received memos on Fast and Furious, they are “actually provided to and reviewed by members of my staff and the staff of the Office of the Deputy Attorney General.”

48 posted on 10/08/2011 7:40:36 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
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To: ha maker

"CONGRESS IS RACIST!!!" alert


49 posted on 10/08/2011 7:52:34 AM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: MEG33

Issa was asked in an interview on Fox News if Holder was under oath. His reply was, “YES!”


50 posted on 10/08/2011 8:10:15 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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