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The Hot New Theory About What Happened To The US Economy (Everything Is Okay Now)
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| 10-8-2011
| Joe Weisenthal
Posted on 10/08/2011 5:13:45 AM PDT by blam
The Hot New Theory About What Happened To The US Economy
Joe Weisenthal
Oct. 8, 2011, 6:27 AM
Something weird is happening with the economic data in September: It's okay!
Datapoint after datapoint screams: The economy is mediocre, but it's not collapsing.
For example...
* The September jobs report was a lot better than the August jobs report.
* Rail traffic is growing.
* Car sales were downright HOT in September.
* Retail sales? Check.
* Construction spending was fine too.
There was certainly some weak data, as things are not amazing, but the numbers haven't been heart-stopping the way some of the August numbers were (like that goose-egg jobs report, which later got revised higher).
So what's going on?
One theory that's clearly pretty hot: The economy this summer suffered a confidence shock with the debt ceiling crisis, causing an artificial slowdown.
There's a basis for this. A poll showed that the whole fiasco hit consumer confidence in the same way as Katrina and 9/11 did.
This table from Calculated Risk shows what, historically, how long it's taken to rebound from external shocks in consumer confidence.
Event Driven Declines in Consumer Sentiment
(Go to the site to view the chart)
So this is the hot new meme: The economy is okay, but we had a damaging freakout at an inopportune time but now we're recovering (knock on wood, anyway).
(snip)
(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...
TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: confidence; economy; recession; recovery
I've been saying, everything is okay.
Vote For Obama.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:13:48 AM PDT
by
blam
To: blam
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:19:04 AM PDT
by
blam
((Deliberate Cruelty Is The Worst Of Human Offenses - Kenko))
To: blam
This article must have been written by graduates of the “Debbie Wasserman-Schultz College of Economics”.
3
posted on
10/08/2011 5:20:25 AM PDT
by
radioone
("2012 can't come soon enough")
To: blam

The economy is fine! There is no recession! We have everything under control!...........
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:21:42 AM PDT
by
Red Badger
(Furthermore, I think Obama must be impeached....................)
To: blam
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:22:52 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
To: blam
I have never heard of returning striking workers being added to the employment numbers to fluff it. Is this something new?
6
posted on
10/08/2011 5:25:41 AM PDT
by
Perdogg
(I would vote for Pawnstar Chumlee, before I would vote for 0bama)
To: blam
LOL! I’ve seen people routinely eviscerated at staff meetings for using hollow and meaningless descriptors like “growing”, “HOT”, “fine” and “check” in their management briefings.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:28:48 AM PDT
by
PowderMonkey
(WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
To: blam
For a long time, I actually hoped the economy would improve in spite of Obama, but I guess we all know how that hope crap really works.
I’m guessing the economy will start turning around late next year when it becomes obvious we’ll have both houses and the presidency.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:31:11 AM PDT
by
umgud
To: Perdogg
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:32:12 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
(Forget a third party. We need a second one.)
To: PowderMonkey
LOL! Ive seen people routinely eviscerated at staff meetings for using hollow and meaningless descriptors like growing, HOT, fine and check in their management briefings.Not ONE of those words is used in MY management briefing: Our firm has exhibited leadership by enhancing the facilitation of synergystic, scalable core-competancy paradigm-shifts vis-a-vis the most granular service point of difference, empowering the ongoing assurance of the product architecture being functionally equivalent and parallel to the longitudinal business-practice shift postulated by the use of mission-critical management dialogue technology on a go-forward basis, in accordance with ISO-9001:2008 standards
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:35:12 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
To: blam
September? The stores are putting out their Christmas stuff, the Auto industry is coming out with new model cars, the 2011 models are being reduced. Surprise! Jobs and Car sales are up. Duuuuh.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:35:38 AM PDT
by
Bringbackthedraft
(Palin/Cain, Cain/West, Palin/ West, Cain /Palin, Palin/ Rubio, Cain/Rubio, = all good)
To: blam
The peeps espousing this stuff always seem to forget a little thing called “math,” don’t they? What will they say when the proverbial fecal matter hits the oscillating rotary device? It was “unexpected?” Silly rabbits.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:38:11 AM PDT
by
sayuncledave
(et Verbum caro factum est)
To: Lazamataz
Dang...I stand in awe. Mind if I borrow that for my next briefing?
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:39:06 AM PDT
by
PowderMonkey
(WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
To: Perdogg
I had no idea you could just leave your job because you wanted more money,collect unemployment and then come back to the same job.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:39:25 AM PDT
by
linn37
To: PowderMonkey
You can use it. You won’t be dinged for using the four forbidden words, and everyone will STILL be befuddled. Win/Win.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:41:00 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
("If Herman Cain does become President, his Vice President will be known as Co-Cain." -- Laz, 2011)
To: Lazamataz
A couple of more buzzwords, and soon you will be CEO!.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:41:43 AM PDT
by
factoryrat
(We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
To: Lazamataz
Haha — and don’t forget to “leverage the low-hanging fruit going forward.” :-D
To: Red Badger
| Zer0 knows what he is doing, and he's not going to change course with his economy. We'll see his sustained propaganda and lies until election eve. The game played by the Marxists is war where the end justifies the means. No matter how it's dressed up, it's an assault on America's freedom. The winning rule in 2012: a direct and non-stop political attack on Obama's record! |
Obama -- My policies are based on a robust economic model: A big sinking ship raises the water level
for smaller ships. Millionaires don't have a right to keep any of their hard-earned cash. At a certain
point you've made enough money. And trade in that gas-guzzling SUV. Countdown until Zer0 leaves Office: 470 days as of October 7, 2011.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:48:07 AM PDT
by
BobP
(The piss-stream media - Never to be watched again in my house)
To: Lazamataz
Your next mission, should you choose to accept, is to infiltrate the DNC national convention:
DoubleTalk
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:51:42 AM PDT
by
PowderMonkey
(WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
To: Lazamataz; PowderMonkey
Our firm has exhibited leadership by enhancing the facilitation of synergystic, scalable core-competancy paradigm-shifts vis-a-vis the most granular service point of difference, empowering the ongoing assurance of the product architecture being functionally equivalent and parallel to the longitudinal business-practice shift postulated by the use of mission-critical management dialogue technology on a go-forward basis, in accordance with ISO-9001:2008 standards
I'd love to have seen
Richard Mitchell's take on the quote above.
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posted on
10/08/2011 5:57:10 AM PDT
by
aruanan
To: blam
Mail volume increased 3%. Changes of as little as .1% are SERIOUS ~
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:14:42 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: blam
IMHO....there’s some truth to this. There are still Americans that can get by, make a buck and have a close enough to good life DESPITE the idiots in Washington that our economy is limping along. We are barely out of the last recession, but things are probably not going to crash and burn. That is NOT to say we are doing well, or that 4 more years of the big 0 won’t be enough to send us over the cliff. The best analogy I can come up with is from a Monty Python movie, where our economy is the guy yelling “I’m not quite dead yet”...and Barry is the son trying to toss us on the wagon.
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:17:59 AM PDT
by
jdsteel
(Cain vs. Not Able.......now that Sarah's out.)
To: PowderMonkey
"LOL! Ive seen people routinely eviscerated at staff meetings for using hollow and meaningless descriptors like growing, HOT, fine and check in their management briefings." Yup. I once had an engineer describe to me something being 'dead-nuts-on'. I couldn't help myself, I laughed out loud. (A good engineer always has a number, +-)
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:23:31 AM PDT
by
blam
((Deliberate Cruelty Is The Worst Of Human Offenses - Kenko))
To: Lazamataz
I was about to say That's nothing but Yak Squeeze! until I got to "in accordance with ISO-9001:2008 standards".
Well...ok, then. That's more like it. Good to finally hear some straight talk!
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:24:31 AM PDT
by
GBA
(The Constitution and conservatism must win in 2012!)
To: Lazamataz
ISO ~ my eyes glaze over.
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:25:45 AM PDT
by
muawiyah
To: Perdogg
I have never heard of returning striking workers being added to the employment numbers to fluff it. Is this something new?
The BLS collects two sets of data:
.one from individuals -
the Household Survey; .one from employers -
the Payroll Survey or Establishment Data
The data from the Household Survey is generally considered more accurate and is used to get the unemployment rate. It counts the number of people working. The establishment data counts the number of jobs, not people working; one person can hold multiple jobs.
The introduction to the BLS monthly
empsit (Employment Situation Summary) mixes data from both sources.
The 45,000 striking workers are reflected in the Establishment data which reports +103,000 payroll jobs.
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:27:01 AM PDT
by
algernonpj
(He who pays the piper . . .)
To: mewzilla
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:32:36 AM PDT
by
blam
((Deliberate Cruelty Is The Worst Of Human Offenses - Kenko))
To: blam

NEVERMIND!
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:35:33 AM PDT
by
texas_mrs
(Heartless Conservative & Native Texan)
To: blam
Place: North Atlantic.
Year: 1912
Date: April 15
Time: Ten minutes after striking an iceberg.
First Mate: "Captain, I have good news and bad news."
Captain: "What's the bad news?"
First Mate: "We struck an iceberg."
Captain: "The good news?"
First Mate: "We're still afloat."
To: hemogoblin
Oh dear Lord. “Low hanging fruit” is the current buzz phrase in my office. You’d think I we all worked in an orchard.
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posted on
10/08/2011 6:49:38 AM PDT
by
6SJ7
(46 55 42 4f)
To: blam
It’s not that there is a shortage of jobs, it’s more like there are too many people.
We need a program to reduce the number of people so that it matches the number of jobs. (/libtard think)
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posted on
10/08/2011 7:04:36 AM PDT
by
CPOSharky
(The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
To: Lazamataz
LOL! May I use that beautiful multi-syllabic monstrosity in my next memo?
One of the small pleasures I allow myself at work is to edit out all the cheerleading pom-pom waving boilerplate and b/s that infest the management memos which cascade into my office email every day.
The length of any given memo is usually reduced by 40-50 pct.
To: blam
The calm before the storm.
A very big storm.
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posted on
10/08/2011 7:34:54 AM PDT
by
exit82
(Democrats are the enemies of freedom.)
To: exit82
"The calm before the storm.""A very big storm."
Yup...that's what many are saying.
Now, many are saying that were are already in a recovery and that things will be fine.
How can these opinions be so far apart?
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posted on
10/08/2011 10:36:36 AM PDT
by
blam
((Deliberate Cruelty Is The Worst Of Human Offenses - Kenko))
To: blam
How can these opinions be so far apart?Because one is the truth, and one is wishful thinking.
The economic fundamentals have not changed, either here or in Europe.
The dollar bubble and the government debt bubble are going to pop. And when they do, and the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency and no one wants to buy our Treasuries, we are screwed.
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posted on
10/08/2011 10:48:30 AM PDT
by
exit82
(Democrats are the enemies of freedom.)
To: blam
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posted on
10/08/2011 10:48:54 AM PDT
by
blam
((Deliberate Cruelty Is The Worst Of Human Offenses - Kenko))
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