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Harry Reidís nuclear blunder
Washington Post ^ | October 7, 2011 | Marc A. Thiessen

Posted on 10/08/2011 10:55:58 AM PDT by Kaslin

On Thursday night, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) triggered the so-called nuclear option — unilaterally changing Senate rules by a simple majority vote to stop the minority from forcing votes on uncomfortable amendments. It’s the same tactic the majority would use to undercut the minority’s ability to filibuster. And that’s why it’s called “nuclear” — it dramatically alters the balance of power between the majority and minority. It is not a step to be taken lightly.

What great matter drove Reid to push the nuclear button? Apparently Republican leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) was threatening to force a vote on the original version of President Obama’s jobs bill, to show how few Democrats were willing to support it. In other words, Reid invoked the nuclear option to avoid a political embarrassment for his party

Recall that in 2005, Republicans contemplated invoking the nuclear option over a matter of substance — to stop Democrats from using filibusters to delay judicial confirmations. Before that crisis was defused, one Democratic senator railed against the GOP plan as an attempt to trample the rights of the minority, calling it a violation of “the constitutional principles of checks and balances” and declaring, “If there were ever an example of an abuse of power, this is it. The filibuster is the last check we have against the abuse of power in Washington.”

The senator’s name? Harry Reid.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; US: Nevada
KEYWORDS: demagogicparty; dingyharry; harryreid; nevada; nuclearoption

1 posted on 10/08/2011 10:56:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Harry Reid could be the MOST VILE Senator Except for Shumer, Durbin, Boxer, Stabenow, Kerry, just to name a few!!


2 posted on 10/08/2011 11:00:32 AM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Kaslin

The GOPer Goobers need to remember this. What goes around, comes around. Next time, DON’T HESITATE. Push the button.


3 posted on 10/08/2011 11:02:42 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: Kaslin
"In other words, trampling the rights of the minority when you are poised to become the minority isn’t particularly smart."

Of course, it isn't! What else would you expect from that mental midget, Harry Reid?!

4 posted on 10/08/2011 11:10:55 AM PDT by mellow velo
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Kaslin.
Recall that in 2005, Republicans contemplated invoking the nuclear option over a matter of substance -- to stop Democrats from using filibusters to delay judicial confirmations. Before that crisis was defused, one Democratic senator railed against the GOP plan as an attempt to trample the rights of the minority, calling it a violation of "the constitutional principles of checks and balances" and declaring, "If there were ever an example of an abuse of power, this is it. The filibuster is the last check we have against the abuse of power in Washington." The senator's name? Harry Reid.

5 posted on 10/08/2011 11:12:03 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Kaslin
But now, thanks to Reid, they may not need 60 votes. Reid has established that the majority can ignore the rules in order to gag the minority and declare something dilatory by simple majority vote. This is a filibuster-busting precedent that a Republican majority could use to overcome Democratic opposition on any number of issues — from taxes and spending to revising the debt-limit deal, reversing defense spending cuts and even repealing Obamacare.

Does anyone at FR really really believe the GOP would use this against the RAT party? Many in the GOP - including leadership - shake in their boots when you use the word media. Come on now,.....and anyway Reid will just simply reverse this decision on Dec 31, 2012.

Until the GOP learns how to counter the evil down and dirty tactics of the libtard left, we will never win the war.
6 posted on 10/08/2011 11:12:59 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
They won't.

The GOP Majority Leader will be easily cajoled into changing the rule back as the first order of business.

-PJ

7 posted on 10/08/2011 11:14:24 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (Everyone's Irish on St. Patrick's Day, Mexican on Cinco de Mayo, and American on Election Day.)
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To: Kaslin

I think the general rule is:

1. Liberals are allowed to do whatever the heck they want, whatever will help the liberal cause, at any given time. If it means waiving long standing rules of parliamentary procedures in Congress, so be it. It’s all good as long as done to support a liberal cause.

2. Liberals hold the conservatives strictly to the rules of parliamentary procedure. Liberals raise hell if the conservatives would ever consider taking such actions in support of conservative causes.


8 posted on 10/08/2011 11:14:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Kaslin

One of the biggest mistakes ever made was making Senatorial elections into direct elections. The original design with state legislatures appointing them was MUCH MUCH better. Right now the Senate is just another House of Representatives, only with different rules and procedures. Stupid....


9 posted on 10/08/2011 11:22:32 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: FlingWingFlyer

They don’t have the f****** guts. I’m sick of them all.


10 posted on 10/08/2011 11:22:38 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012¬óThey vote twice¬ó we'll vote three times.)
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To: Kaslin

I remember when the Repubs considered this in the early 2000’s and realized it was a stupid thing to do.


11 posted on 10/08/2011 11:24:20 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To the left the truth looks Right-Wing.)
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To: Kaslin

And we have this POS in the Senate because of a bunch of illiterate and probably illegal Hotel Workers in Las Vegas and Reno. That’s his base, the Union Workers (SEIU) in the Hotel Industry. He gets 90% something percent of these voters and that’s enough for him to win the election. I cannot believe this man (if you want to call him that) is elected time and again. He’s the very sort of person who is destroying the country. I absolutely despise the man. He’s wrong on just about everything. Harry Reid is an absolutely despicable person.


12 posted on 10/08/2011 11:24:45 AM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough.)
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To: Kaslin

they better do this nuke option to repeal deathcare, first day of the new session.


13 posted on 10/08/2011 11:25:03 AM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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To: mellow velo

“In other words, trampling the rights of the minority when you are poised to become the minority isn’t particularly smart.”

The plan is to tell the Democrat base “you’ve GOT to keep us in the majority - there’s no more filibuster!”

You read it here first.


14 posted on 10/08/2011 11:27:20 AM PDT by I Shall Endure
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To: Kaslin
Reid may come to regret his nuclear hypocrisy if he becomes minority leader again in 2012.

It's only fair that Harry regret something, as I know a lot of us regret Harry.

15 posted on 10/08/2011 11:31:12 AM PDT by econjack
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To: rigelkentaurus

Doubtfull....unless some Republicans grow a backbone. I hope Republicans can take the Senate in 2012 and get a good Majority leader like DeMint! But we will probably get a Rino leader that wants to make nice with the Democrats like my own Discrace Sen. Lindsey Graham


16 posted on 10/08/2011 11:42:06 AM PDT by jakerobins
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To: Kaslin

I can’t help to think this is part of a larger strategy that Reid has started to ram home the Marxist agenda before January 20, 2013.


17 posted on 10/08/2011 11:52:39 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Kaslin

Thank you for posting this. It makes be truly sick to read this and understand the kind of “jerk” that the head of the Senate really is.

bump for future reference


18 posted on 10/08/2011 12:01:06 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Kaslin

Harry Reid is a nuclear blunder.


19 posted on 10/08/2011 12:05:08 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Truth29

I think you’re right.

Assume nobama and the Senate Dems loose next November. That means, just like 2010, they’ll have two months of lame duckism to rain destruction down on the US. And now that the “simple majority rules,” it will be even easier.

To say nothing of the mischief they’ve got planned from now till then.


20 posted on 10/08/2011 12:19:33 PM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: Political Junkie Too
They won't.

The GOP Majority Leader will be easily cajoled into changing the rule back as the first order of business.

-PJ

The Dems will change it back themselves during the lame duck session, forcing the Republicans to face the media if they want to change it.

21 posted on 10/08/2011 12:38:03 PM PDT by khenrich (And people thought Jimmy Carter was our worst president........)
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To: Kaslin
"Reid’s decision could have immediate consequences. During the 2005 standoff, Reid warned that Democrats would bring the Senate to a halt if Republicans pulled the nuclear trigger. In a letter to then-Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.), Reid declared ominously: “The Senate conducts most of its business by cooperation and consent. The minority provides that consent with the expectation that the courtesies it extends to the majority will be met with respect for minority rights. And no Senate right is more fundamental than the right to debate. Should the majority choose to break the rules that give us that right, the majority should not expect to receive cooperation from the minority in the conduct of Senate business. . . . [W]e will be reluctant to enter into any consent agreement that facilitates Senate activities, even on routine matters. . . . We would decline to provide such cooperation in the future if you implement the nuclear option.” _______________ I don't think Mark Thiessen gets the strategy here. Harry Reid fully expects the Republicans to do exactly as he threatened back in 2005. And with the media on their side to not explain the hypocrisy of what Reid just did, the Republicans will actually BE obstructionist & fulfill the bogus accusations that Obama has been lodging against them, and he can continue his Harry Trumanesque campaign against the 'do nothing congress'.
22 posted on 10/08/2011 1:02:42 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Republicans in DC are out looking for their gonads with both hands and a mirror and coming up empty handed, IMO. Spineless, gutless eunuchs one and all.


23 posted on 10/08/2011 1:03:48 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Kaslin

Always remember - the Federation vowed to never create or implement a cloaking device. Pubbies = Federation — Demonrats = Klingons/Romulans. Now there is an analogy anyone can use...Stevie666


24 posted on 10/08/2011 1:07:57 PM PDT by szweig (HYHEY!! (Have You Had Enough Yet))
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To: szweig

Mittens can work with the Rats


25 posted on 10/08/2011 1:12:47 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: truthguy

dittos plus the LA Times highlighted crooked land deals by him in a five part series about 5 years ago. All his sons are lawyers and one would presume “connected” lawyers like the old man


26 posted on 10/08/2011 1:18:11 PM PDT by dennisw (nzt - works better if you're already smart)
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To: I Shall Endure

The plan by the rats is to no longer have elections.

Been their plan since Wilson. Nothing more, nothing less.


27 posted on 10/08/2011 2:17:54 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: FlingWingFlyer
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Red Phone for Senators John McCain and Lindsay Graham ...

Senator Ried from Nevada is on the line ... waiting for YOUR apology ... /sarcasm-off


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28 posted on 10/08/2011 2:31:48 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: FlingWingFlyer
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Red Phone for Senators John McCain and Lindsay Graham ...

Senator Reid from Nevada is on the line ... waiting for YOUR apology ... /sarcasm-off


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29 posted on 10/08/2011 2:32:12 PM PDT by Patton@Bastogne
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To: TribalPrincess2U

You are so right...there has never been a republican leader in the senate with any brass ones...


30 posted on 10/08/2011 3:22:35 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: Kaslin

I approve of using the nuclear option. I absolutely despise the filibuster. It is used to undermine the clear intention of the US Constitution, and it is used to prevent dangerous decisions from being easily over-ridden.

For example, now that we can over-ride the unofficial 60-vote rule in the US Senate, ObamaCare can be changed with a simple majority vote.

That is HUGE. And Series.


31 posted on 10/08/2011 3:44:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: Twotone
And with the media on their side to not explain the hypocrisy of what Reid just did, the Republicans will actually BE obstructionist & fulfill the bogus accusations that Obama has been lodging against them, and he can continue his Harry Trumanesque campaign against the 'do nothing congress'.

I think and HOPE you are wrong. My basis is the fact that the MSMedia is no longer sole source as it was under Clinton (last 2-term Dem) and Obama really has nothing left. Truman in 1948 still had his WW2 victory, a post-war recession and the old FDR coalition that had not seen a Republican in the Presidency for 16 years.

Obama has 3 years of unfulfilled hope leaving us with negative change. Even his media natural allies cannot help but see the naked emperor and it makes good news stories which is their lifeblood.

We will have all of our work cut out for us in 2012 but we have a chance for a 60 seat Senate, stronger majority House and NObama in the WH! It won't be paradise but we do have our best chance to restore OUR CIVIL RIGHTS!!!

32 posted on 10/08/2011 4:08:59 PM PDT by SES1066 (Vote in 2012 for OUR CIVIL RIGHTS not the Left's!)
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