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Nestle chief warns of new food riots
http://news.yahoo.com/nestle-chief-warns-food-riots-115947524.html ^ | 10-7-11 | AFP

Posted on 10/08/2011 7:53:45 PM PDT by dynachrome

The head of the world's biggest food company Nestle said on Friday that rising food prices have created conditions "similar" to 2008 when hunger riots took place in many countries.

"The situation is similar (to 2008). This has become the new reality," the Swiss giant's chairman Peter Brabeck-Letmathe told the Salzburger Nachrichten daily in his native Austria in an interview.

"We have reached a level of food prices that is substantially higher than before. It will likely settle down at this level.

"If you live in a developing country and spend 80 percent of your income on food then of course you are going to feel it more than here (in Europe) where it is maybe eight percent."

In 2008, the price of cereals reached historic levels, provoking a food crisis and riots in a number of African countries, as well as in Haiti and the Philippines.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: burningfood; economicholocaust; ethanol; foodprices; foodriots; foodsupply; nestle; nonsense; ntsa; opec; preparedness; realitychallenged; sourcetitlenoturl
"Let them eat chocolate!"

(sorry, couldn't resist)

1 posted on 10/08/2011 7:53:57 PM PDT by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

Thank you Mr. Obama.


2 posted on 10/08/2011 7:55:37 PM PDT by doc1019 (You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.)
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To: dynachrome

OH FUDGE!


3 posted on 10/08/2011 7:57:02 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: dynachrome

Well, when the dollar is debased on a regular basis, this is to be expected.


4 posted on 10/08/2011 7:58:14 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: dynachrome

Ah shucks....I need to lose weight anyway.
No more Swiss Chocolate for me.


5 posted on 10/08/2011 7:59:08 PM PDT by marty60
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To: dynachrome

The US has spent more than 50 years showing the rest of the world how to grow more food than they can possibly eat.

They don’t want to.

Let the bastards starve to death.

See tagline.


6 posted on 10/08/2011 7:59:46 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Overproduction, one of the top five worries of the American Farmer each and every year..)
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To: dynachrome

NOW can we stop turning corn into ethanol, Iowa??


7 posted on 10/08/2011 8:00:10 PM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: dynachrome
N E S T L E S
8 posted on 10/08/2011 8:01:30 PM PDT by Brandonmark (2012: Our Hope IS Change!)
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To: dynachrome

Subsidies and tariffs: just the thing to put a little drama in your life.


9 posted on 10/08/2011 8:01:52 PM PDT by yup2394871293
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To: dynachrome

Gosh. I wonder what the world would be like if someone could come up with a way to genetically alter seed so that its crop could be bountiful even during drought and other natural occurances.

oh....wait a minute....


10 posted on 10/08/2011 8:04:54 PM PDT by digger48
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To: dynachrome

Nearly all of the starvation in the world is political in origin.


11 posted on 10/08/2011 8:06:15 PM PDT by lurk
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‘Tis the plan of the Leftist bastards in charge.


12 posted on 10/08/2011 8:09:08 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: dynachrome
"The increases are blamed on speculative commodity trading, climate change, rising populations and changing eating habits in countries like India and China, most notably an increase in meat consumption by a growing middle class.

Brabeck-Letmathe said another factor was water, saying humans were "using more water than is sustainable" and calling for the price of water to rise in order to encourage firms and consumers to be less wasteful.

Sorry - this sets of my super-sensitive libtard BS detector.

13 posted on 10/08/2011 8:15:43 PM PDT by caper gal 1 (Cain/Rubio 2012)
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To: dynachrome

I went into WAL*MART for a few things the other day and I felt like I was in downtown Stalingrad..there was no produce..just empty crates as far as the eye could see..my girlfriend said...”Is there a food shortage we don’t know about?”....crazy..and this is in central NY too.


14 posted on 10/08/2011 8:20:34 PM PDT by leenie312
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To: lurk

Nearly all of the starvation in the world is political in origin.


You’re right.


15 posted on 10/08/2011 8:22:17 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Nestle... yeah... the company that had that Third World infant formula scandal... all worried about declining chocolate demand...

Rising food prices? OPEC’s fault.

Thanks dynachrome.


16 posted on 10/08/2011 8:22:53 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: dynachrome

Put down the chocolate and nobody will get hurt.


17 posted on 10/08/2011 8:35:11 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: headstamp 2

Well, when the dollar is debased on a regular basis, this is to be expected.


Interesting how they never mention that fact in these articles...


18 posted on 10/08/2011 8:38:29 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: lurk

Nearly all of the starvation in the world is political in origin.

Exactly true. Somalia, Nigeris, even South Asia.


19 posted on 10/08/2011 8:39:35 PM PDT by JimSEA (The future ain't what it used to be.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

The US has spent more than 50 years showing the rest of the world how to grow more food than they can possibly eat.

They don’t want to.


Excellent point!


20 posted on 10/08/2011 8:39:36 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: ROTB

Just wondering, do you know the percentage of Iowa corn that is used for Ethanol? Percent of US corn used for Ethanol?


21 posted on 10/08/2011 8:40:58 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: dynachrome
food riots


22 posted on 10/08/2011 8:45:06 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: bushwon

more of it’s brazilian, iirc.


23 posted on 10/08/2011 8:46:21 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand (...then they came for the guitars, and we kicked their sorry faggot asses into the dust)
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To: leenie312

Must have been the first of the month when everybody got their food stamps. There is a cheaper grocery store here that is to be avoided for the first several days each month. Bare shelves. Too many people, most who don’t speak English. And it is kinda shameful when all we can afford that week barely covers the bottom of a cart and there are people with a couple of carts loaded to the gills both behind and in front of you in line.


24 posted on 10/08/2011 8:47:50 PM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: dynachrome

Sucks to be them.


25 posted on 10/08/2011 8:48:41 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~)
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To: leenie312

“I went into WAL*MART for a few things the other day and I felt like I was in downtown Stalingrad”

Thank you! The great variety Walmart used to provide has long since disapeared, but when I see long shelves filled with only a few items to take up space, and really cheap, crappy merchandise, I’m reminded of shopping in East Berlin before The Wall came down. I’ve wondered if anyone has thought the same!


26 posted on 10/08/2011 8:54:51 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: bushwon

“Just wondering, do you know the percentage of Iowa corn that is used for Ethanol? Percent of US corn used for Ethanol?”

While those numbers are important, a big factor to consider is the fruit and vegitables not being grown. That ground is being given over to Ethanol corn.


27 posted on 10/08/2011 8:59:48 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: WestwardHo

Just wondering if anyone has any actual statistics.

You bring up an interesting point, tho I believe farmers do fallow the land and rotate crops and have for many years prior to ethanol.

That said, tho I don’t agree with the government subsidies for ethanol, in a capitalist society, shouldn’t farmers be able to grow whatever crops they want and whatever makes them the most money (As I said,I would get the government out of ethanol subsidies ). Besides, outside of perhaps soybeans, what fruits and vegetables are not being grown in Iowa in lieu of corn?


28 posted on 10/08/2011 9:07:21 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

Besides, outside of perhaps soybeans, what fruits and vegetables are not being grown in Iowa in lieu of corn?

Can’t answer that. I live in New Mexico. Of course the farmer is going to grow for the most profit...Idaho potatoes or ethanol corn?
My point, obviously, that a lot of food costs will be affected.


29 posted on 10/08/2011 9:20:20 PM PDT by WestwardHo
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To: dynachrome

If you don’t know how to hunt and fish, you might want to consider taking a few lessons.


30 posted on 10/08/2011 9:23:45 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (If you always tell the truth, you won't have to remember what you said.)
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To: WestwardHo

OK, well I live in IL and have/had family in Iowa, and Missouri, so I do see a lot of corn planted....Always have. I don’t know how much corn has ever been grown in Idaho—soil type, growing season, etc. So I question some of these assumptions that crops are being replaced for corn. As I said, I believe all farmers fallow fields and practice crop rotation.

If farmer gets a better price for corn used in non-subsidized ethanol, then in free market economy, shouldn’t they be able to plant it. BTW, for years and years farmers and agriculture suffered recessionary pressures, I am glad for them that they are getting a good price for their crops. Many crop prices are up btw, not just corn.


31 posted on 10/08/2011 9:31:22 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

These Googles say 30% to 40% of the US corn crop is used, or will soon be used for ethanol. Some are from different periods but it looks like its now near 40%

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1RNNN_enUS345US345&gcx=w&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=percentage+of+US+corn+crop+for+ethanol


32 posted on 10/08/2011 9:31:35 PM PDT by Will88
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To: headstamp 2

A cheapening dollar should make importing things from America cheaper, not costlier. There’s a lot that doesn’t make sense here.


33 posted on 10/08/2011 9:45:35 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: WestwardHo
In Iowa the land is good for growing grass crops but not so good for other crops.

If they didn't grow corn they would be growing wheat or something which wouldn't up the fruit and veggie ratio at all.

BTW what is left over from the ethanol process is very high quality animal fodder and is used that way so there really isn't a net food loss.

Ethanol from corn has many other problems but it is not taking food from starving children.

34 posted on 10/08/2011 9:45:59 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Will88

Thanks. I did a little looking myself. Apparently the size of the corn crop has increased from 9.5 to 13. billion bushels...2007/2008 data. According to USDA, rates wwere as listed below:

Again, I think subsidies should be phased out and let farmers grow what is profitable.

I believe they are beginning to make ethanol from other sources besides feed crops—switch grass and saw grass. -———————————————————————————

As the size of the corn crop grows, so too do its uses.
In 2002/03, the United States produced a corn crop of 9.0 billion bushels and consumed 9.5 billion bushels of
corn. How was that crop utilized?
Usage Bil. Bu. Percentage of Total Use
Feed/residual 5.6 59.0%
Export 1.6 17%
Ethanol 1.1 11.5%
Other 1.2 12.5%
(Source: US Department of Agriculture)

In 2007/08, the United States produced a corn crop of 13.1 billion bushels and consumed 12.8 billion bushels
of corn, 35% more than in 2002. While the amount consumed by ethanol production increased, so too did the
entire crop and every other usage.
Usage Bil. Bu. Percentage of Total Use
Feed/residual 6.1 48%
Export 2.4 19%
Ethanol 3.0 23%
Other 1.3 10%
(Source: US Department of Agriculture)


Some interesting info in this article:
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/page/-/objects/documents/1898/corn_use_facts.pdf


35 posted on 10/08/2011 9:47:32 PM PDT by bushwon ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
If you don’t know how to hunt and fish, you might want to consider taking a few lessons.

I can do both, but I'm rarely at home in Idaho to enjoy those activities. Some of my neighbors who are lifetime hunters have been coming home empty handed. The Canadian timber wolves have decimated the moose, elk and deer in Idaho. Skills without something to actually harvest is nearly as bad as no skills at all.

36 posted on 10/08/2011 9:57:50 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: doc1019

Actually, it’s ‘thank you ethanol mandates’.

Imagine if all the corn that was used for ethanol was ground up into corn meal. How much cheaper would corn-based foods be then?


37 posted on 10/08/2011 10:29:56 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Actually, there used to be very large truck farms in the Midwest. That’s where the jolly green giant got his start. It just proved to be more profitable to grow row crops because there wasn’t enough cheap labor to process peas, beans, melons, and carrots, and row crops are easy to grow with machines, and to store and transport without expensive canning/freezing plants.


38 posted on 10/08/2011 11:14:41 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: bigheadfred

No it was just two days ago...not only produce but the whole store...empty shelves...a weird feeling going through there.


39 posted on 10/08/2011 11:20:41 PM PDT by leenie312
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40 posted on 10/08/2011 11:21:10 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: gogogodzilla
Very cheap if your eat tortillas.

Americans don't acually eat that much corn. Corn is a feed for cattle or an industrial feed stock for starch and sugar. In fact, as a soil scientist buddy of mine said, it's best to think of corn as any other industrial raw material, such as iron ore, oil or wood pulp.

41 posted on 10/08/2011 11:26:06 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: VanShuyten

And that’s what the article is about. People in developing countries... who tend to eat the cheapest foods they can find, as they don’t have much money.


42 posted on 10/09/2011 1:47:03 AM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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To: leenie312

Central New York farmers lost their harvest because of Hurricane Irene flooding.


43 posted on 10/09/2011 1:54:09 AM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him? He's now totally out of control.)
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To: firebrand

Welcome to flyover country.


44 posted on 10/09/2011 1:56:20 AM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: firebrand

WAL*MART doesn’t stock local produce..it is all shipped in.We have to go to the local store to get fresh NY produce.


45 posted on 10/09/2011 12:46:01 PM PDT by leenie312
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To: VanShuyten
Americans don't acually eat that much corn. Corn is a feed for cattle or an industrial feed stock for starch and sugar. In fact, as a soil scientist buddy of mine said, it's best to think of corn as any other industrial raw material, such as iron ore, oil or wood pulp.

Sorry, not so! Check out Omnivore's Dilemma. It's an eye-opener.

46 posted on 10/09/2011 1:08:32 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: MV=PY
My comment was in reply to gogogodzilla, who thought that grinding up all the corn used in ethanol production to make corn meal would lower prices. I pointed out that Americans don't eat much corn, and that corn was an industrial feedstock to produce sugar and starch (and oil and protein and other chemicals). We eat lots of wheat in bread and pasta, and a fair amount of rice and beans, but not much corn or corn meal. However, the industrial products of corn are in many things we eat, as well as the fuel in our cars, the boxes and bags some foods come in and some of the drugs we take. Many of those products could be made from other vegetable derivatives or petroleum, but corn is cheap and easy to handle.
47 posted on 10/09/2011 9:48:03 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: leenie312

Oh. Thanks.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 10:28:25 PM PDT by firebrand (Why didn't they impeach him? He's now totally out of control.)
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To: VanShuyten

I understand your point about not eating much corn “directly.”

Onivore’s Dilemma traces the foods found in a supermarket back to original sources, and the amount of corn we consume is nothing short of amazing. It is possible to detect the amount of corn a human has consumed by analyzing his hair, and North Americans consume far more food derived from corn than any society in history.

For example, at McDonald’s, the chicken McNugget is cornfed chicken, the breading is corn, the coloring of the coating is a corn derivative. All of the soft drinks are sweetened with fructose. French fries are cooked in corn oil.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/11/081111-fast-food-corn.html

You might find the book enlightening. I was quite surprised what our food supply really looks like.


49 posted on 10/10/2011 2:30:32 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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