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Canadian Miner - Holed and Breaking Up.
Various including http://boatnerd.com/ ^ | October 7th, 2011 | Various

Posted on 10/08/2011 8:37:26 PM PDT by prisoner6

Canadian Miner Update - Holed and Breaking Up

The Canadian Miner was struck by a storm where 40 foot waves broke over the grounded vessel near Scaterie Island. Reports state the vessel has a 50 foot hole on the side of the vessel near the stern and the hull has cracked in several places. The storm winds reached gusts up to 131 kilometers per hour. Waves have pushed the Canadian Miner closer to shore with the bow of the vessel now resting on the beach.

Luckily, salvagers were able remove 6,000 liters of engine oil and diesel fuel before the storm struck. There is still 3,000 liters on board, but plans are to have it removed as soon as the salvage crew can return to the vessel.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Canada; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: greatlakes; salvage; shipping; sourcetitlenoturl
Don't know if anyone else has been following this but I have for the past month since I have interest in The Great Lakes and it's shipping.

It started about a month ago when the Canadian Miner was being towed out of the St Lawrence Seaway headed for a scraping yard in Turkey.

As the tug and it's tow headed into the Atlantic a rope broke and the C Miner was driven onto the rocks on Scaterie Island, near Cape Breton Nova Scotia.

Several attempts have been made to pull the grounded ship loose but all have failed due to the harsh surf and weather.

It now looks as if the ship is going to break apart. In the pic you can see one of the hatch covers has blown off.

What a shame to see a GL ship meet such an end.

More can be found HERE under the "News Channel"

The above link is also a great source of weather and other Great Lakes info especially under "vessel passage" and then "current vessel locations."

1 posted on 10/08/2011 8:37:31 PM PDT by prisoner6
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To: prisoner6

Shame to see that much steel not get recycled.

Notice the “worry” and excitement about a little bit of diesel oil..... 3000 liters! (In WWII, hundreds of tankers and loaded cargo ships filled with thousands of tons of fuel oil were sinking.)


2 posted on 10/08/2011 8:41:02 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: prisoner6

A lake Superior gale onboard the Charles Wilson. It doesn’t look like much until you think about it. The crew was in their survival suits by choice.

“We displace 38,000 tons, are full of iron ore, and 680’ long and bending”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cddtyqQNHtM&feature=related


3 posted on 10/08/2011 8:47:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Notice the “worry” and excitement about a little bit of diesel oil..... 3000 liters!

YUP! Of course the lobster fishermen are all upset because they claim it's going to destroy some prime grounds. I would wager more than the amount on board is spilled there yearly anyway from cargo ships and fishing boats.

It makes one wonder why they would risk hauling it all the way to Turkey to be scrapped. You would think it could have been done here and the steel used here. The ship was registered out of Toronto IIRC.

4 posted on 10/08/2011 8:48:08 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt Thsese Constitution together as the loose sicianscrews of the Left fall out!)
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To: cripplecreek
Holy cow that is SCARY!

To think that at one time decades ago I seriously considered trying to get a job on one of those. I figured the trip between say Cleveland and Duluth would be fun, LOL!

Instead of signing on board I chose a more dangerous fate...I got married.

5 posted on 10/08/2011 8:54:10 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt Thsese Constitution together as the loose sicianscrews of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6

I’ve read that you can hitch a ride as a tourist on some of those great lakes ore carriers at a price. Its a no frills ride but I understand that the food is top notch.

It would be something I would enjoy.


6 posted on 10/08/2011 8:59:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: cripplecreek
Some of those trips have been cut back, probably for insurance reasons but supposedly there are ways.

boatnerd.com used to raffle off a trip every year. If they did this year I missed it.

7 posted on 10/08/2011 9:03:57 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt Thsese Constitution together as the loose sicianscrews of the Left fall out!)
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To: prisoner6

A GL ship isn’t built for an Atlantic crossing in any kind of bad weather.


8 posted on 10/08/2011 9:05:20 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: prisoner6

I’ve always wanted to try a great lakes cruise.

Its really more for the grey hair set but I’ve got plenty of grey of my own.


9 posted on 10/08/2011 9:05:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: buccaneer81
True. Just last year or the year before another ship being towed to an overseas yard foundered and sank. I might be thinking of the Algoport. Here is a video of it sinking. It was headed to China.

IIRC there might have been yet another ship also under the Algo title that sunk more recently.

10 posted on 10/08/2011 9:31:04 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt Thsese Constitution together as the loose sicianscrews of the Left fall out!)
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To: buccaneer81

True. They are built with only half the longitudinal strength of an ocean going ship or “saltie”.


11 posted on 10/08/2011 9:42:54 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: neverdem; narses; SunkenCiv; SmithL; Nachum; Doohickey; CPOSharky; prisoner6
It makes one wonder why they would risk hauling it all the way to Turkey to be scrapped. You would think it could have been done here and the steel used here. The ship was registered out of Toronto IIRC.

Enviro and OSHA laws!

It is SO expensive to even work in the Us or Canada's “clean” and working industrial sites that trying to cut out and scrap a messy old ship (or anything else) is only a cost-buster. It costs more for the labor and enviro servicing and cleaning than it does to tow the ship overseas, cut it up over there with non-OSHA (non-union) labor and dump the pollutions and dirt and old asbestos and old oil and old paint and old wire and old insulation and old trash over there, then send the scrap steel back as new Chinese steel.

12 posted on 10/08/2011 10:01:40 PM PDT by Robert A. Cook, PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Amberdawn
True. They are built with only half the longitudinal strength of an ocean going ship or “saltie”.

I've always read that's why when cruise ships reposition from the Caribbean to Europe and vice versa, they sail without passsengers.

They're not ocean liners. AFAIK, only the QM2 is strong enough to sail anywhere on all planetary shipping routes as a passenger vessel today.

13 posted on 10/08/2011 10:27:11 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: prisoner6

SmAller that the SS Edmund Fitzgerald but the same type of ship. That wreck will be tourist site for the next 200 years.


14 posted on 10/08/2011 10:39:17 PM PDT by TaMoDee (GO PACK GO to Super Bowl XLVI)
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To: buccaneer81

I didn’t know that about cruise ships or the QM2. I read a lot about GL’s ships though and because they sail on fresh water and the Lakes have a limited “fetch”, they built them that way. Apparently it has something to do with wave height and motion. This isn’t the first time a GL ship being towed for scrap across the ocean has sunk.


15 posted on 10/08/2011 11:04:41 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: prisoner6
I always thought Canadians loaded their derelict ships up with liberals and cruised down to Antarctica for some fun in the sun.


16 posted on 10/08/2011 11:15:57 PM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE
Ever heard this tune ?

The concert footage is not of this song, but the video composition works well.

17 posted on 10/08/2011 11:46:43 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: prisoner6
It makes one wonder why they would risk hauling it all the way to Turkey to be scrapped. You would think it could have been done here and the steel used here

In parts of the world, there are few environmental laws, and a couple of welding rods are worth more than a day's pay.

18 posted on 10/09/2011 2:05:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Robert A. Cook, PE; fanfan

Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE.


19 posted on 10/09/2011 8:28:30 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: SunkenCiv; Robert A. Cook, PE; Clive

Thanks Robert A. Cook, PE, and Civ.

Ping Clive.

:-)


20 posted on 10/10/2011 3:30:35 PM PDT by fanfan (Why did they bury Barry's past?)
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To: fanfan; exg; Alberta's Child; albertabound; AntiKev; backhoe; Byron_the_Aussie; Cannoneer No. 4; ...

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21 posted on 10/10/2011 6:20:19 PM PDT by Clive
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To: fanfan

Thanks for the ping.


22 posted on 10/10/2011 6:26:55 PM PDT by Clive
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To: cripplecreek
Lake Superior can be dangerous waters and a laden ore carrier can sink like a stone in the right circumstances.

Reference the story of the ore carrier SS Edmund Fitzgerald and listen to Gordon Lightfoot's song about its sinking with the loss of all hands.

23 posted on 10/10/2011 6:36:07 PM PDT by Clive
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