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Too much pink? Why all the focus on Breast Cancer? (Vanity)
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Posted on 10/09/2011 10:35:55 AM PDT by Skeez

Watching football with about every player trimmed out in pink, from their shoe laces to their chin guards, I wonder, "Does prostate cancer have a month?" They do. It's September, but I don't recall any baby blue ribbons or TV adds with celebrities alerting me to that fact. Please don't misunderstand me, I do not mean to take anything away from the commendable efforts by the NFL, other organizations, and common people in their pursuit to rid the world of this devastating disease.

However, I did some research and discovered that there didn't appear to be any statistical significance to justify these levels of increased exposure of breast cancer.

I don't know what the federal funding levels are for each and I absolutely don't know all the other facts and figures. I'm sure there are many freepers that will educate me.

I'd like to know what your honest opinion is as to why breast cancer receives more attention. I am not saying it isn't fair. Educating people about breast cancer does not make people less educated about prostate cancer. This is not a zero sum gain. If anything, the efforts made for breast cancer are likely paving the way for progress with many other forms and we should all be thankful. The question, however, is, "how did it become this way?"

Are women simply better champions of their cause? Are men somehow less vocal about these things by nature? Does this discrepancy have something to do with the statistics, diagnosis, or treatment of which I'm unaware?


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1 posted on 10/09/2011 10:35:59 AM PDT by Skeez
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To: Skeez

Symbolism over substance.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 10:37:20 AM PDT by Keith in Iowa (Hope & Change - I'm out of hope, and change is all I have left every week | FR Class of 1998 |)
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To: Skeez

Breasts are more inspirational.


3 posted on 10/09/2011 10:40:07 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Skeez

I was think the same brotha!


4 posted on 10/09/2011 10:40:18 AM PDT by Perdogg (I will support any candidate against 0bama in 2012)
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To: Skeez

Every era one of the charities is the “big dog” and gets to own the American consciousness. Used to be the MDA, before then Easter Seals, now it’s Suzan Komen’s turn. This too shall pass.


5 posted on 10/09/2011 10:41:19 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Skeez

It has to be better marketing and the mental thing with women about breast cancer.The stats say that out of all of the different cancers you can have breast cancer has the best survival rates if caught early and that is why I choose to donate to other cancer research that has higher mortality rates.


6 posted on 10/09/2011 10:42:11 AM PDT by chris_bdba
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To: Skeez

The organization behind breast cancer awareness just seem to be better organized than the prostate group. Few women seem to be aware that their number one killer is heart disease, not breast cancer, but the heart association doesn’t push their message as hard. Simply stated, it seems to be better PR and an awareness message that has worked.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 10:43:01 AM PDT by econjack
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To: Skeez

As cancers go, it wins the booby prize?


8 posted on 10/09/2011 10:43:42 AM PDT by null and void (Day 991 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Skeez
Look: the female breast is a fetishistic object in our culture. It isn't just another organ. It not only symbolizes motherhood, it is a major factor in a woman's image in terms of sexual attractiveness.

Look at the media: women's breasts are as much an object of attention in women's magazines as they are in mens magazines, only from a not altogether different slant. Surf your cable or satellite tv and see all the shopping channels with infomercials about bras. America is obsessed with breasts and has been at least since the pin-up days of WWII. Live with it.

9 posted on 10/09/2011 10:44:32 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Skeez

And yes, I had a friend, Roger Brennan, die of prostate cancer just last week.


10 posted on 10/09/2011 10:46:06 AM PDT by null and void (Day 991 of America's holiday from reality...)
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To: Skeez
It is trendy and affects so many women, and men. I walked in the second Revlon Race for the Cure in LA in 1993. I have friends who do the Komen walk every year. I have friends and relatives living with breast cancer. I supported this cause until I found out the percentage of this money that goes to Planned Parenthood. I support breast cancer research and have worked in cancer detection for about 4 decades. I won't give money to this organization anymore.
11 posted on 10/09/2011 10:46:18 AM PDT by originalbuckeye
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To: Skeez

Because blokes like boobies. Can’t fight nature.


12 posted on 10/09/2011 10:46:34 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: null and void

“I don’t know what the federal funding levels are for each and I absolutely don’t know all the other facts and figures. I’m sure there are many freepers that will educate me”

I would ask who sits on the board, who else are they affiliated with and when and by who are funding decisions made.


13 posted on 10/09/2011 10:47:25 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (I am a Cainiac)
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To: null and void; Skeez

Prostate cancer and testicular cancer. Yeah, those don’t get as much play. One is pretty much unseen. A more “internal” problem. The other just lacks the ba**s.


14 posted on 10/09/2011 10:49:25 AM PDT by bigheadfred (But alas)
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To: discostu
Used to be the MDA, before then Easter Seals, now it’s Suzan Komen’s turn. This too shall pass.

My guess for the next flavor-of-the-month campaign: pancreatic cancer, or "Steven Jobs disease"

15 posted on 10/09/2011 10:50:09 AM PDT by ZOOKER ( Exploring the fine line between cynicism and outright depression)
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To: Skeez

Sorry; even as a survivor of the ‘big C’; pink makes me see ‘red’.


16 posted on 10/09/2011 10:50:17 AM PDT by cricket (Let Freedom Ring. . .and Thank You, Steve Jobs...)
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To: econjack

And the Susan B. Komen (or is Comen?) group has a lot of DemocRAT ties. Lots of your anti-cancer dollars go to Planned Parenthood for their nonexistent cancer-screening programs—and some think onward to the ‘Rat party. When I see pink these days, I think “pinko.”


17 posted on 10/09/2011 10:50:28 AM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Skeez

I understand having a breast cancer awareness week or whatever. That’s fine. But this has been at least two or three weeks - isn’t that enough? These aren’t exhibition games being played to raise money for breast cancer research!


18 posted on 10/09/2011 10:52:30 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (Cain 2012!)
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To: Skeez

Statistics in Australia...
•Each year in Australia, close to 3,300 men die of prostate cancer - equal to the number of women who die from breast cancer annually. Around 20,000 new cases are diagnosed in Australia every year.
•Each day about 32 men learn news that they have prostate cancer - tragically one man every three hours will lose his battle against this insidious disease
•One in 9 men in Australia will develop prostate cancer in their lifetime
•Prostate cancer is the most common cancer in Australian men and is the second most common cause of cancer deaths in men
•As many men die from prostate cancer as women die from breast cancer but... a national survey by PCFA in 2002 showed that while 78% of women felt well informed about breast cancer – only 52% of men felt informed about prostate cancer
•The chance of developing prostate cancer increases:
•as men get older.
•if there is a family history of prostate cancer eg a man with a father or brother diagnosed with prostate cancer


19 posted on 10/09/2011 10:54:29 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a tea party descendant - steeped in the Constitutional legacy handed down by the Founders)
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To: Skeez

Susan B. Komen is a fatty liberal who raises millions for breast cancer and gives millions to Planned Parenthood. BTW, men
get breast cancer also, but the Komen foundation being does not help them.


20 posted on 10/09/2011 10:55:49 AM PDT by hope
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To: Pan_Yan

ping


21 posted on 10/09/2011 10:58:23 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Real solidarity means coming together for the common good."-Sarah Palin)
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To: MizSterious

I do not support this charity because I do not agree with their views on embryonic stem cell research. They are all for it and support Planned Parenthood as well. No thanks.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 11:01:04 AM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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To: Skeez

Before commenting, please keep in mind that there are likely many people on this board that have been personally affected by one (or more) of these cancers.


And they are all undoubtedly wise enough adults to avoid threads discussing the politics of these diseases, if they are too emotionally wright to handle it.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 11:02:50 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: Skeez

I am noticing this year that a lot more players are not opting in to the pink parade.


24 posted on 10/09/2011 11:04:41 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Skeez
I'd like to know what your honest opinion is as to why breast cancer receives more attention.

My brother says that breast cancer receives more attention because women control the world.

I think that it is way overdone. It compromises the uniform dress code. It is distracting. The color is gaudy. We have to put up with the sissy look for an entire month. It enriches the makers of pink shoes and other equipment. As much can be done (if it does anything) for breast cancer "awareness" with 1% of the attention. Silly, distracting, and useless IMO...

25 posted on 10/09/2011 11:04:44 AM PDT by olezip
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To: Beelzebubba

Having lost my first wife to breast cancer in 2001, and having my new bride afflicted with it (Thank God the doctors were able to catch it in time and so far eliminate it), I am very sympathetic to this cause.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 11:06:00 AM PDT by Ax
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To: Skeez; All

If your local Susan G. Komen bunch funnels $$$ to your local Planned Parenthood, please do NOT support them! Some groups do, some don’t. Please educate yourselves:

http://kfyo.com/2011-komen-lubbock-race-for-the-cure-approaching-spokeswoman-discusses-new-goals-ties-to-planned-parenthood/

“Some Komen affiliates across the nation have treatment and screening grants with their local Planned Parenthood. I believe 19 of our 125 affiliates currently have that grant.”

Christian school quits supporting Komen:

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/09/20/christian-school-in-texas-quits-komen-over-planned-parenthood/

Komen affiliates in Austin, Texas; Central New Mexico; El Paso, Texas; Greater Amarillo, Texas; Los Angeles County, California; Milwaukee, Wisconsin; and Salt Lake City, Utah stopped giving to the abortion business while affiliates in Dallas County, Texas; Denver, Colorado; North Carolina Triad; North Carolina Triangle; and Puget Sound, Washington all began new relationships with Planned Parenthood.

Another problem for pro-life advocates is the fact that Planned Parenthood is reducing the number of breast cancer screenings while increasing its abortions. According to the 2008 Annual Report from Planned Parenthood, breast cancer services decreased by 4% and abortion procedures increased by 6%.

The Komen spokesman confirmed last year that Komen affiliates contributed about $3.3 million to the abortion business from 2004-2009. That and the longtime ties between Komen and Planned Parenthood have resulted in some backlash from the pro-life community. The Komen annual report reveals Komen brought in almost $22 million less, or 6% less, in 2009 than it made in 2008. That could be a result of the difficult economic times or may also come as a result of pro-life advocates increasingly boycotting Komen.


27 posted on 10/09/2011 11:06:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: econjack

That, and people are more sympathetic givers if you tell them that “mom is gonna die.” Men suffering from cancer is not a pretty, feel good motivator.


28 posted on 10/09/2011 11:06:31 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: cricket
Sorry; even as a survivor of the ‘big C’; pink makes me see ‘red’.

It's not the color, it's the stupid looped ribbon I hate. I associate that with Political Correctness in general. It's just another attempt to herd us all into some kind of group think.

29 posted on 10/09/2011 11:06:38 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Skeez

Statistically I’m more likely to suffer heart disease than anything. Would like to see some attention to heart disease.

That said, DH’s aunt, and one of the kids’ favorite teachers both battled breast cancer. It is a vicious opponent.


30 posted on 10/09/2011 11:07:01 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (This too shall pass ...)
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To: Skeez

I’ve heard Komen Foundation gies money to Planned Parenthood. their trying to make up the difference after all the funding cuts.


31 posted on 10/09/2011 11:08:11 AM PDT by marty60
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To: Personal Responsibility

They do it for the entire month, this is I think the 3rd year in a row of it.


32 posted on 10/09/2011 11:08:58 AM PDT by Raider Sam (They're on our left, right, front, and back. They aint gettin away this time!)
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To: Ax

Ping to Post #26. Sorry for your loss and close call. My best friend & step-Mom died of this disease. My Great-Grandma did, too - she was a Christian Scientist, so refused any medical care for it; I can’t imagine the agony she must’ve been in at the end.

I have an awesome rack and take great care of it. :) But I will NOT support Komen, et al due to their ties to the abortionists at Planned Parenthood.

Do what you feel is best, but please educate yourself (and your current wife!) before you write that next check...

Thanks for your time. :)


33 posted on 10/09/2011 11:11:33 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Skeez

What’s wrong, ya got problems with the TRUTH?!


34 posted on 10/09/2011 11:13:37 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Keith in Iowa

I just logged my complaint at NFL.com. Between the pink shoelaces and referees speaking Spanish, I’ve had it.

I want WNBA players to wear jocks around their necks for prostate cancer awareness and All soccer broadcasts in Mexico to a have a reciprocal English awareness month for all the dollars sent south of the border.


35 posted on 10/09/2011 11:14:57 AM PDT by bleach (If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong.)
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To: ZOOKER

Could be. High profile cases will do that. It’s why Komen jumped to male “awareness” Brett Favre’s wife got breast cancer, it was already huge before then but was mostly in “female” products like yogurt with pink lids. I will admit some of the campaigns for Komen are pretty amusing, I especially like the “save third base” charity soft/baseball games.


36 posted on 10/09/2011 11:16:25 AM PDT by discostu (How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Can't Even Smile Today)
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To: Skeez

I’m tired of it and I’m a girl. Fine that Susan Komen’s sister kept her promise to carry on the fight and I admire her for that but I think this breast cancer crusade is overdone. God bless those who have had it or have been lost to it but it’s not the only killer cancer in the world. If I sound cold I’m sorry. There are MEN’s cancers that are just as deadly. I want ALL cancers cured in my lifetime!


37 posted on 10/09/2011 11:19:08 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Skeez

"...And this positively infantile preoccupation with bosoms. In all time in this wretched Godforsaken country, the one thing that has appalled me most of all this this prepostrous preoccupation with bosoms. Don't you realize they have become the dominant theme in American culture: in literature, advertising and all fields of entertainment and everything. I'll wager you anything you like that if American women stopped wearing brassieres, your whole national economy would collapse overnight!"

38 posted on 10/09/2011 11:19:13 AM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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39 posted on 10/09/2011 11:25:04 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Skeez

Some factors that apply:

Many more women die from heart disease than breast cancer, but when they do they’re usually much older. 60s/70s+ vs. 40s. Much more difficult to portray the death of an old person as an avoidable tragedy. People tend to think, though most are not as politically incorrect as I am and won’t say it out loud, “Oh well, she was going to die of something pretty soon anyway.”

(Actually, the average age of death from breast cancer is 61, but I think I’m correct when I say the public perception is that it affects younger women.)

As others have pointed out here, testicles and prostates are not nearly as photogenic as a female breast. At least not to me and most men.

Chivalry, though nearly dead, still plays a part. Men feel an urge to protect women. Men, and women, don’t seem to feel anything near the same urge to protect men.

Prostate cancer also has the same age issue as heart disease. Men who die from it are much older on average than women who die of breast cancer. Average age of death from prostate cancer in USA is 80. He was gonna kick over soon anyway, so what’s the big deal?


40 posted on 10/09/2011 11:26:37 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Skeez

Yes, our family has been affected by breast cancer. Lost my MIL year and a half ago to bone cancer that was linked to the breast cancer. That being said, I think the pink thing is WAY over used and there is no way I’m donating to the Susan Komen pro-Planned Parenthood group. Nothing. Not even a yogurt lid.

Also, I have family members, men, who have prostate issues or have had cancer, surgery, etc. WHERE ARE THE DONATIONS FOR THOSE? Why aren’t the sports teams talking about male health issues?


41 posted on 10/09/2011 11:29:13 AM PDT by madison10
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To: Skeez

Being a woman, I have said the same thing myself...why all the emphasis on a cancer which kills less than many other cancers. I think we all know the answer...PC has killed this country and it is killing football. Enough of this “play nice”...it is freaking football!! Stop making political statements and trying to influence people one way or another...it’s a game! Just play the game and stay out of politics, the bedroom, the kitchen, my pockets...play the freaking game!!


42 posted on 10/09/2011 11:29:24 AM PDT by 4everontheRight (And the story began with..."Once there was a great nation......")
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To: Skeez

Regarding the Patriots I thought the pink was for the -owner’s wife - Kraft whose wife just died of cancer, which I assumed was breast cancer.


43 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:04 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

There are lots of other breast cancer organizations you can support. I understand your feelings re: Susan J Komen, but I don’t get the “I’ve got a great rack,” in a thread about breast cancer. I’m sure the people you knew who died had “great racks” too. In fact my great rack will be shoved into an MRI tomorrow morning to see if my early stage, early detected breast cancer has spread. My son will grow up with a mother thanks to the evil SJK & funds raised to improve early detection so we can be diagnosed before it’s too late.

I don’t know why Prostate Cancer research isn’t as heavily promoted. But that’s what so great about the USA. If it bugs you (or anyone else), start your own campaign. The more you raise, the more you can promote. No one wants to see people die. Cancer sucks. Whatever is found to stop BC cells from growing may just help people with other cancers.

Having said that, I find the I heart boobies & save the tatas campaigns to be annoying. I think they’re degrading & silly. BC is not a silly disease. And if the time comes where I have to chose between my “great rack,” or my life, I’ll opt for life.


44 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:56 AM PDT by The Sparrow
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To: 4everontheRight

Yes what you said and also I think it looks really gay!


45 posted on 10/09/2011 11:30:59 AM PDT by Boardwalk
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To: Skeez
It's a very reasonable question. Perhaps a few things operating here...

First, we all likely know women under the age of 55 who have suffered from breast cancer; VERY rare for a man that young to be so affected (Michael Landon is an example). Second, women are more likely to be moved to action by disease, that is, the daughters of affected mothers see that they themselves might be vulnerable to this disease.

Finally, women have been seen as an oppressed, put upon minority in liberal circles, and the politics of breast cancer fits into this quite well.

46 posted on 10/09/2011 11:33:44 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Austrian achievement: convincing world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian)
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To: null and void
As cancers go, it wins the booby prize?

(giggle, giggle) Be sure to tell your junior high school classmates that one tomorrow.

47 posted on 10/09/2011 11:41:13 AM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: Skeez

The simple answer is, with all due respect to those affected, it’s a sexist disease.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 11:43:00 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: miele man

bump for later read


49 posted on 10/09/2011 11:44:28 AM PDT by miele man
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To: libh8er

.. like pregnancy, which is another sexist disease and AIDS, a homophobic disease. The way to make discriminatory diseases non discriminatory is to mainstream them.


50 posted on 10/09/2011 11:48:07 AM PDT by libh8er
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