Skip to comments.Romney rivals may go after him for flip-flops
Posted on 10/09/2011 11:47:42 AM PDT by DRey
Mitt Romney faced relentless criticism four years ago for changing his positions on abortion and gay rights and equivocating on other issues, including immigration and gun control. This year, the former Massachusetts governor has largely escaped such attacks as he competes again for the Republican presidential nomination. That might be changing.
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Yup, amazing Romney is a pure flip flopper and oversaw his states, first in the nation, version of Obamacare - yet the entire field has been so focused on Perry they’ve let him get away with it almost unscathed.
Perhaps Romney has become such a good debater that he will be able to brush aside such questioning the next time they are all on a stage together, but it would nice to see them at least raise the issues.
As of now Romney seems to be coasting to the nomination without hardly a challenge - and the guy should be more vulnerable than any of the others (real candidates I mean, not Gary Johnson or Ron Paul).
MSM SUPPORTS ROMNEY! YUP,we got a winner there. Geeeez, give us a LEADER! Get rid of this Wishy Washy run of the mill inside Republican candidates. Give me some one like Cain, so I will be sure to go and vote with enthusiasm. The MSM loves Blaaah Republicans.
Romney has been allowed to slide because the Media is for Romney.
They want Romney so bad they can taste it. Romney is their best chance to put Obama back in the White House.
Don’t worry: after the Primary’s the Media will be out to get him.
R rivals or D rivals? Answer: Both.
Abortion? Gun control? Gay rights? Oh, come on now. Romney says he’s always been pro-life, pro-family and is a life long hunter:
He also says RomneyCare is a conservative free-market program. It’s just that he loves mandates.
And he says the planet IS warming and it’s up to us to save it. It’s settled science, just like Roe v Wade is settled law and therefore he’s sworn to preserve and protect a woman’s right to choose.
His problem with Conservatives is no one knows what he really stands for. He says all the right things but then so did Bush.
Nice sounding words in speeches and platitude are not a Presidential agenda.
Ugh. To hear you say it like that...I cannot believe we’re even having to discuss this guy in the context of a potential Republican nominee. It’s disgusting.
There is only one way I will ever cast a vote for Romney in 2012,
and that is if by November, my only valid choice is between him or Obama.
I’d prefer to hear the candidates going after Obama than wasting their fire on each other. I’m not going to pick my candidate based on who most effectively attacks his fellow Repub, but rather on the one who most effectively takes the wood to the Obamists.
Still, Romney is one of my bottom three. He’s a deal-maker. He doesn’t have any principles, his principle is making the deal. If he manages to make a successful deal then he believes he’s done his job. He doesn’t look at what principles he had to give up to get to the deal, for him the deal itself is the thing. So we will never be able to depend on him to stand for principle. It isn’t in him.
So, for me, the top of the list is Cain, Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich (in no particular order), then Perry, and then the bottom. Romney the shape-shifter, Paul who is Paul, and Huntsman the smarmy.
I think I like Huntsman least of all. Paul would make a good Secretary of Treasury or Interior (or Education; he could help us close that agency down), and Romney would make a good Secretary of Commerce. Huntsman irritates me just looking at him.
Mormonism is a secret society! THee are levels where new revelations are given when a member reaches them. Romney is at the level equal to the 33rd degree (the top) in Freemasonry!
I refuse to play that game. If the GOP cannot field an honest conservative candidate for president, and instead puts up an abortionist, homosexual pandering, global warming advocating, gun-grabbing, big government, mandate-loving socialist healthcare pushing, progressive LIAR, then I’m no longer a Republican.
Not a case of me leaving the Republican party, the Republican party will have left me.
Go TEA party!! Long live the Republic!!
God, life, family and country first!! Progressive Republican NEVER!!
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I wouldn’t call pro-life a campaign slogan. I would call pro-life truly the right side to be on!!
That is the only thing I know of that you and I have ever differed on.
Rather than confontational, wouldn’t Peerry be better off announcing his polcies on important isssues?
The Establishment supports Romney, and for good reason.
I think Perry would be delighted to announce his policies on important issues. Unfortunately, he’s being attacked from all sides and is constantly defending himself. If that defensive stance is ever allowed to change, he’ll get his message out. Frankly, if it doesn’t change...if the Conservatives on the stage don’t redirect their fire from Perry to Romney, we’re going to have the choice of Romney or Obama in a few months.
..........."Finally, direct confrontation is not customarily a Mormon thing. Dr. Michael Stevens, a professor of Human Resource Management at Weber State University, has conducted studies documenting rates of passive-aggressive behavior at least twice as high among cultural Mormons as among our non-LDS counterparts. Mormon essayist and Brigham Young University professor Elouise Bell once wrote about legendary Mormon niceness and the darker feelings it cloaks. Analyzing what she identified as a Mormon tendency to manage disagreement by acting sentimentally or deviously towards those we encounter face to face, and hostilely towards those we dont know, Bell concluded that Nice, in short, aint so nice.".................. Source
Well, I’m all in on this. If Willard the progressive Rat Romney is the Republican one, I may be forced off the net, because FR will NOT be used to support him. In fact, I will actively campaign against him and for a grassroots conservative tea party candidate. Progressive Republicans can find a home elsewhere. If FR becomes a ghost town, that’s it unless a very popular TEA party candidate steps forward to defeat both Obama and Romney.
Perry’s problem seems to be that calling Romney a flip-flopper leaves himself open to the same charge.
The GOP itself hangs in the balance. I have believed that for some time. The so-called tea-party (which is basically the GOP rank and file) was the party's temporary salvation. If, with everything on the line, the party walks away from its own rank and file then they will, and should, and must, go the way of the Whigs.
If GOP repudiates its own membership (not to mention its own purported principles, which they sell at retail every day of the week), then I'm out too.
Perry’s remark that Social Security is a ponzi scheme is simple uncontroversial truth. I don’t think there is any sentient person out there who doesn’t know that. Romney makes himself look ridiculous by arguing the point. And if you listen to Romney’s own remarks, in effect he admits the truth of it even while disputing it.
Romney doesn’t even believe what he is saying, he is just positioning himself. I don’t like Perry much but on this issue he is speaking clear truth and Romney is looking for an angle.
Perry has some problems to overcome. Not sure he can. That said, if he’s the last man standing against Romney, I’ll support him. At least he does have sufficient executive experience and the majority of the Texas voters like him well enough to continue reelecting him and he has done a pretty good job with the economy in Texas despite Obama and the Marxist democrats. And he’s a pro-God, pro-life, pro-family, pro-America veteran patriot! Other than his in-state tuition fiasco, he does have a lot going for him.
Hope he succeeds. I love TEXAS!!
God knows that Romney has given them enough ammunition.
Like I said, other than that, you and I are of the same mind.
One thanksgiving a few years back,
many in the family had gotten bored with our traditional turkey dinner.
About half wanted to have semi-traditional ham,
and another bunch wanted to do something “different”;
they had settled on wanting spaghetti, of all things.
Now, as for me, I wanted the traditional turkey dinner,
after all, tradition is what thanksgiving is all about.
When it came time to raise hands in a vote,
I knew I was not going to get turkey,
so I voted for ham,
just to avoid having to have spaghetti.
It is a simplistic analogy, I know,
but it’s the best I can do at the moment.
Even if I am losing, with only a few seconds left to play,
even if I think the other side has cheated,
and the referees have been unfair,
I still will not walk off the field.
I sincerely believe that if Romney is nominated it will split many Christian pro-life, pro-family, pro-gun, pro-small government conservatives off the Republican rolls and may even split the Tea party as well. The tea party sprang up, in large part, to combat socialized healthcare. Romney still brags about his RomneyCare being a successful conservative free-market program. Never heard of a free-market program that includes forced government mandates and government enforced penalties if you choose not to go along. That and he still promotes global warming and it’s economy killing mandates against industry.
Romney is an ASS!! Never will I support that lying rat bastard big government progressive/socialist!! Romney marks the end of the GOP as a conservative party.
I’m fine with spaghetti if Rat bastard Romney is the alternative.
Yes, but I think you’ve completely overlooked a very viable candidate who is running neck to neck with Romney, Herman Cain. Mr. Cain doesn’t diss other candidates. His mama did him well! He is a complete gentleman. Brilliant but with great common sense. (A rarity!) Obama doesn’t know the meaning of either of those words.
If it’s a choice between Cain and Romney, I’m all in for Cain, make no mistake. I just don’t like Cain’s lack of political experience. I think the Dems will eat him for breakfast if the GOP establishment doesn’t get to him first. We’ve seen what inexperience gets us, and it’s not pretty. I also don’t like his hedging on issues like abortion. He’s not nearly as conservative as I would like to see. But again, that said, he gets my vote if it’s a Romney/Cain contest. I truly believe Perry is the best man for the job.
If Romney somehow ends up with the nomination,
it will tear Obama’s opposition apart.
Let us both pray hard that that does not happen.
I agree, I agree, I agree.
Perry became target number one because of his meteoric rise and subsequent fall, but he isn’t out of this race yet. I expect another surge from him. Romney is the establishment pick by default, but he isn’t doing much better than he did last time around, which indicates he has good, solid support, but not quite enough of it. A lot of progressive Republicans are crying over Christie’s decision. ...I would like to see some of the also rans turn their criticisms towards Romney, and leave Cain to concentrate his energy on attacking Obama.
Herman Cain is not a serious candidate. You think he is by the polls...but he has little campaign organization along with very poor fund raising. He is made that choice...he is on a book tour and yes, that is some what tied to the race. But it takes a strong organization throughout the country...he has had a lot of time to do that but has chosen not to. Perry and Romney have the money raised and have strong campaign organzations throughout the USA, they are both as serious as a heart attack. And the watchers including the big donors look at all this...they do not see him as a serious candidate.
"God, life, family and country first!! Progressive Republican NEVER!!"
The RNC never seems to learn.
I've never seen the likes of this and I'm still trying to analyze WHY.
LOL! That was great.
You do know Cain has been the worst offender, don’t you? He’s supporting Romney over Perry and has supported Romney in the past.
My niece sat in on a Perry "round table" in Orange City, IA yesterday. Here is one paragraph of what she had to say:
Perry seems to have a real target on his back. I wonder if they will regret trying to take him out. Unless they know something we don't. I seriously don't get the immigration thing. It is a huge mess but I don't see that anyone has all the answers. It seems Perry has handeled it the way most Texan's see as best. At least he knows the problems first hand. I just don't see this as the deciding issue,but they are using it to destroy him. I was surprised how much it dominated the disscussion yesterday. There were so many things we didn't have time to get to. It seems they have managed to keep him off his message."
Perry has had generally good reviews of his visit to Iowa Fri. evening and yesterday.
All the candidates have played “nice-nice” about Romney’s religion but they didn’t give Perry the same courtesy about the smear of racism because of a rock he didn’t even own and had painted over.
They should have stood with Perry but they didn’t. They used it to beat him over the head for their own enrichment despite knowing it was a MSM hit-job.
Romney is the deceiver.
It’s true. If Perry ever gets off the defensive footing and is allowed to put his message forward, they’re all toast.
And the reason they've been working together against him.
Then why are Bachmann, Cain, and Paul protecting him? I don’t get it.
If Romney is as wishy washy about his faith as about his political values he can't be much of a Mormon.