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China's march through the Caribbean continues
New America Media ^

Posted on 10/09/2011 12:32:51 PM PDT by AfricanChristian

China is continuing its bold economic and geopolitical march through the Caribbean and Latin America, using its growing economic might to dole out grant aid and soft loans to win friends and influence governments, continuing its plans to displace the United States as the region's major trading partner in the not-too-distant future.

For two days this week, a large Chinese delegation led by Vice-Premier Wang Qishan spent hours in talks with Caribbean leaders and business delegations. By the time the forum ended in Trinidad's capital of Port of Spain, Beijing had unveiled measures worth $6.3 billion aimed at sealing better relations with the 15-nation Caribbean trade bloc.

Among the measures Wang announced were the aforementioned concession loans to support regional economic development, a million-dollar donation to the Caribbean Development Fund, support for building a seismic tsunami warning center, increased training of doctors and nurses and a plan to woo Chinese tourists to the Caribbean.

This week's activities centered around the third China-Caribbean forum and attracted more presidents and prime ministers than any of the previous forums, as well as cabinet ministers and business delegations from nearly every country.

For its part, China brought 13 ministers and 80 high-level officials, some of whom sauntered off with various countries to sign bilateral agreements.

(Excerpt) Read more at newamericamedia.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: caribbean; china; commieworld; freetrade; globalism; latinamerica; obama; obamasfault; superpower

1 posted on 10/09/2011 12:32:57 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: AfricanChristian

Yes, indeed. And the US just sits and watches.

We better start learning Chinese, before long they’ll take over the US too, before we realize what’s happening.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 12:35:07 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: AfricanChristian

“China’s march through the Caribbean continues”

No doubt that Ron Paul doesn’t see a problem there either.


3 posted on 10/09/2011 12:35:38 PM PDT by BobL (I want a Conservative for 2012, not Perry)
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To: AfricanChristian

China will learn...How do you make a small fortune in the Caribbean? Come with a large fortune!


4 posted on 10/09/2011 12:41:32 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: AfricanChristian

If you have any questions for “the administration”, just look under his desk for him.....


5 posted on 10/09/2011 12:42:13 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: AfricanChristian
using its growing economic might to dole out grant aid and soft loans to win friends and influence governments

I can't wait to see the improvements they do in Haiti, since we have been shoveling money into that black hole (no pun intended) for decades with no signs of improvement.

and a plan to woo Chinese tourists to the Caribbean.
Gonna be interesting to see what happens when that first tourist is mugged or raped in Jamaica.

6 posted on 10/09/2011 12:46:21 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Clairity

The US rightly focused on counter-terrorism after 9/11. However, the US was so focused on that one problem that it lost track of other equally weighty issues - e.g. the brewing financial crisis and the rise of China.

The Chinese were very smart at seizing opportunities from a distracted United States. When Bush traveled to Malaysia and Indonesia in the wake of 9/11, he was only interested in counter-terrorism but his hosts also wanted to talk economics. He didn’t get it.

Hu Jintao flew down very quickly and signed all sorts of deals with these people. He was all over the place, traveling from South East Asia to Latin America to Africa.

It is not too late for America, America needs a leader who can push for serious economic diplomacy in 2013.


7 posted on 10/09/2011 12:48:58 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: AfricanChristian

I say let the Chinese spend all their money on third world countries and get nothing in return. We have spent billions and have gotten nowhere. The U.S. Simply cannot afford the Neocon globalist money and wars for peace initiatives anymore...


8 posted on 10/09/2011 12:50:26 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: Oatka

Will the ChiCom “snakeheads” bring in “tourists”, get them “papers” and then rent yachts and smuggle them to the USVI (south shore of St Croix, Coral Bay on St. John or Puerto Rico. Not kidding, this isn’t anything new, it’s round 3 or 4. “We’ve” caught a lot of “um” over the years!


9 posted on 10/09/2011 12:54:50 PM PDT by WellyP (REAL)
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To: ColdSteelTalon
I say let the Chinese spend all their money on third world countries and get nothing in return. We have spent billions and have gotten nowhere. The U.S. Simply cannot afford the Neocon globalist money and wars for peace initiatives anymore...

That's simply not correct, US businesses in the so-called "Third World" are very profitable. What is not profitable is US aid which is transferred to Swiss Bank accounts.

Ford's business in Brazil, for example, is very profitable and apart from Venezuela and a few basket cases, you can do very profitable business in Latin / Central America.

10 posted on 10/09/2011 1:06:00 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: Oatka

They are not spending money on Haiti.


11 posted on 10/09/2011 1:10:48 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: AfricanChristian
What is not profitable is US aid which is transferred to Swiss Bank accounts.

Instead of aid lets allow businesses to invest and get out of their way. Seems to me our governmnet allows aid to go to the wrong place and no one seems to be held into account.

The beast must be starved of funds...

12 posted on 10/09/2011 1:15:53 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon (Light is fading to shadow, and casting its shroud over all we have known...)
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To: AfricanChristian

How’s that “free trade” thing working, America?


13 posted on 10/09/2011 1:16:08 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Santorum: Plan B to a certain Grizzly.)
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To: AfricanChristian

I hope the Caribbean people will remember if it is China or the US who comes to their aid during earthquakes and hurricanes.


14 posted on 10/09/2011 1:16:33 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

They won’t.

They will remember who pays appropriate bribes.


15 posted on 10/09/2011 1:19:22 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Santorum: Plan B to a certain Grizzly.)
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To: stars & stripes forever

Providing relief during earthquakes and hurricanes is important, but it is not as important as facilitating job creation.

A nation can go through a decade without a single earthquake or serious hurricane damage, but unemployment is a more serious and more constant problem.

If you noticed, most (if not all of these nations) have unemployment problems.

The US won the “soft power” stakes during the Cold War largely because it could provide more economic opportunities than the Soviet bloc. If the US or its allies are no longer seen as the premier catalyst for economic growth in many parts of the World, then US leadership is badly compromised.

Secondly, we are talking about the Caribbean here, America’s backyard. If the US can’t be competitive here, at least team up with India and inject some dynamism in your trade relations. There is no point chasing bad guys half a World away if you neglect your corner of the Globe.

Thirdly, if you were paying attention to the news, you would have noticed that China launched a 10,000 tonne hospital ship in 2008. They are thinking ahead about projecting soft power during earthquakes and hurricanes.


16 posted on 10/09/2011 1:34:27 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: AfricanChristian

The Chinese learned pretty quick who would play their game and who was looking for another handout. and another. and another. I don’t want to believe that all the countries and people in that part of the world just want to be given everything but I know for a fact some are that way. I know there are areas that couldn’t care less that massive amounts of drugs are passing through their land as long as they get a little money. China won’t put up with their laziness for long. No profit in it.


17 posted on 10/09/2011 1:37:07 PM PDT by EandH Dad (sleeping giants wake up REALLY grumpy)
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To: AfricanChristian

the world didn’t like american “imperialists”,

so we’ll see how they like the chicom imperialists.


18 posted on 10/09/2011 1:38:46 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: stars & stripes forever
I hope the Caribbean people will remember if it is China or the US who comes to their aid during earthquakes and hurricanes.

Just to elaborate on my earlier point - from "Strategy Page"

China has built its first hospital ship. It has three older ones that are converted transports, as well as a medical training ship. But the new vessel, a Type 920 Hospital Ship, is 530 feet long, displaces 23,000 tons, and was designed and built as a hospital ship. It has 600 beds, plus operating rooms, laboratories, pharmacy and crew quarters. China did not give out any statistics, but based on Western hospital ships, the Type 920 probably has a ship crew of about 200 and a medical crew of about 600. China has also built emergency medical facilities that fit into a standard cargo container. Hook up water and electricity, and you can care for all but the most severely injured casualties.

The Type 920 class was designed with disaster relief in mind. This ship can get up most Chinese rivers, and thus can reach many areas where natural disasters cause massive amounts of injuries. China may also be thinking of copying the U.S. Navy, which regularly uses its two hospital ships for providing medical care to areas where there isn't much to begin with, and to areas hit by natural disasters.

19 posted on 10/09/2011 1:39:51 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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China owns both sides of the Panama Canal, is in control of the ports on both shores of America, is investing in South America and now the Caribbean. China has launched its own space station and has many more nuclear submarines than the US. They manufacture sensitive military weapons and supplies for America

I don't believe this is just about the economy.

20 posted on 10/09/2011 1:39:56 PM PDT by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: AfricanChristian

So much for the Monroe Doctrine.


21 posted on 10/09/2011 1:44:46 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Monroe doctrine no longer applies.

After China, expect India to come in a VERY BIG way and Brazil is already proving to big to manage (on track to exceed Britain’s and France’s economy).


22 posted on 10/09/2011 1:50:12 PM PDT by AfricanChristian
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To: stars & stripes forever

On the contrary, it’s ALL about the economy. “Business is War”.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 2:39:25 PM PDT by Mountain Troll (My investment plan - Canned food and shotguns)
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To: AfricanChristian

Listen to your globalist masters. Don’t be so hysterical and afraid, western peasants. China doesn’t exist. There are only ghost cities there, and the yearly production increases are all lies. Let us continue to hike the dollar and shut down what remains of US manufacturing and exports (except for exporting your most needed natural resources), so we can lower the price of freight fuel and finish deconstructing the West to build a better world for you. If you don’t like it, show up at the polls, and vote for one of the candidates that we allow you to select from.


24 posted on 10/09/2011 3:58:20 PM PDT by familyop ("Don't worry, they'll row for a month before they figure out I'm fakin' it." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: AfricanChristian
They are not spending money on Haiti.

My error. Smart people. :-)

25 posted on 10/09/2011 4:18:39 PM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: AfricanChristian

Chinese tourists buying fake Rolexs that they made.


26 posted on 10/09/2011 8:02:55 PM PDT by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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