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Is the Tea Party Over?
New York Times ^ | 10/9/11 | Bill Keller

Posted on 10/09/2011 7:25:05 PM PDT by DRey

The latest Fox poll offered Republican voters a menu of 11 candidates and found...not only were voters scattered across the conservative landscape, but 1/4 of the Tea Party adherents sampled were still “not impressed” with anyone. It’s hard to impress a movement that only knows what it is against. Now, barring some wild twist of fate, there are two men standing: Mitt Romney, the methodical, thrill-free, ideologically elastic technocrat from Massachusetts, who has made himself the default nominee; and the last hope of the hard core, the Not Mitt: Rick Perry.

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...whatever you think of his deviations from Tea Party purity, they make some sense in the context of Texas. His decision to let children of illegal immigrants attend state colleges at the in-state tuition rate, which so scandalizes the zero-tolerance conservatives, is conventional bipartisan pragmatism in Texas. The logic is: if the federal government can’t keep illegals out, it’s not our fault, but we can at least steer them away from the welfare rolls or jails and into productive lives.

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In this race, Rick Perry is the Tea Party’s dream candidate, the one remaining figure who could translate a noisy backlash into serious power. If Rick Perry loses, the Tea Party will have missed the opportunity of a lifetime. If he wins, Perry being Perry, it’s not entirely clear whether he will appease its members, but my guess is he’ll try. “Rick Perry is the only candidate who would actually close down a cabinet department,” one longtime admirer told me, when I asked whether a President Perry would disappoint the Tea Party. “You would see a very happy base — at least for the first term.”

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: newyorkslimes; nyslimes; occupywallstreet; perry; projection; romney; silentmajority; teaparty; wehavejobs
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In a nutshell: if Romney wins, Tea Party goals are toast. Perry is best hope for winning and fulfilling Tea Party aspirations. But make no mistake, this guy hates Perry. The last sentence of his article: The rest of us are left to recall the advice handed down 10 years ago by the late, wisecracking Cassandra of Texas politics, Molly Ivins: “Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention.”
1 posted on 10/09/2011 7:25:07 PM PDT by DRey
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To: DRey

The Tea Party seems to be over. Guess they reverted to the silent majority.


2 posted on 10/09/2011 7:26:47 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: DRey

They wish.


3 posted on 10/09/2011 7:28:02 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: DRey

The Tea Party is just getting started. This Tea Party Republican is happy with Cain.


4 posted on 10/09/2011 7:29:09 PM PDT by pallis
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To: DRey
It’s hard to impress a movement that only knows what it is against.

Gotta hand it to Keller - he is certainly unafraid to reveal his utter cluelessness to the entire world.

Keller knows nothing, and he's proud of it.

5 posted on 10/09/2011 7:30:04 PM PDT by Zeppo ("Happy Pony is on - and I'm NOT missing Happy Pony")
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To: Jim Robinson

Consider the source, i.e., New York Slimes.


6 posted on 10/09/2011 7:30:15 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: DRey

YA AIN’T SEEN NUTTIN’ YET!


7 posted on 10/09/2011 7:30:33 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (2012—They vote twice— we'll vote three times.)
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To: pallis

its not astroturf like the Wall Streeters. Bill check Craig’s list.


8 posted on 10/09/2011 7:30:52 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: DRey
"It’s hard to impress a movement that only knows what it is against."

Idiot leftist can't comprehend the concept of liberty. We're for constitutionally limited government.

9 posted on 10/09/2011 7:31:41 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: pallis

This Tea Party Republican is happy with Cain.


Same here.


10 posted on 10/09/2011 7:33:11 PM PDT by unkus (Silence Is Consent)
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To: DRey

Its not what I am against that does not interest me, its that they are not against what I am against or for what I am for. They are... politicians, wanting to be promoted to the Great Gravy Train Washington DC.

The only one that interests me at all is Cain, and there is plenty of time to get excited.

I want an AMERICAN in office. Not some Eurocrap or Marxist, or Muzzi. I want an American, from America that understands the difference between America and Europe, Asia/Russia or the MiddleEast.

You know, one Nation under God stuff.


11 posted on 10/09/2011 7:33:44 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: DRey

No liberals it is not over. Your ultimate nightmare is just beginning.


12 posted on 10/09/2011 7:35:36 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: DRey
I'm less than impressed with polling data at this point - Gingrich is still polling at 8%, and I didn't even realize he was still in the race (mmm, federal election laws that permit the withdraw of campaign funds equal to the salary of the office being sought...) Supposedly it's Romney/Cain/Perry at this moment in time, with Romney enjoying at least a Bachmann sized lead. How will it look like on the other side of November? Probably pretty similar, with Romney holding around 20%, and two other names following him.

Personally, I think the NY Times is doing what it normally does, trying to make lemonade out of a bad situation.. Make it between Romney and Perry, and send vile towards Perry, and the Republicans will be good boys and girls and gather to defend him, thus making that Cain guy go away.

13 posted on 10/09/2011 7:37:00 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DRey

Did Molly (Barfly) Ives say that? Usually Florence King had to say it first...


14 posted on 10/09/2011 7:37:07 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: DRey

This Tea Party republican is happy with Herman Cain.

I am no longer allowing anyone, particularly media to suggest to me whom I should support.

The last thing America needs is another round of the same old sh!t.


15 posted on 10/09/2011 7:37:12 PM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: DRey
Gee, we're supposed to take advice from the New York Slimes on their choice for the nominee?

In one corner, with great hair is the former governor of Massachusetts who helped pass the state model for ObamaCare.

In the other corner, the challenger, also with great hair is the current governor of Texas who would like to bankrupt the country even faster with amnesty for tens of millions of new socialist voting citizens.

That's just what the Perrywinkles tell us our choices are down to so we have to vote for their guy. No thanks.

16 posted on 10/09/2011 7:37:51 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Jim Robinson

Limited government, lower taxes and less regulation, free market solutions, honest government to name a few.

At least they all lean in a similar direction unlike the psycho left.

They want everything from rights for animals to pedophile marriage and free housing. Basically they’re both nuts and stupid.


17 posted on 10/09/2011 7:38:45 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: DRey

The cool thing about the Tea Party is it WAS REAL. Liberals can’t pull that off - even their protesters are paid shills... There’s an ad on Craig’s List offering to pay up to $650 a week for “Occupy” protesters.


18 posted on 10/09/2011 7:42:51 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: DRey
I saw Herman Cain on televison today--interviewed by some woman--didn't get her name. His IQ is at least three times hers. He is impressive. She looked like a fool.I'm sure she was just having a bad day.

Cain is dynamite!

He's the next President of the U.S.A.

19 posted on 10/09/2011 7:43:58 PM PDT by Savage Beast (America's best hope is the Left's worst nightmare: Herman Cain!)
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To: cripplecreek

Abiding by the constitution automatically gives us limited government, lower taxes, less regulation, free market solutions, honest government (if we impeach/remove the crooks), and individual liberty!

The constitution was designed to allow us to do all of that. We have failed to hold their feet to the fire.


20 posted on 10/09/2011 7:44:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Brilliant
The Tea Party seems to be over. Guess they reverted to the silent majority.

It's not over where I live. There are several Tea Party groups, and they still meet on a regular basis.

21 posted on 10/09/2011 7:44:25 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: DarthVader

I think if Romney is the nominee, instead of dying, the Tea Party will become a third party.


22 posted on 10/09/2011 7:45:53 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

First, let us not derive our electoral mood(s) from the NYTimes.

Second, the TP was diluted some time ago, and this is just opportunistic journalganda from the grey lady herself.

What the TP achieved in the 2010 elections was nation-shaking, remarkable. Do we get two in a row? Less likely, IMO.

There is no question that the re-election of 0bama will be simply terrible from any number of standpoints, even if both bodies of Congress go GOP/TP. I don’t suspect anyone is particularly jazzed over Romney, he could easily be Bob Dole redux. I am also disheartened by folks who will not vote for him out of ideological purity. I think that’s a mistake.

Let’s keep our eyes on the prize. Even if it’s tarnished.


23 posted on 10/09/2011 7:47:01 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Madoff screwed the rich. Bernanke screwed us all.)
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To: DRey

Bill Keller ??? Of the New York Times? The people who couldn’t find Chicago on a map so they could vet Obama?

Hey Bill, you’re a joke. Here’s a hot tip for you - something you and your boys wouldn’t be able to find on your own... It’s a Craig’s List link to an ad looking for paid protesters for “Occupy”. Think you ‘suck more’ people will do a story on it? And the people behind it?

If the Tea Party had conservative fat cats HIRING people to ATTEND Tea Parties, YOU WOULD COVER IT. ‘

Do yourself a favor - cover it and win back credibility. Here’s a link to make it easier:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html


24 posted on 10/09/2011 7:48:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: DRey

This means they’re really, really SCARED and that they want you not to think of Cain.

Did you have a jerky football big-shot in your high-school? Plenty of them did fine, but did you have one that simply kept hanging around town in his letterman jacket, expecting you YEARS LATER to ooh and ahh at him?

THAT is what these lib NYT writers are like —terminal confidence, and TOTALLY misplaced.

If I ever go nuts, I want to have THIS GUY’S version of crazy.

They act like winners NO MATTER WHAT.

Prediction: Total blow-out for Cain, and no more NYT in 5 years.


25 posted on 10/09/2011 7:51:33 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Rocky

The tea party made a helluva difference in 2010 and that will continue in 2012. We the people are pissed off and madder than hell. The Marxist Obama keeps pushing and we’re going to push back. Even if we don’t get a tea party patriot on the presidential ticket, we’re going to continue building on our majorities in the House, the state houses, the local governments and most importantly, we’re going to retake the senate!

Then we start repealing, abolishing, reversing and disbanding the disgraceful, unAmerican, unconstitutional, bloated, overreaching socialist/Marxist government and replace it with... Liberty!

And if a Marxist or RINO president gets in our way, IMPEACH the corrupt liberty-hating bastard!!


26 posted on 10/09/2011 7:53:29 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: DRey

Do not need to go public anymore, working behind the scenes.


27 posted on 10/09/2011 7:53:38 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DRey

Gotta love the NYT, trying to rewrite reality to suit itself.


28 posted on 10/09/2011 7:55:11 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: GOPJ

Oh yeah, that is true, I had screen shot it.


29 posted on 10/09/2011 7:55:31 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: DRey
“Next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please pay attention.”

Indeed! Been there, done that!

Next time around let's look to Georgia for the next POTUS: HERMAN CAIN!!

30 posted on 10/09/2011 7:55:54 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DRey; org.whodat; cripplecreek; TADSLOS; BobL; raybbr; truthfreedom; CowboyJay; Sea Parrot; ...
Using the New York Times to push RINO Rick? LMAO!!

That's a keeper!

31 posted on 10/09/2011 7:57:05 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: gaijin

This person apparently does not understand how the TEA party formed. The letters stand for Taxed Enough Already.

We think if we returned to our Constitution and Founding documents, we can turn ourselves back into the Constitutional Republic our founders envisioned.

IMO, the best man for the job of restoring this nation to it’s founding principals is Herman Cain.


32 posted on 10/09/2011 8:02:41 PM PDT by basil (It's time to rid the country of "gun free zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: DarthVader
Douche bags still in the White House and Senate majority office, So, NO We are quite, respectful,clean up after ourselves, and Vote in large numbers when motivated. Saving our Country, Currency and Savings is a motivator. See ya all again 11/02/12 - New Broom/ Clean Sweep
33 posted on 10/09/2011 8:04:43 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: DRey

The dying Slimes, like the CommiePost is desperate to make this out to be a two-man race.


34 posted on 10/09/2011 8:06:07 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Biggirl

They’ll take it down soon - they always do when they get caught... For now it’s still there:

http://newyork.craigslist.org/brk/gov/2618821815.html


35 posted on 10/09/2011 8:06:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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To: South40

Well its obvious isn’t it?

If the tea party doesn’t want to vote for St Rick its clearly dead. LOL


36 posted on 10/09/2011 8:06:27 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: DRey
They New York Times wishes.
37 posted on 10/09/2011 8:06:45 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: DRey

Bill Keller is a Marxist hack. Nothing he writes is worth reading or discussing.


38 posted on 10/09/2011 8:06:58 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: Hunton Peck

They’re desperate to kill the Tea Party. Remember, their audience is liberals.


39 posted on 10/09/2011 8:07:40 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

NO, the Tea party is fine. It’s over for the NY Times!


40 posted on 10/09/2011 8:08:16 PM PDT by Rodm
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To: PaleoBob

I like peeking behind the liberal curtain from time to time. I find it informative. Sorry if you don’t agree.


41 posted on 10/09/2011 8:09:06 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Biggirl

To the freeper ‘craig’s list’ story:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2790347/posts?page=103


42 posted on 10/09/2011 8:09:15 PM PDT by GOPJ (Where is the headline that says: Obama Murders Hundreds of Mexicans! - freeper xzins)
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Is the NY TIMES still in business? I thought they went out with Zoot suits and raccoon coats.


43 posted on 10/09/2011 8:09:36 PM PDT by TheBigB (The revolution will not be tweeted.)
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To: cripplecreek
If the tea party doesn’t want to vote for St Rick its clearly dead. LOL

lol! So says the NYTimes and Perry's supporters.

44 posted on 10/09/2011 8:11:49 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: Jim Robinson; cripplecreek
We need to put an end to this.


45 posted on 10/09/2011 8:13:49 PM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: DRey

no.


46 posted on 10/09/2011 8:17:31 PM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: DRey

Who keeps reading this paper?


47 posted on 10/09/2011 8:20:30 PM PDT by Tzimisce (Never forget that the American Revolution began when the British tried to disarm the colonists.)
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To: DRey

There is no doubt that Ron Paul will stay in the race, taking 10+% or substantially more. Perry might not even last the year. Romney is a Northern RINO, Perry is a Southern RINO.

Ron Paul invented the tea party.


48 posted on 10/09/2011 8:21:07 PM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: truthfreedom
"Ron Paul invented the tea party."

The hell you say.

49 posted on 10/09/2011 8:22:38 PM PDT by Flag_This (Real presidents don't bow.)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
YA AIN’T SEEN NUTTIN’ YET!

What's a movement if it isn't being heard?

The current Occupy 'whatever' is the movement being heard, and the "tea party" is silent, as far as I can tell.

The squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Those who scream the loudest, get the attention.

Right now, the perception is that, the tea party is no longer active, and that the "Occupy Wall Street" movement is how Americans feel right now.

Whether that's true or not doesn't matter. What matters is that, they're getting the attention, and the media is making sure that they get a lot of attention, and the people at home are being misled.

Astroturf or not, the "Occupy" movement is winning the argument right now.

The tea party is dormant and ineffective right now. The other side is winning the argument.
50 posted on 10/09/2011 8:22:38 PM PDT by adorno (<)
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