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AP Editor: We Still Consider Herman Cain A Second-Tier Candidate
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/10/2011 8:56:06 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Yeah, Herman Cain won the Florida straw poll, crushing Mitt Romney and Rick Perry. And OK, a CBS poll recently found him tied with Romney among likely Republican primary voters. Sure, he also scored a resounding victory in another straw poll this weekend. And Rasmussen just today released the finding that 56% of GOP voters like Cain's 9-9-9 plan.

So is that enough to make the Associated Press consider Cain a first-tier candidate? Nah. On MSNBC's "Daily Rundown" this morning, AP's political editor, Liz Sidoti, sniffed "we still consider him a second-tier candidate."

View the video here.

(Excerpt) Read more at newsbusters.org ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012presidential; arrogance; associatedpress; dinosaurs; eastcoast; elite; hermancain; intelligentsia; ivyleaguers; knowitalls; libs; lizsidoti; runningscared; scared; scaredshitless; threatened

1 posted on 10/10/2011 8:56:16 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Liberal media still trying to pick our candidate for us. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 10/10/2011 8:57:28 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Well AP. We all consider you a 3rd rate, leftist news outfit. What you think matters little anymore.


3 posted on 10/10/2011 8:58:35 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Good!

The longer they think that, the longer it will take them to get the Media sleaze machine running against him.


4 posted on 10/10/2011 8:58:35 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That’s OK - for the past 20 years I’ve considered the Associated Press as a second-tier news source....


5 posted on 10/10/2011 8:59:17 AM PDT by Yossarian ("All the charm of Nixon. All the competency of Carter." - SF Chronicle comment post on Obama)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

life on the democrat plantation.


6 posted on 10/10/2011 9:01:44 AM PDT by ken21 (ruling class dem + rino progressives -- destroying america for 150 years.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The reasoning behind that statement is simple: racism.


7 posted on 10/10/2011 9:01:44 AM PDT by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Of course these people think he’s second rate...they’re afraid of him.


8 posted on 10/10/2011 9:02:36 AM PDT by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax - Winston Churchill)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

At least they’re no longer saying he’s third tier.


9 posted on 10/10/2011 9:02:44 AM PDT by Jonty30
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I don’t consider you at all, AP.


10 posted on 10/10/2011 9:03:08 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Well, they don’t really have to since the perry supporters are doing such a bang up job of it, do they? It’s a crying shame.


11 posted on 10/10/2011 9:03:52 AM PDT by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yo, Liz:

That’s Racist!


12 posted on 10/10/2011 9:04:19 AM PDT by roaddog727 (It's the Constitution, Stupid!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey Liz a large number of Americans consider AP to be a fifth tier leftist propaganda outfit that is totally unable to exhibit any journalistic integrity.


13 posted on 10/10/2011 9:04:50 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

” - - - AP’s political editor, Liz Sidoti, sniffed “we still consider him a second-tier candidate.”

Sure, Lizzie. Got it. Now tell us something that we didn’t already know about your news research !


14 posted on 10/10/2011 9:04:51 AM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

That makes two now...

Paul
Cain

Brian Sussman (KSFO) had a great segment this morning where he played a Matthews clip...in which Matthews flat out ignores Paul and Cain and pushes 100% Perry and Romney as though there is no one else.

It’s not even funny or sad anymore...it’s downright pathetic.

=8-)


15 posted on 10/10/2011 9:07:32 AM PDT by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Dearest AP: With the HUGE variety of international news reporting agencies around the world now available to millions of us, in an unfettered and uncensored fashion, many of which I can now read in an extremely up-top-date fashion in their original languages and in various formats: live TV, tweets, facebook, webpages, blogs, audio streaming live, podcasts and the like, I CONSIDER YOU AS BEING ***THIRD TIER**** IN THE JOURNALIST PECKING ORDER OF FACTUAL ANALYSIS AND NEWS OF BOTH IMPORTANCE AND CREDIBILITY TO ME, AN AVERAGE, THINKING AMERICAN.

16 posted on 10/10/2011 9:08:18 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (To all good FRiends who supported Gov. Palin. I never badmouthed her. Please now join us w/ MR. CAIN)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

For those who doubt Cain (including me), that’s one more reason to pick him.


17 posted on 10/10/2011 9:16:51 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

We? Who gives a d@mn what Democrats think. This is a republican primary.


18 posted on 10/10/2011 9:17:38 AM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Liz Sidoti = RAAAAAACIST! (throwing it back in your face, libs!)


19 posted on 10/10/2011 9:19:55 AM PDT by stratman1969
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To: dainbramaged

Careful...this may be their strategy to draw us in. People will figure out your message without us having to talk about it. (I totally agree with you though).


20 posted on 10/10/2011 9:21:41 AM PDT by sanjuanbob (Festina Lente)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

Brian Sussman (KSFO) had a great segment this morning where he played a Matthews clip...in which Matthews flat out ignores Paul and Cain and pushes 100% Perry and Romney as though there is no one else.

It’s not even funny or sad anymore...it’s downright pathetic.

***

If Cain keeps this up, Matthews might need to reconsider his “pravda” ways.

It stinks to lie, and it’s worse when you are caught.


21 posted on 10/10/2011 9:23:45 AM PDT by ROTB (Christian sin breeds enemies for the USA. If you're a Christian, stop sinning, and spread the Word..)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
2nd tier? Really?


22 posted on 10/10/2011 9:25:20 AM PDT by South40 (Reject the pro-ILLEGAL candidate. Vote conservative -- vote for Herman Cain!)
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To: RexBeach
Of course these people think he’s second rate...they’re afraid of him.

Second tier, not second rate. And people have gotta stop with the "they are afraid of him/her" stuff. It's really getting old. Every one who supports a candidate feels the need to inform us of how the establishment "fears" or is "terrified" of their candidate. We are not anywhere near along in the process for the enemy to fear Cain or anyone else yet.

Cain is leading in many polls, but has gotten little scrutiny till now. Being right on many issues, and some good poll numbers isn't even close to enough if he can't raise lots of money and doesn't build strong state organizations. Political analysts consider Cain second tier because he does not seem to be able to translate his poll boomlet into money - at least not yet.

Cain is a good guy, is quick on his feet and doing pretty well so far - but until he can raise the kind of money that Romney and Perry can, he is going to be viewed as 2nd tier because he has never won so much as a primary before (and lost the one he did run for in Georgia) and people will remain very doubtful if he can until he proves otherwise.

23 posted on 10/10/2011 9:27:30 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Yossarian
- for the past 20 years I’ve considered the Associated Press as a second-tier news source....

You're generous. I consider the National Enquirer headlines which I read while waiting in the checkout line in the grocery store to be more credible . . . and far more entertaining.

24 posted on 10/10/2011 9:32:15 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

“in which Matthews flat out ignores Paul and Cain and pushes 100% Perry and Romney”

The mainstream media sets the narrative, if it doesn’t fit the narrative, they ignore it. TRUTH no longer matters to much of todays media..

If the gay mafia on the New York Times Editorial Board, and the NBC Newsrooms decide it, it is so., and much of the rest of the media will play along.
Welcome to the new reality.


25 posted on 10/10/2011 9:35:52 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

We’ll remember you said that just before we pay even less attention to you after Cain is in office.


26 posted on 10/10/2011 9:36:32 AM PDT by Avery Iota Kracker (He hate me)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Everyone who dismisses Cain and/or says they won’t vote for him are racists. Repeat it loud and often.


27 posted on 10/10/2011 9:41:28 AM PDT by Terry Mross (I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Longbow1969
All that is academic.

I will not vote for that phoney son of a bitch Romney even if it means the communist in chief gets another 4 years, and no self respecting conservative should either.

As far as I m concerned the muslim in chief wont be getting causing anymore damage to anybody but his own party, he doesn't have the House and most likely will not have the Senate.

Time to destroy the bluebloods at the RNC once and for all,they give us Romney, all bets are off.

28 posted on 10/10/2011 9:42:09 AM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Whether you like Cain or not, it’s pretty obvious that the Republican Party, the Democrat Party, and the media are terrified that a smart conservative black guy with the ability to make a coherent argument without help from his staff could actually get into the top-tier running.

This is why there is a definite push to move up Republican Primaries and it’s being done by Romney via the Republican Party.

But that’s what you get from “career” politicians with that “awesome voting record” and “political experience” that some prefer - over anything else.


29 posted on 10/10/2011 9:47:57 AM PDT by Noamie
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

A question for all you Cain experts:

What is his approach to 2a issues as well as drilling? What I have heard sounds a bit soft...


30 posted on 10/10/2011 9:53:46 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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To: Rome2000
Time to destroy the bluebloods at the RNC once and for all,they give us Romney, all bets are off.

"They" will not give you Romney. There is no conspiracy. Romney will win if the majority of Republicans vote for him in the primaries. If he is to be stopped, another candidate will have to persuade Republicans who bother to vote in the primaries that he/she is the better candidate AND is electable. Cain is doing well in polls, but does not seem to be raising much money and does not yet have impressive state organizations. Until that changes, he will be regarded as a second tier flash in the pan. Can will need huge numbers of individual/small donations, because the big money folks are not likely to donate large amounts to a candidate who has yet to prove he can win a single election or primary anywhere yet - it is one of the big downsides to having no elective experience.

31 posted on 10/10/2011 9:56:28 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This would be my dream ticket:

Herman and Newt on the same ticket. I don’t care who is chosen as pres. or VP on the ticket. Both together have an explosion to offer. They will both feed off one another.

Bolton….I would hire him to get us out of the UN and the UN out of the US. He would also be hired to clean up our Marxist state department and the embassies around the world to include shutting down many of them forever and to stop giving my tax money to every county in the world. Those countries either fly or sink. Too bad, so sad.

Sarah would fit in as a good local advisor in cleaning out the trash in D.C. and all over the U.S. and abroad. That is one huge job.


32 posted on 10/10/2011 10:02:57 AM PDT by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So what? He won’t be a second-tier president or a total loser like we have now. As long as Cain wins the primaries and beats Obama, the naysayers can say whatever they want. No one seems to be listening.


33 posted on 10/10/2011 10:05:03 AM PDT by pallis
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

So AP is carrying water for Mitt and Perry. That’s interesting.


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To: Graewoulf

Was Liz born into the Mafia or is she just married to it?


36 posted on 10/10/2011 10:25:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Yeah right AP.... Herman Cain is 2nd Tier and that is why you and everyone else is talking about him.


37 posted on 10/10/2011 12:04:06 PM PDT by Sprite518
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To: muawiyah

” - - - SIDOTI: Well, you know, I think this is very difficult. This is something that we wrestle with at the AP often, - - - “

[Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/mark-finkelstein/2011/10/10/ap-editor-we-still-consider-herman-cain-second-tier-candidate#ixzz1aPZlpQEj]

You just may have a point. I re-read the article, and the word “wrestle” could well be code for “strong-arm” or some other Mafia means of persuasion.

BTW, she DID mention having “reporters” at Cain’s book signing - - - .


38 posted on 10/10/2011 1:19:19 PM PDT by Graewoulf ( obama"care" violates the 1890 Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND is illegal by the U.S. Constitution.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I wonder if Liz Sidoti knows that she looks like a rodent.


39 posted on 10/10/2011 1:26:58 PM PDT by Gator113 (~ Just livin' life~)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

“We” won’t be voting for him. “We” never vote in GOP primaries.


40 posted on 10/10/2011 5:24:11 PM PDT by EDINVA ( Jimmy McMillan '12: because RENT'S, TOO DAMN HIGH)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The rest of the story is, AP considers the second tier to include anyone who is not Zero.

IOW, **** AP.

Thanks governsleastgovernsbest.

Cain Ties Romney in RCP Average
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2793489/posts


41 posted on 10/16/2011 7:21:33 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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