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The Myth of Voter Fraud [BARF Alert]
The New York Times ^ | October 9, 2011 | The New York Times

Posted on 10/10/2011 11:48:03 AM PDT by feralcat

It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote — 19 laws and two executive actions in 14 states dominated by Republicans, according to a new study by the Brennan Center for Justice. As a result, more than five million eligible voters will have a harder time participating in the 2012 election.

Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: acorn; aliens; corruption; deaddemsvoting; democratcorruption; democratvoterfraud; dncmedia; election; electionfraud; elections; enemedia; fraud; liberalfascism; liberalmedia; mediabias; msm; nyt; nytimes; polls; sliming4votefraud; voter; voterfraud; voterid
This idiotic editorial insists there is no evidence of voter fraud.

Yet with regards to a photo ID requirement to vote it insists, "Many [voters] are poor, or elderly, or black and Hispanic and could have a hard time navigating the bureaucracy to get a card." What evidence is there of that???

1 posted on 10/10/2011 11:48:17 AM PDT by feralcat
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To: feralcat
This means a big part of the dems election strategy for Obama is they're planning a megaton of voter fraud and already are starting the cover.
2 posted on 10/10/2011 11:51:19 AM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: feralcat

Myth my @$$. The NYT boys and girls sound like someone who has been doing way too many recreational drugs.


3 posted on 10/10/2011 11:51:49 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Greed" is wanting everything and demanding that somebody else pay for it.)
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To: feralcat
There is almost no voting fraud in America.

Gee, I guess The Slimes never heard of Chi-town back in 1960 when the Rats scrounged up enough votes from the cemeteries to give Kennedy the election.
4 posted on 10/10/2011 11:52:08 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: feralcat

Yeah, it’s a MYTH that Democrats do voter fraud, despite the hundreds of Democrats convicted of outright voter fraud and related crimes in the last decade or so.

IT’S ALL IN YOUR MIND...
JUST DISBELIEVE, AND IT WILL ALL BE BETTER.


5 posted on 10/10/2011 11:52:33 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: feralcat

Anything the left or the MSM calls a “myth” in the political or cultural realm is almost certainly true. Consequently, I take this article as an admission by the NYT that there is massive vote fraud by the Ds.


6 posted on 10/10/2011 11:52:44 AM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: feralcat
Apparently New York Editorial writers do not realize there is this thing called google

Try googling "Voter Fraud Convictions".

Seems, yet again, the facts do not support the opinions of the NY Times.

7 posted on 10/10/2011 11:52:59 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: feralcat

My O-bot friend, who gets her ‘news’/’information’/’thoughts’/’ideas’ exclusively from MSNBC has been parroting this myth for over a month, now....


8 posted on 10/10/2011 11:54:09 AM PDT by Uncle Ike (Rope is cheap, and there are lots of trees...)
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To: feralcat

When is the last time anybody ever heard about republican voter fraud? Voter fraud is 100% owned by the democrat party.


9 posted on 10/10/2011 11:56:44 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Citizen Cain is good enough for me! - "refermech")
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To: feralcat

Project Vote — What Could Go Wrong?

In his article, “Frances Fox Piven Joins Board of Project Vote — What Could Go Wrong?,” Kyle Olson reports that while ACORN has earned much of the scorn of the press and public in recent months, its voter registration arm, Project Vote, is actually the entity that has been conducting the questionable voter registration drives.

Project Vote has been accused of voter registrations fraud in more than a dozen states. Its parent group ACORN, along with a staff member, were tried and found guilty of fraud in Nevada. Recently, ACORN was nailed under the RICO Act in Ohio and ordered to never come back to the state. More importantly, the settlement also said ACORN couldn’t simply morph into another organization and cause the same type of trouble in Ohio.

In short, Project Vote is at the root of ACORN’s voter registration fraud problems.

So as ACORN is transforming, Project Vote is transforming, too. According to a new article in The Nation, Frances Fox Piven of “Cloward-Piven Strategy” fame, recently joined the Project Vote board of directors.

Stealing CT

The State Elections Enforcement Commission has opened an investigation into allegations that a community activist organization submitted at least 10 false voter-registration cards in Bridgeport.

One of the phony registrations was for a 7-year-old girl in the Marina Village housing complex, whose age was listed as 27 on the voter card.

Another registration came from a man who later said he couldn’t have completed the voter card purported to be his because he was in jail on the date of the document.

Joseph J. Borges, the city’s Republican registrar of voters, filed the complaint with state officials after months of local complaints on the tactics that ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, was regularly filing applications that were ruled ineligible.

In response, a Bridgeport leader of ACORN on Tuesday night called the charges “part of a concerted and coordinated campaign by conservatives and the GOP to attack and discredit ACORN.”

Stealing IA

New voter registrations closed Monday in Lake County with possible record-breaking numbers and simmering allegations of fraud and racial discrimination.

Elections board Director Sally LaSota said more than 12,000 voter registration forms are waiting to be processed from recent days before the county knows how many potential voters are ready to cast ballots in the Nov. 4 general election.

“It may be a record,” she said.

Porter County has processed at least 3,500 voter applications since the spring primary in May, officials there said.

However, the large influx has brought new controversies.

LaSota said Monday representatives of ACORN, dropped off 2,000 new voter applications last week in Lake County.

“About 1,100 are no good,” she said.

This is one of those news stories you can hardly believe. In Lake County, Indiana, ACORN turned in 5,000 new registrations. The authorities there started reviewing them, and quit after they found that the first 2,100 were all fraudulent. The mind boggles: ACORN turns in thousands of new registrations, and not a single one represents a legitimate voter. (video)

Stealing MI

The Michigan Secretary of State told the press in September that ACORN had submitted “a sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent applications.”

Stealing MO

Officials in Missouri, a hard-fought jewel in the presidential race, are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms submitted by an advocacy group that has been accused of election fraud in other states.

Charlene Davis, co-director of the election board in Jackson County, where Kansas City is, said the fraudulent registration forms came from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. She said they were bogging down work Wednesday, the final day Missourians could register to vote.

“I don’t even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy,” Davis said. “We have identified about 100 duplicates, and probably 280 addresses that don’t exist, people who have driver’s license numbers that won’t verify or Social Security numbers that won’t verify. Some have no address at all.”

The nonpartisan group works to recruit low-income voters, who tend to lean Democratic. Most polls show Republican presidential candidate John McCain with an edge in bellwether Missouri, but Democrat Barack Obama continues to put up a strong fight.

Jess Ordower, Midwest director of ACORN, said his group hasn’t done any registrations in Kansas City since late August. He said he was told three weeks ago by election officials that there were only about 135 questionable cards — 85 of them duplicates.

“They keep telling different people different things,” he said. “They gave us a list of 130, then told someone else it was 1,000.”

FBI spokeswoman Bridget Patton said the agency has been in contact with elections officials about potential voter fraud and plans to investigate.

Stealing NV

Earlier this month, Nevada’s Democratic Secretary of State Ross Miller requested a raid on ACORN’s offices, following complaints of false names and fictional addresses (including the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys). Nevada’s Clark County Registrar of Voters Larry Lomax said he saw rampant fraud in 2,000 to 3,000 applications ACORN submitted weekly.

Stealing OH

Teenager Freddie Johnson said he was offered smokes and dollar bills to fill out voter registration cards.

And now the Cuyahoga County Elections Board has 73 cards with Johnson’s name on them.

Johnson and another prolific registrant were subpoenaed to testify at a meeting Monday as the Elections Board continued its look at possible fraud by ACORN, a national organization that tries to get low- and moderate-income people to register. ACORN’s methods have drawn interest in a number of states this presidential election year.

Johnson, 19, said he mostly was trying to help ACORN workers who begged him to sign up because they needed to keep their jobs.

“They’d come up with a sob story why they needed the signature,” said Johnson, of Garfield Heights.

An initial review found that about 200,000 newly registered voters reported information that did not match motor-vehicle or Social Security records. Close to one in every three newly registered Ohio voters will end up on court-ordered lists being sent to county election boards because they have some discrepancy in their records, an elections spokesman said Wednesday.

ACORN leaders have acknowledged that workers paid by the hour were given quotas to fill.

Stealing PA

A retired Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justice says that she is “not confident we can get a fair election” in the state come November.

Justice Sandra Newman, accompanied by Dauphin County District Attorney Edward Marsico and Pennsylvania Republican State Chairman Robert Gleason, expressed her concerns at a Harrisburg press conference this morning. A thick document replete with photo copies of phony registrations and aerial shots of vacant lots used as “addresses” for “voters” was handed out to journalists.

Gleason was even more explicit.

“Between March 23rd and October 1st, various groups, including ACORN, submitted over 252,595 registrations to the Philadelphia County Election Board” with 57,435 rejected for faulty information. “Most of these registrations were submitted by ACORN, and rejected due to fake social security numbers, incorrect dates of birth, clearly fraudulent signatures, addresses that do not exist, and duplicate registrations. In one case, a man was registered to vote more than 15 times since the Primary election.”

According to city officials, close to 8,000 applications turned in by ACORN are problematic, including the 1,500 already sent to the U.S. Attorney, and officials expect the number to climb. Greg Voigt says so far his office is catching them, making sure no bad registrations lead to bad votes, but admits he has limited staff.

ACORN has said it is actually identifying these problematic registrations in advance and trying to notify authorities. In Philadelphia, ACORN said it flagged, I guess, 5,000 applications before the officials found them.

Not according to the city officials, not true. Officials say that ACORN came in with a bundle of 1,100 that they thought were suspect. Actually, it turned out a couple of hundred of them were actually good voter registration cards that they processed and sent voter cards out to. So, there are a lot of disparities between the number that ACORN is getting and what city officials checking the actual records are getting, and that number is only going to grow as they continue to process more of these for this election.

“Voter fraud is no longer just a Philadelphia problem,” Gleason said, with ACORN targeting key counties across the state. Counties specifically cited included:

Stealing WI

Milwaukee County prosecutors Tuesday charged a convicted felon with illegally registering himself and others to vote between his conviction and his sentencing.

The complaint accuses Adam Mucklin, 22, of registering to vote in June, after he was convicted of battery in April, and after a judge told him he couldn’t vote as a convicted felon. Later in June, Mucklin signed up to work as a paid voter registrar for the Community Voters Project, something else he couldn’t do as a convicted felon, the complaint says.

A recent opinion from the staff of the state Government Accountability Board says no one convicted of a felony can ever serve as a registrar, a stricter standard than the previous interpretation that registrars only had to be eligible to vote.

Under Wisconsin law, felons can’t vote until after they have completed their sentences and are off probation or parole. For Mucklin, that would not be until Jan. 10, 2012, the complaint notes.
Voter Fraud

Michelle Malkin reports on an entire houseful (photo) of young, non-Ohioan Democrat activists have used the Brownlee Avenue address to register themselves to vote in the Buckeye State and secure absentee ballots under extremely shady circumstances — all while mobilizing a large effort to register thousands of others for absentee and early voting. The activists are leaders of a group called “Vote From Home ‘08.” The group is self-identified as having “extensive experience with political organizing, election administration, and Democratic politics.” They were hailed as the “Justice League” by a Daily Kos blogger. Their Facebook page brags: “Want to turn the Presidential election blue in a key swing state? Vote from Home is a political organization that was founded by a team of young people for the purpose of assisting, aiding, and tracking voters to elect progressive candidates to the White House. Encouraged by the excitement of the 2008 elections and the movement around the Democratic candidates, Vote From Home will be in Ohio seeking to deliver 10,000 votes to Democratic candidates statewide.”

Palestra.net, a network of young reporters who have been doing the voter and registration fraud reporting that the MSM has been slow to do, have a breaking investigative report on how several members of the Democrat Vote From Home team — all Rhodes, Marshall, Fulbright, and Truman Scholars studying abroad — are turning up on Franklin County voter rolls despite having no bona fide residence in Ohio and admittedly having little to no knowledge about the state before descending on it in August to sign up other new voters in a rush to put 10,000 Obama supporters on the rolls.


10 posted on 10/10/2011 11:57:20 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: MNJohnnie

“Apparently New York Editorial writers do not realize there is this thing called google”

Remember, the Village Voice doesn’t call the New York Times Editorial Board “the Gay Mafia”, for nothing.

In TODAY’S gay-run media world, the truth no longer matters, just the narrative. If it doesn’t support the pre-approved narrative, it is ignored.

George Orwell warned us what would eventually happen.


11 posted on 10/10/2011 11:58:28 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Election 2012: THE RAPTURE OF THE DEMOCRATS)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
From the Brennan Ctr Website: Four goals animate our work towards comprehensive reform:

A voting system in which every vote counts, all citizens are registered, eligibility rules are expansive and turnout increases dramatically. Our voting reform work aims towards universal voter registration.

An electoral redistricting system that protects civil rights, promotes partisan balance, and preserves real communities.

A campaign finance system that reduces the role of big money in elections by providing voluntary public financing at the national, state and local levels.

Fair, impartial courts that protect equal justice, individual rights and the checks and balances essential to the rule of law and promotion of standards to hold judges accountable for unbiased, reasoned and transparent decision-making.

12 posted on 10/10/2011 11:59:07 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: feralcat
I defy anyone to get into the NY Times offices without a photo ID. In fact, you need one like on the ID on the left:

I need a photo ID for just about every minor thing in my life, ESPECIALLY all governmental interactions.

The democrat party is legendary for its voter fraud, even proud of it. And the NY Times is part of this criminality.

13 posted on 10/10/2011 12:00:59 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember
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To: feralcat

Having worked the polls in PA in 2008, I can assure you that there is voter fraud, it is widespread, and it is a significant problem for representative democracy. I personally witnessed voter intimidation (not the guys in the well-publicized photos, but not all that different either). I personally witnessed attempts at voter fraud, some of which we stopped and some of which no doubt slipped through. This is not an isolated instance; I was called to one polling place after another by poll watchers who felt overwhelmed by the fraud/intimidation and didn’t know what to do when dealing with precinct/poll officials who didn’t care.

What can we do? (1) Bring cameras (I foolishly did not bring one in 2008). (2) Get trained in advance and volunteer as a poll watcher or at a GOP/Campaign headquarters responding to trouble calls. (3) Do not be intimidated or allow others to face intimidating situations on their own. The next election may be the last meaningful election for our country if we lose. We cannot afford to lose this one.


14 posted on 10/10/2011 12:04:22 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: feralcat

No evidence for fraud when we have precincts where over 100% of the eligible voters voted?

When we can actually point to a congressional district that changed hands based on the votes of illegal aliens?

Geez. What are these people smoking?


15 posted on 10/10/2011 12:05:17 PM PDT by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: feralcat

The RATS are hysterical that they may lose their ability to steal elections. Here in KS, the governor proposed a voter ID law, and the leftist editors have been soiling their Depends for months, claiming that there is no voter fraud. If there’s no fraud, why are the RATS so worried, hmm?


16 posted on 10/10/2011 12:08:08 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: ozzymandus

Jesse Jackass inadvertantly let the cat out of the bag and told us how much fraud HE thinks there is.

He said that requiring photo ID would “suppress 11%” of the democRat vote total.


17 posted on 10/10/2011 12:10:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: feralcat
You are SOOOOOOOOO right giving this a "barf alert."

I'm on the KS side of MO (Kansas City, MO, that is) and we've had lots of voter fraud across both sides of the State Line but on the MO side ruled by democRATS, ignore most all of it, claiming that it's so "small as to be almost non-existent."Of course, the charge is one of a misdemeanor as well which might get you a slap on the wrist in KS but nothing at all in MO, not even a charge.

Here in the last election, running the GOP election office, had a lady call to tell me that she had received notice that she had requested a "mail in ballot" in the mail. Problem: she had not filed to get one and planned on voting in person!

What was worse: the signature on the request was hers! How did that happen, you might ask. Her supposition was that a young minority showed up at her door telling her about some "service project" he was to do for his "social studies" class. After asking her the questions from his "service project" required, he asked her if she would "sign" his sheet that he was to take to his "teacher."

This lady said that, after the fact and combined with some local stories about ACORN's sham voter abuse tactics, she thought that he could have been a plant getting people's information and signatures for fraudulent purposes!

This is actually one such report that came in in the '08 election but there are numerous glaring instances and thankfully Kris Kobach (the Constitution Lawyer who wrote or co-wrote the AZ illegal alien law) was elected Sec. of State for KS and he's keenly aware of those problems and how even one fraudulent vote devalues all legal votes.

18 posted on 10/10/2011 12:13:21 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: feralcat

If vote fraud isn’t a major issue, why are the leftists fighting so hard to protect it?

Tightening ID requirements and better verification of absentee ballots in the swing states pose a deadly threat to the Rats next year. This isn’t the last fearmongering article we’ll be seeing from Rat Central. It just underscores how crucial it is to win this battle.


19 posted on 10/10/2011 12:14:21 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: All

How are you getting and cashing govt. checks without ID?!?


20 posted on 10/10/2011 12:14:41 PM PDT by Maverick68
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To: feralcat
"It has been a record year for new legislation designed to make it harder for Democrats to vote...."

HUH???

How does turning voting back to needing voter ID "make it harder for Democrats to vote?"

As Ricky Ricardo would say to Lucy, "splain that to me, Lucy?"

21 posted on 10/10/2011 12:16:37 PM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: zerosix

In a 7/4 parade, Kobach was walking with his family, and his kid was carrying a sign that said “My daddy will stop voter fraud”.

I cheered.


22 posted on 10/10/2011 12:18:43 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: feralcat
"Many [voters] are poor, or elderly, or black and Hispanic and could have a hard time navigating the bureaucracy to get a card."

Only a racist would believe that being black and Hispanic makes someone less capable of navigating Big Government's bureaucracy than whites, non-Hispanics, Asians, or any other race.

23 posted on 10/10/2011 12:19:06 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: zerosix

Yeah, why will it just affect democRats?


24 posted on 10/10/2011 12:19:16 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Hunton Peck

LOL- Yeah he could of stopped at poor or elderly. His statement suggests blacks with PHDs are unable to figure out how to obtain photo identification.


25 posted on 10/10/2011 12:29:15 PM PDT by Augustinian monk
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To: feralcat

is he saying that democrat voters are less likely to be able to navigate around to get a card? is he sayign that democrat voters are incompetent, stupid, or what?


26 posted on 10/10/2011 12:30:55 PM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: feralcat


27 posted on 10/10/2011 12:33:43 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama's secret: "Once you learn to fake sincerity you've got it made")
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To: feralcat

Obama and Harry Reid are both in office by voter fraud, and only by voter fraud.


28 posted on 10/10/2011 12:42:39 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: feralcat

“Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities”

What a crock!!!! Perfect example of how the NY Slimes use their brainwash technique. They don’t care about the dead votes or depriving the military or escorting mentally disabled to the polls and voting for them and on and on.


29 posted on 10/10/2011 12:51:41 PM PDT by kenmcg (pROBLEM)
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To: feralcat

I guess NY must be a sea of purity surrounded by a cesspool of cheating liars.

6 Charged With Voter Fraud in Minnesota (2008 Elections)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2612479/posts

Family of Minnesota Man With Mental Disabilities Says He Is a Victim of Voter Fraud

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2699937/posts

Felon who got break for voting skips court date (MN)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2131613/posts

Minnesota voters back voter-ID amendment 76/18
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2725945/posts

Minnesota governor Marx Dayton vetoes voter identification bill
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2725647/posts

Not a myth here in MN.


30 posted on 10/10/2011 12:55:06 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: kenmcg

Actually, all hyperbole aside, that IS their mentality when it comes to voting, welfare, etc.

The sheeperals don’t care how many abuse the system (or even see it sometimes) as long as everyone who is possibly eligible gets to vote or get a government check. To possibly exclude someone on the basis of making sure everyone follows the rules seems “mean” to them.

I’m not making an argument for their mentality, but simply explaining their mentality.


31 posted on 10/10/2011 12:58:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: feralcat

I like their list of “honest” mistakes... “ A mother trying to cast a vote for her daughter away at college.”


32 posted on 10/10/2011 1:06:29 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: feralcat

I like their list of “honest” mistakes... “ A mother trying to cast a vote for her daughter away at college.”


33 posted on 10/10/2011 1:06:50 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: feralcat

I like their list of “honest” mistakes... “ A mother trying to cast a vote for her daughter away at college.”


34 posted on 10/10/2011 1:07:08 PM PDT by HapaxLegamenon
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To: feralcat

I was in Disney and Universal this summer. To reenter you need to be electronically fingerprinted.
I guess they were intentionally keeping out the poor, elderly, black and Hispanics.


35 posted on 10/10/2011 1:10:51 PM PDT by hecht ("Murray, use your coaster")
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To: feralcat
All the evidence one needs to counter the left on this issue is here...

The Liberal Fear of Voter Identification
36 posted on 10/10/2011 1:26:19 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: feralcat

“turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities.”

God decided He was finally fed up with the human race and decided to end it for good. He called up a reporter at the New York Times to tell him the news: The world would end the day after tomorrow. The reporter tried to talk God out of it, but God was firm and wouldn’t be swayed. The reporter then asked if he had an exclusive. God said that He was going to call other newspapers. Headlines the next day:

The Wall Street Journal: “God says world to end tomorrow; market to close early”

USA Today: “IT’S OVER!”

The new York times: “God says world to end tomorrow; women and minorities hardest hit.”


37 posted on 10/10/2011 1:32:40 PM PDT by lowbridge (Rep. Dingell: "Its taken a long time.....to control the people.")
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


38 posted on 10/10/2011 1:34:19 PM PDT by HiJinx ("Family values don’t stop at the Gulf of Aden." Flag_This)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

Ping!


39 posted on 10/10/2011 1:36:19 PM PDT by HiJinx ("Family values don’t stop at the Gulf of Aden." Flag_This)
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To: feralcat
Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day

The polls are open 13 hours on election day. What "working people" can't find a few minutes in that time?

I'm not sure how much "cutting back on early voting" folks are talking about but in CA you have an entire month to vote. Any voter can do so by mail or a voter can drop into their local registrar's office to cast a ballot.

40 posted on 10/10/2011 1:49:24 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Obama wins in 2012.)
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To: HapaxLegamenon
True story. I was poll watching in the last election, as we usually do. One daughter is registered as a Democrat, the other is registered as a Republican. The law here is that absentee ballots have to be in about 5 days before election day to enable the people who deliver the registered voting books to also deliver the absentee ballots.

The Democrat registered daughter's ballot arrived on time even though she posted it two weeks later and from a more distant location than the daughter registered as a Republican. I have more than mere suspicion to think it was not just a coincidence.

41 posted on 10/10/2011 2:08:32 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: HapaxLegamenon
True story. I was poll watching in the last election, as we usually do. One daughter is registered as a Democrat, the other is registered as a Republican. The law here is that absentee ballots have to be in about 5 days before election day to enable the people who deliver the registered voting books to also deliver the absentee ballots.

The Democrat registered daughter's ballot arrived on time even though she posted it two weeks later and from a more distant location than the daughter registered as a Republican. I have more than mere suspicion to think it was not just a coincidence.

42 posted on 10/10/2011 2:08:36 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: feralcat
This idiotic editorial insists there is no evidence of voter fraud.

Well, yeah, because no one is paying attention to it. Then, when Voter ID is passed and the fraud goes away, the same people say "See, I told you so."

To me, this is akin to saying "There are no speeders on the interstate." and parking a cop very visibly on the road at 1/4 mile intervals to prove the point.

Just the fact that Dems are universally against Voter ID, screams to me that there is a fraud issue. If there are no problems, then I'd think people would be fairly evenly split.

43 posted on 10/10/2011 2:11:15 PM PDT by wbill
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To: feralcat

Democrats vote fraudulently more than nonDemocrats? OK....


44 posted on 10/10/2011 3:01:02 PM PDT by brytlea (Wake me when it's over...)
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To: feralcat

The following is a description of a common scam. I know of it because it happened to my sis-inlaw. When she was caught up in it she was helped by an election day trouble shooter from the local republican party who also explained how the scam works and told us that it is very common.

My sis-in-law has been a registered republican voter for many years but has almost never voted. In the 2004 Presidential election I convinced her to vote. When she went to the polling place they refused to let her cast a vote because a mail in absentee ballot had already been submitted in her name. With the help of the local republican party they eventually allowed her to cast a provisional ballot. It probably ended up in the trash bin.

Here is what we were told about the scam: Democrats in local election offices scan voter lists for registered voters who rarely vote. They feed this information to others who submit bogus mail in absentee ballots in those names. They send them in early because the first ballot submitted is assumed to be the legitimate ballot. Any subsequent ballots are treated as errors or possible fraudulent ballots. Conflicts or duplicates are supposedly resolved after the election, but usually the same people who perpetrate the scam are the people assigned to clear up ballot issues.

In our case all the local officials were democrats and every person from the election office we spoke with was a democrat. They were rude, abusive and irritated that we persisted in demanding my sis-in-law be allowed to vote. They threatened to have her arrested if she did not leave the polling place. That is when we called the republican party for assistance.


45 posted on 10/10/2011 3:17:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama's secret: "Once you learn to fake sincerity you've got it made")
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To: HiJinx
Of course the Republicans passing these laws never acknowledge their real purpose, which is to turn away from the polls people who are more likely to vote Democratic, particularly the young, the poor, the elderly and minorities. They insist that laws requiring government identification cards to vote are only to protect the sanctity of the ballot from unscrupulous voters. Cutting back on early voting, which has been popular among working people who often cannot afford to take off from their jobs on Election Day, will save money, they claim.

I just emailed the Times telling them the poor and elderly should already have photo ID. If not, that could be why we have high fraud in Medicaid and Medicare.

47 posted on 10/10/2011 9:07:43 PM PDT by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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They whine and whine and whine, even after Crawford v. Marion County Election Board settled the issue.
48 posted on 10/13/2011 7:42:35 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy (In the final analysis the trouble with Muslim democracy is the Muslims.)
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