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Dodge to stop making the Grand Caravan even though it's their best selling vehicle
Daily Mail ^ | 10/10/11 | Daily Mail Reporter

Posted on 10/10/2011 6:00:11 PM PDT by Teflonic

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To: Verginius Rufus

73 Plymouth Duster (that I used to drive) in my garage, waiting for re$toration. It runs, but needs a little body work. Interior is new. And has every factory option.


51 posted on 10/10/2011 7:54:55 PM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: bicyclerepair
Chrysler-Fiat bought the Chevy Volt from Government Motors to replace the Dodge Grand Caravan and Avenger. Another example of crony capitalism brought to you by Commandante Zer0.
52 posted on 10/10/2011 8:01:42 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: Teflonic

it’s a piece of junk, good riddance

runs great for about 6 months, then...odd noises. that the mechanics can’t find. then more odd noises. then recall notices on various parts, 2 or 3 a year

traded it and a big wad of cash for a mercedes; happy now


53 posted on 10/10/2011 8:03:26 PM PDT by CzarChasm (My opinion. No charge.)
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To: sushiman
Shoulda bought a Cuda or Challenger !

In 1970 I was older than you. Hmmm... guess that means I still am.. Anyway, was looking at a Hemi Cuda then but the finances said no to a new car. Ended up with a used '64 GTO... Sure miss those old real muscle cars...

And now we have such great choices as the Dolt, er, Volt and other great 'cars' from Government Motors and some Italian company pretender.. I was never a Ford person, but if I am to buy and American car now, it would be a Ford since they didn't take any of my tax money as a political payoff...

Sigh.

54 posted on 10/10/2011 8:18:48 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: Afterguard

FIAT = Fix It Again, Tony


55 posted on 10/10/2011 8:19:18 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Obama inherited a mild recession from George W. Bush and turned it into a major depression.)
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To: Teflonic

I own an 02 that I inherited from my Dad. I was skeptical at first, having been a small car guy. While a bit of a gas hog, is has been a reliable workhorse. The ride and handling are solid, particularly here in snowy upstate NY. I would another one when the time comes. I’d be sorry to see the model go, but maybe Corporate is more clever than we think. A second Obama term would likely mean $8/gal. gas. Who’ll be able to afford to drive a Grand Caravan?


56 posted on 10/10/2011 8:30:36 PM PDT by Wheelman81
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To: Teflonic

Don’t forget, we’re talking about a company run by a government that thinks it’s a great idea to give $500 million to another company which makes solar panels for $6 and can only sell them for $3.

It would be hilarious if it weren’t so tragic.


57 posted on 10/10/2011 9:15:15 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: Teflonic
My first car. As soon as I got it, I ripped out the bench seats and put an old sofa in it. I can still see my dad shaking his head....
58 posted on 10/10/2011 9:40:29 PM PDT by onona (At the end of your life, you will be judged on love.)
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To: Teflonic
2013 will be the last year the Caravan is sold, despite the fact it is currently the best selling Dodge vehicle on the market.

Gee, why can't Chrysler/Dodge/Fiat make a profit? Was this a command from the White Hut?

59 posted on 10/11/2011 3:26:11 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Best-selling model? Kill it.

reminds me of the brilliant marketing tactic used in the 80's when Coke came out with "New Coke".

60 posted on 10/11/2011 3:34:29 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Teflonic

Folks, please stop overreacting to this.

All this happens to be about is branding and marketing. They want Dodge to be seen as 1.) the performance brand (hence the Charger, Challenger, etc) and 2.) the truck brand (hence the Ram, etc).

A minivan doesn’t “fit” with those two “Dodge” images. So they’re going to consolidate the minivan line under Chrysler. Aren’t both brands produced on the same assembly lines anyways?

I’d guess that they’ll now offer more options for the minivans under the Chrysler brand to fill any “gaps” lost by taking the Dodge “brand” away.

I recall a few years back when people here were upset about how Ford was going to get rid of the “Excursion” (under the auspices of it not being “green” enough). Turns out all that Ford did was get rid of the Excursion name and start selling pretty much the same vehicle as the Ford “Expedition XL”.


61 posted on 10/11/2011 4:04:33 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: Teflonic
since the government bailout they have decided to pour all their R&D into developing a solar-powered subway. It's green and public transit, so what could go wrong?
62 posted on 10/11/2011 4:13:18 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: sushiman
I prefer the Plymouth version:


63 posted on 10/11/2011 4:15:08 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Cain/Rubio?)
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To: ZinGirl
reminds me of the brilliant marketing tactic used in the 80's when Coke came out with "New Coke".

What are you talking about? That was pure genius.

Despite the Pepsi Challenge demonstrating that most people can't tell the difference, it was assumed at the time, according to trends, that the population preferred a sweeter cola - this begat Coca Cola's change to "New Coke"

According to Malcomb Gladwell's book "Blink", there were factors other than taste that influenced choices, and when labels were added, preferences changed from one brand to the other. So basically, branding was everything.

When Coca Cola released "New Coke", it didn't matter if the drink tasted like an heavenly elixir or of vomit the point being is that it drummed up huge amounts of interest and free advertising. As they used to say in politics, "I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right."

So many new customers bought New Coke to try it out, and there were New Coke Parties as the roll-out wasn't in all markets at once, and importing the drink made the host look hip and cool.

In the meantime, many people who were resistant to change bought up the old stock at whatever price it could be obtained and a black market and scalping took place as people were hoarding the original formula. This was great for Coca Cola as people were buying at full price the New Coke, and were quickly burning through the inventory of the original formula.

There is a shelf life to any cola soft drink, so those who were hoarding the product hoping to sell it years later like rare baseball cards discovered that unlike good wine, Coca Cola doesn't age well in storage - not that people were actually constructing the equivalent of wine coolers to store the vintage stuff....

Interestingly, just as the expiration date of the original formula cola was reached, it was discovered by marketing that New Coke just wasn't selling its taste equivalent Pepsi, and so they decided to restore the formula but added a bit of marketing genius - prefix the same old soda with the word "Classic".

They never could have done that without coming out with that dreck New Coke, but now they upgraded the name and made a hundred year old product appear both fresh and original by simply changing the packaging.

Like babies who have had their favorite toy, or addicts who have had their favorite drug taken from them, when the opportunity for getting it back appears, they grab as much as they can in the odd expectation that it might be taken away again. Again, the bottlers were working overtime to produce the "classic" version while a new batch of "scalpers" were planning on cashing in on profiting on selling the equivalent of the Inverted Jenny stamp.

During this whole "fiasco", Coca Cola was receiving all kinds of free publicity, news coverage and open debate. This is called a "Win".

64 posted on 10/11/2011 5:03:09 AM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: The Theophilus
What are you talking about? That was pure genius.

you can say that because Coke survived.

they could have just as easily tanked.

they took a name which was synonymous with the word 'soda' and said, "hey! I know! we've been around for 100 years! We are virtually synonymous with the word SODA! Everyone knows us! What should we do next? Change the formula! PURE GENIUS!"

pure genius? your opinion. hindsight is always 20/20.

65 posted on 10/11/2011 7:12:52 AM PDT by ZinGirl
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To: Teflonic

I had 3 Caravans during my lacrosse, swim team, field hockey, basketball dad days. Great cars (though not cool), and the only thing that went were the trannies (at around 85,000 miles). RIP.


66 posted on 10/11/2011 7:17:29 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Austrian achievement: convincing world that Hitler was German and Beethoven Austrian)
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To: Teflonic

This reminds me ofthe cancelling the iconic Grand Prix and then Pontiac Division itself! It’s as stupid as letting Saturn fall by the wayside. Stupid enough to be from the UAW and Obama.


67 posted on 10/11/2011 7:25:38 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: decimon
Nope. The government would only be interested in K-cars from Chrysler.

Or, maybe L-cars.

I would have no interest in any Chrysler product. Once owned a 64 Dodge. What a pile of crap!

Had a strong engine, if you could get it started, but while my wife was driving it in city traffic in Wichita, KS, the steering box broke off the frame, and she could not control the car's direction. Was a rather traumatic crash for her.

If that happened today, perhaps I could acquire millions of y'all's tax dollars. Damn! Missed it by that much!

68 posted on 10/12/2011 10:17:08 PM PDT by tdscpa
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To: Teflonic
Probably a White Hut team working feverishly trying to kill off the Dodge Ram truck.
69 posted on 10/12/2011 10:22:50 PM PDT by The Cajun (Palin, Free Republic, Mark Levin, Rush, Hannity......Nuff said.)
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To: Teflonic

Drop your #1 selling item? Must be Obama University MBA people running that place. But it is just part of the stupid business decisions I’ve seen all over. Like Netflix deciding to change their name after 15 years and hundreds of millions in promotion and advertising. Or giving $500 million to a solar panel start up that made no new innovations in a market with over a dozen competitors already in the business losing money hand over fist.

What is going on out there? People who should know better are acting desperate when they need not be. It is nonsensical. There is a real fear out there making people crazy. Or else perhaps there are people in high places who simply rose up through the ranks up to their level of incompetence.


70 posted on 10/13/2011 1:46:54 AM PDT by monkeyshine
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