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The Black American Male
Warrior Nurse

Posted on 10/11/2011 1:31:01 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse

The rise of Herman Cain speaks volumes about America


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: blackmales; cain2012; chat; males; success; vanity
The rise of Herman Cain Speaks volumes about the greatness of America. As the social discorse continues to grow in America I would like to shed some light on another now nameless victim in the culture wars. This victim is the black male head of household and father figure (Herman Cain notwithstanding).

As a black man myself the first rung of the ladder is individual responsiblity and accountability for ones self and actions. When I was watching Larry O'Donnell try to impune Herman Cain for not marching during the Civil Right marches. One of Mr. Cain response was extremely reavling about Mr Cain's upbringing and his relationship with his father. Mr. Cain's response to that obtuse question was that his father told him to "stay out of trouble." Well as a man that was raised by a great father stay out trouble meant just that. There were no excuses or grey areas it was the law of the Cain and my household. A line that dare not be crossed without the severest of consequences. His word was law period. That concept escaped Mr. O'Donnell and many liberals today. This is not to say that the black women was not the glue that held the home together but the man was the foundation or rock for the glue to bind to.

When I look at black men today, I am appalled at how we are defined by the media. Furthermore I am appalled that we have let ourselves fall into a victim status and embodying a self fulfilling prophecy. Larry Elder called this type of behavior Poverty Pimps and Brood-Mares. I see the female dominated homes of the black community is a severe and ongoing problem along with the femanization of boys. I also have to point out that black women are aborting their babies at numbers that would make the eugenist Margaret Sanger proud.

Abortion creates a dearth of males in the black community then breeds desparation on black women seeking to "find a good black man." This futher causes emnity between the man and woman because as a boy that young man didn't have a father to model behavior as well as a man to teach the boy how to become one. On the flip side the girl did not witness the loving caring and nurting between her mother and father. That would have shown her that love is not in how many men you sleep with and that being chaste is a good thing. Remember abstinance and monogomy work every time they is tried.

The epidemic of single motherhood has created a class of bitter black women that are hurt and lash out because they feel like they have been treated unfairly. The bottom line up front (BLUF) is that their own decision making and lack of critical thinking are the problem in the first place, BLUF if you are having sex with a man that can't afford to raise the offspring that is produced. That woman has reduced herself to nothing more than a sperm recepticle. All the name calling and liberal stigmatizing can't change the fact that the behavior of the indivdual is to blame. A rich white slut (Paris Hilton, Brittney Spears) is no different than a poor black one money notwithstanding. Let the femanazi's howl and caterwual over that one.

Here is where the welfare state has subjugated black males to second class citizenship. By providing money and resources that could otherwise be a good paying job for a man. The government imprisons single parent women to the "beneficent federal and state government." The government is playing the role of "father," there should not be an incentive to have more children to get more money from the taxpayers. I cringe at that thought of a woman like Nadya Suleman the "Octomom" has 14 kids, no father, job or visible means of support is being funded by Mr. and Mrs. Taxpayer. What is wrong with that picture?

The influence of the Hip Hop culture on the black community is extremely prevalent. Every time Sean Combs wears his 'vote or die' shirt during election time I marvel at his ignorance. He may know the music business and may even be a mogul but he doesn't know jack about the history behind that slogan. It was a slogan of that Democratic front group the Klu Klux Klan used in the South to intimdate blacks to vote for Democrats. I recently heard a talking head say that rap music was like Shakesphere. Someone get me a bucket so I can vomit in it. Can you imagine the musing of Eminem as compared to Shylock in the Merchant of Venice or how about Lady Ga Ga as Desdemona in Othello give me a break. Those two are just cash cows for the record companies that produce them. Imagine if the hip-hop community en masse said pull up your pants quit making babies out of wedlock that you can't pay for and educate yourselves in Math, Science. A person should not go 100 grand in debt for a degree in history because when you graduate you will not have a job. Where as someone that is an electrical engineer for example is most likely to walk into a good paying job even in this economy. College is not for everyone it is time people realize that learning a trade like plumbing, HVAC, masonry, or electrician they are always working. You know how much it costs for a plumber to The bible tells us that a man must work by the sweat of his brow Gen 3:19. Well if its good enough for Adam then its good enough for me.

1 posted on 10/11/2011 1:31:04 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse
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To: Warrior Nurse

Thank you WN.


2 posted on 10/11/2011 2:28:06 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: Warrior Nurse
Good read.
Keep bangin and setting the pace.
3 posted on 10/11/2011 2:42:39 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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To: Warrior Nurse

Excellent.


4 posted on 10/11/2011 2:55:50 AM PDT by Egon (The difference between Theory and Practice: In Theory, there is no difference.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

I told my boys when they were growing up, get a marketable skill. Plumbers and heating and cooling is not dependent on the economy. There are many trades that can earn a good living and they don’t need a 4 yr. degree and thousands in student debt. 2 year collages do it well....A degree in womens studies is a dead end, just as degree’s in social studies...they contribute nothing to society and who would hire them....How about a great car mechanic. I had a friend that followed her mechanic whenever he changed jobs. He was too good to lose track of.


5 posted on 10/11/2011 2:59:26 AM PDT by goat granny
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To: Warrior Nurse

Herman Cain if nothing else will offer an example to young black boys, one they don’t see often. When you put his story up against the presidents you can see what a real man is.


6 posted on 10/11/2011 3:00:20 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Honkies for Herman......Crackers for Cain)
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To: Warrior Nurse
Many people have remarked on the interview linked below.

The man Rick Perry appointed Texas Chief Justice Wallace Jefferson -- a good example of the caliber and character of leaders Gov. Perry surrounds himself with – unlike Obama who appoints and defends appointments such as U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

7 posted on 10/11/2011 3:05:09 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Warrior Nurse
Herman Cain grew up in Atlanta, Georgia with loving parents and little else. His father worked three jobs—as a janitor, a barber and a chauffeur—and his mother was a domestic worker. Even though these jobs required hard work and little glamour, his parents knew this life was better than the dirt farms upon which they grew up. They also knew that this hard work was the key to achieving their American Dreams.

Herman’s parents had two dreams. First, they wanted to own their own house. Secondly, they wanted both of their children to graduate from college. During the segregation era in the Deep South, these aspirations might have seemed lofty, but they knew that if they kept their faith in God, faith in themselves and faith in the greatest country on the Earth, they could achieve.

The first dream was realized in a modest brick house on Albert Street in Atlanta, Georgia. After years of saving from his many jobs, Herman’s father surprised the whole family, even his wife, by purchasing a home for their family. The second dream was realized when Herman graduated from Morehouse College with a degree in mathematics in 1967. His brother, Thurman, would go on to graduate from Morris Brown College.

Inspired by the work ethic and character of his parents, Herman continued his education by earning his Master’s degree in computer science from Purdue University while working full-time developing fire control systems for ships and fighter planes for the Department of the Navy. Though Herman enjoyed using his talents as a civilian employee for the Navy, he gravitated towards the culture of business.

Herman returned to his home of Atlanta to begin working as a computer systems analyst for the Coca-Cola Company. After considerable success at Coca-Cola, he moved to the Pillsbury Company. Within a short period of time, Herman rose to position of Vice President. Although the comforts of a corner office on the 31st floor of a majestic corporate building seemed satisfying, Herman knew that he needed a challenge.

He became the regional vice president of Pillsbury’s Burger King division. This meant starting from the “ground up,” dodging grease fires and broiling hamburgers. Herman was assigned to lead a low performing region of 450 of their restaurants. Within three years, it became the best performing region in the company.

Energized by overcoming the many obstacles of his job at Burger King, Herman took on the biggest challenge of his career. He accepted the call to become the President and CEO of Godfather’s Pizza, a company that was teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. In just 14 months, Herman returned Godfather’s to profitability and he led his management team to a buyout of the company.

His professional successes garnered the respect and admiration of industry peers who named him the President of the National Restaurant Association. Under Herman’s administration, the group grew significantly and began to lobby for the interests of America’s restaurateurs and small business owners.

In 1994, as head of the National Restaurant Association, he had the opportunity to speak with President Clinton during a nationally televised town hall meeting. Here, Herman challenged the President regarding the impact on businesses if his health care overhaul proposal were passed. President Clinton attempted to assure him and the millions of viewers watching at home that his legislation would not harm American business owners and their employees.

Herman was skeptical. “Quite honestly Mr. President, your calculations are incorrect,” he said. “In the competitive marketplace, it simply doesn’t work that way.” His words echoed across America, and Newsweek named Herman Cain the primary saboteur of Hillarycare.

Through these and other appearances on behalf of the National Restaurant Association, Herman began working with business leaders across all sectors of the American economy. This led to his acceptance of a position on the Board of Directors of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, and he was subsequently elected their chairman. In this role, he analyzed economic conditions in the region and notified the Federal Reserve of how their policies should respond.

Most recently, he hosted a radio talk show, “The Herman Cain Show,” on Atlanta’s WSB 750 AM/ 95.5 FM. He serves as a regular contributor on several broadcast networks and as a keynote speaker at conferences and events around the nation.

Despite the many professional commitments of his life, Herman continues to enjoy most the time spent with family and friends. As his children got married and had their own children, he knew that he had an extraordinary obligation to do what he could to make this a safe and prosperous nation for them. The paramount joys in his life are his wife, Gloria, his children and his grandchildren.

Now I highlighted and underline Herman's working at the Fed to meet a promise that I made to many of the Paulist on FR. Herman was not a member of the Board of Governors which sets monetary policy. The Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City is more or less a bank for banks and what they do is provide financial services to depository institutions including banks, credit unions, and savings and loans, much like those that banks provide for their customers. These services include collecting checks, electronically transferring funds, and distributing and receiving cash and coin.

I know that sounds so very ominous.

8 posted on 10/11/2011 3:16:23 AM PDT by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Warrior Nurse

Cain’s success so far has made me think. If he is elected will Democrats still call all criticism of him (a black man) racist?


9 posted on 10/11/2011 3:53:26 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink)
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To: Kartographer

Learning a trade will get you a job.........

There was a time in my not so interesting life when I did personnel recruting (a “head hunter”). Often, it was difficult to find jobs for individuals with a simple, non-technical college degree. BUT, those who had technical training we easy to place in good paying positions.

My advise to any college student is to learn a markable skill and you won’t have a problem finding work.


10 posted on 10/11/2011 3:55:56 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Progov

That should read “marketable skill”, not markable skill.

I’m up a bit early today and the fingers are not awake yet..


11 posted on 10/11/2011 4:11:13 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Warrior Nurse

Great post. These truth need to be repeated loud and often.


12 posted on 10/11/2011 4:15:15 AM PDT by semaj
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To: Warrior Nurse
That is a great read, Thanks.
I highly recommend to anyone wanting to learn the truth about Black Americans in American History and Politics is to pick up a copy of this book:

“Setting the record straight: American history in Black & White” by David Barton.

Most Blacks today know nothing about their history earlier than MLK and Malcom X. If they did none of them would be Democrat.

The First Blacks In Congress Were All Republicans

United States Senate
Hiram Rhodes Revels (1822-1901); Republican – Mississippi; 1870-1871
Blanche Bruce (1841-1898); Republican – Mississippi; 1875-1881

House of Representatives
John Willis Menard (1838-1893); Republican - Louisiana; 1868
Joseph Rainey (1832-1887); Republican - South Carolina; 1870-1879
Jefferson F. Long (1836-1901); Republican – Georgia; 1870-1871
Robert C. De Large (1842-1874); Republican - South Carolina; 1871-1873
Robert B. Elliott (1842-1884); Republican - South Carolina; 1871-1874
Benjamin S. Turner (1825-1894); Republican – Alabama; 1871-1873
Josiah T. Walls (1842-1905); Republican – Florida; 1871-1873, 1873-1875, 1875-1876
Richard H. Cain (1825-1887); Republican - South Carolina; 1873-1875, 1877-1879
John R. Lynch (1847-1939); Republican – Mississippi; 1873-1877, 1882-1883
James T. Rapier (1837-1883); Republican – Alabama; 1873-1875
Alonzo J. Ransier (1834-1882); Republican - South Carolina; 1873-1875
Jeremiah Haralson (1846-1916); Republican - Alabama; 1875-1877
John Adams Hyman (1840-1891); Republican - North Carolina; 1875-1877
Charles E. Nash (1844-1913); Republican – Louisiana; 1875-1877
Robert Smalls (1839-1915); Republican - South Carolina; 1875-1879, 1882-1883, 1884-1887
James E. O’Hara (1844-1905); Republican - North Carolina; 1883-1887
Henry P. Cheatham (1857-1935); Republican - North Carolina; 1889-1893
John Mercer Langston (1829-1897); Republican – Virginia; 1890-1891
Thomas E. Miller(1849-193); Republican - South Carolina; 1890-1891
George W. Murray (1853-1926); Republican - South Carolina; 1893-1895, 1896-1897
George Henry White (1852-1918); Republican - North Carolina; 1897-1901

The Democrats did not elect their first black American to the U.S. House until 1935, and he was from the North. The Southern Democrats waited until 1973. The first Black Senator was not elected until 1993.

13 posted on 10/11/2011 4:58:06 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Warrior Nurse

ENCORE, ENCORE, ENCORE!!!


14 posted on 10/11/2011 5:03:00 AM PDT by all the best
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To: NavyCanDo
You forgot about P.B.S. Pinchback Republican Governor of Louisiana
15 posted on 10/11/2011 5:35:43 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Warrior Nurse

Seems to me there are plenty of people on the Right who want to prove they aren’t racists by supporting Cain. So his rise is because he’s black and for no other reason. Yet he played the race card against Perry, so I’ll never trust Cain any more than I trust people on the Left who always use race, class and gender to browbeat people into going along with their agenda.


16 posted on 10/11/2011 6:07:22 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Recon Dad
"When you put his story up against the presidents you can see what a real man is."

Exactly what M.L. King meant when he said, and I'm paraphrasing, "...Judged not by the color of their skin but by the content of their character..."

17 posted on 10/11/2011 6:18:39 AM PDT by semaj
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To: Warrior Nurse
"The influence of the Hip Hop culture on the black community is extremely prevalent."

Nicely done -- and well worth saying!

Much of the difference involves cultural choices.

Does anyone expect Cain to be driving a car with wheels that cost more than the vehicle, and with (over) powered subwoofers thumping out mindless "[c]RAP" that nearly bounces the wheels off the pavement?

Wonder where Cain's values "missed out on" all of that...?

18 posted on 10/11/2011 6:22:35 AM PDT by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias...)
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To: Wolfstar

“Yet he played the race card against Perry”

Is that anything like Perry playing (or haveing someone play) the “religion card” against Romney? Maybe a distraction from his love of ILLEGALS?


19 posted on 10/11/2011 6:23:35 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Wolfstar
"Seems to me there are plenty of people on the Right who want to prove they aren’t racists by supporting Cain. So his rise is because he’s black and for no other reason. Yet he played the race card against Perry, so I’ll never trust Cain any more than I trust people on the Left who always use race, class and gender to browbeat people into going along with their agenda."

Is someone cooking cabbage around here?

20 posted on 10/11/2011 6:29:44 AM PDT by semaj
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To: Wolfstar
So his rise is because he’s black and for no other reason.

I don't agree with that, he answered a question and I didn't like the answer he gave myself but I think the questioner was wanted him to say something reminiscent of what Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson would say. I think he said it was inappropriate. I like him b/c of his position on the issues. If his skin was pink would you be for him. He is the only conservative in the race and has a long track record of solving problems. Like myself he is a conservative that happens to be black. Even Reagan was not a perfect candidate no one is. I have had my fill of milquetoast establishment and career republicans. Cain has put forth a plan and has handle himself well in Media e.g. PMSNBC's Larry O'Donnell.

21 posted on 10/11/2011 6:42:32 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: freeangel
Is that anything like Perry playing (or haveing someone play) the “religion card” against Romney?

Oh please. FR is filled with people who don't support Romney because he's a Mormon. I've read countless posts about it here over the last few years. It is absolute stone cold truth that many on the religious Right don't support Romney for that reason.

And before the anti-Romney mods jump on me for this post, I am not for him. Not for anyone at this point. I trust NO politicians. Period. Just stating the truth here.

22 posted on 10/11/2011 6:45:22 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: semaj
Please provide evidence that he played the so-called "Race Card" against Perry. What are you referring to? Who do you support? Is someone cooking cabbage around here?

What is this? Time to play 20 questions? You know Google? Go look it up yourself if you want to know when and how Cain played the race card against Perry. As for what's cooking, only thing I smell is hypocrisy.

23 posted on 10/11/2011 6:50:07 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Wolfstar

“I trust NO politicians”

And that IS the point. Cain is an honest man from outside DC—not a politician(or even a “community organizer).


24 posted on 10/11/2011 6:50:58 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Warrior Nurse
If his skin was pink would you be for him.

No.

I trust no politicians. Period. Herman Cain is no exception. My comment pertained to the fact that many on the Right are just as eager to prove they aren't racists as are people on the Left. So they support Cain for that reason. Is he a conservative? Who knows. He mouths conservative positions, but only time will tell if he's genuine or not.

25 posted on 10/11/2011 6:56:23 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Wolfstar
So let me get this straight. You post baseless accusations with no reference material to back them up and expect to be taken seriously? Alrighty then.
26 posted on 10/11/2011 6:56:41 AM PDT by semaj
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To: freeangel
Cain is an honest man

Glad I have your word for that. /s

27 posted on 10/11/2011 6:58:17 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Warrior Nurse

Thank you for taking the time to write and post this.


28 posted on 10/11/2011 6:59:38 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: semaj
So let me get this straight. You post baseless accusations with no reference material to back them up

When Cain took after Perry on racial grounds, it was a big news story. If you missed it, that's your problem, not mine. Like I said, go look it up yourself. It's not a baseless accusation. It's straight from recent news and was discussed here on FR on multiple threads.

29 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:23 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Wolfstar
I don't trust politicians either. The politician right or wrong have me here in Afghanistan. At least Cain has not made a career out of politics, he is closer to what the founders have envisioned. It is always who is next in line with the republicans. So who do you support and who do you think is stating the most conservative position.
30 posted on 10/11/2011 7:27:34 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Taxman; nutmeg; NautiNurse; Kaslin; WVNan

PING


31 posted on 10/11/2011 9:13:56 AM PDT by Warrior Nurse (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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To: Wolfstar
Seems to me there are plenty of people on the Right who want to prove they aren’t racists by supporting Cain. So his rise is because he’s black and for no other reason.

Therein lies the deep and dark crux of your problem. I will vote for Cain precisely because he isn't a career politician, he is a remarkably brilliant, self-made successful businessman specializing in turnaround strategies. Herman Cain is an excellent communicator. The color of Mr. Cain's skin is not part of the decision matrix.

32 posted on 10/11/2011 9:42:45 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Rick Perry's 2012 campaign is Fred Thompson v2.0)
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To: Warrior Nurse

I see that the comments on this thread have gotten off track. I just want to add to what you wrote about the family. In the field of sociology there have been many studies about the role of mothers and fathers. There is much evidence that the father is literally the most important figure in a child’s life. Without the father there is no “anchor” for a child. The father is the one who sets the values and principles by which a child lives and learns. Mother is the nurturer and psychological steering wheel. In the black community the anchors are no longer there. So the youngsters are adrift with nothing to give them a firm foundation. Mothers are not equipped to be that anchor. She is too busy with keeping everybody fed, clothed, etc.

Woman can do a lot of things, but she can’t take the place of a father, no matter how much she loves and cares for her children.


33 posted on 10/11/2011 2:48:35 PM PDT by WVNan (!)
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To: WVNan

Well said.


34 posted on 10/11/2011 2:49:46 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: NautiNurse
Therein lies the deep and dark crux of your problem.

There is nothing deep and dark about what I posted, and I have no problem. You quoted what I said apparently without understanding it. I believe you saw "racism" where there was nothing but truth.

As a reminder, here's what I posted:

Seems to me there are plenty of people on the Right who want to prove they aren’t racists by supporting Cain. So his rise is because he’s black and for no other reason.

The operative word is PLENTY. Not all, but plenty. And the operative action is "want to prove." That's the truth. There are many people on the Right who are just as eager, if not more so, to prove they aren't racists. So they flock to someone like Herman Cain. Many of them are the same people who rabidly supported the seriously flawed Sarah Palin, so I question their judgement right off the bat.

As for Cain, is he really what he presents himself to be politically, or is he a Trojan horse? Time will tell. But I jump on NO bandwagon. I take my time in making decisions about who I'll support in elections, because not all, but most politicians aren't -- to borrow an old phrase -- worth a warm bucket of spit.

35 posted on 10/12/2011 7:20:04 AM PDT by Wolfstar ("If you would win a man to your cause, first convince him that you are his friend." Abraham Lincoln)
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