Skip to comments.Do Cain's opponents believe that he's a legit threat?
Posted on 10/11/2011 10:15:03 AM PDT by DRey
One of the things to watch for in tonights GOP debate is how Herman Cain is treated by his fellow candidates. Is he perceived as a threat? Do they take his chances seriously?
Based on history, that kind of performance ought to make Cain a target in the debate, because thats what happens to top-tier candidates. When Rick Perry entered the race and seemed a real threat, Romney wasted no time attacking him, with Michele Bachmann gleefully joining in. Perry hasnt been the same since.
So if Romney, Perry and Bachmann do perceive Cain as a legitimate threat to win the nomination, theyll begin to question him and his policies directly. Call it a sign of respect. Maybe theyll ask him why, in 2008, he strongly backed the TARP bailout and treated opponents with such condescension, attacking them as free market purists (who) want you to believe that this is the end of capitalism as we know it. Maybe theyll press him on why he dismissed an audit of the Federal Reserve, saying those who thought an audit necessary just didnt know enough about the Fed. (They also ought to challenge him on the fact that his 9-9-9 plan would significantly raise taxes on the poor and middle class, but this being a Republican debate, that probably wont happen.)
On the other hand, if they continue to treat Cain with kid gloves, preferring to direct their fire elsewhere, that will say a lot as well.
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Chris Christie is being pulled out of storage to endorse Mitt Romney.
Considering how everyone turned on Perry when he as flying high I expect the same will happen to Cain. Bachmann, Santorum, Huntsman, and Perry all have to climb over Cain to get to Romney. Ron Paul will tear into him on principle. As for Gingrich, who knows what he will do.
They must. They just got Christie to endorse Romney!
Methinks the Northeast Rino contingent is skeeered. The money machine is not going to pick our candidate this time.
Heck, I’d LOVE to hear Cain answer those questions. He’s my guy so far, and I firmly believe in letting the chips fall where they may. If they ask him, he may be able to articulate exactly why he took the stand he did, removing all doubt to the listener, regarding whether or not they should support him.
Regarding the 999, I generally support it and understood right up front that it was a tax increase especially to the poor. I have no problem with that. The flatter the tax, the better.
Romney said yesterday New Hampshire should vote for him or Cain. He knows Cain is no threat (no funding or infrastructure to run a presidential campaign) and only pulls support from real conservative contenders. No one is going to attack Cain. His poll numbers aren’t going to hold.
Do Cain’s opponents believe that he’s a legit threat?
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Well with as many articles as you continue to post here from leftist sources, I would say yes.
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Why are they even in this debate?
“Perry knows a vote for Cain is a vote for Romney.”
Then Perry is a bigger idiot than he sounded like at the last debate.
born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!
Storage? Does he sit on an oversized closet shelf in Trenton?
Considering how everyone turned on Perry when he as flying high I expect the same will happen to Cain.
I dunno, Cain doesn’t seem the type to store both of his feet in his mouth only removing them to visciously attack the very people from whom he needs votes and money.
Cain has already answered these questions in other interviews, although if they ask, voters will know more about him and the media will have less of a chance to take him down on those issues.
Your graph only proves my point.
You’re losing it, DRey.
If other GOP candidates attack Herman Cain tonight, it will reflect badly on them, not on Mr. Cain, who would conduct himself as the strong gentleman he is!
IF perry attacks Cain, perry is toast.
Ok - using Chris Christie as proxy moxie.
Yeah, yeah. “Perry is toast.” “Perry is toast.” Keep saying that. Maybe one day it will come true.
I take it you are not an analyst.
Actually, a vote for Perry who is dead candidate walking is a vote for Romney.
It already came true. And it is Perry who toastified himself.
You have not been following the threads, have you? Romney said last night people should vote for him or Cain, either one. Romney and Cain are in this together.
No, they don’t think Cain is a threat.
IMHO, both Perry and Romney believe they can beat Cain head-to-head in a primary, so you’ll see them trying to knock each other out. That would account for Romney’s attacks on Perry and vote for me or Cain speech (an attempt to draw voters off Perry and onto Cain—for now), and Perry’s new attack ad that goes after Romney on RomneyCare.
Conventional wisdom would say they’re both right. Both Perry and Romney should be able to overwhelm Cain with money in any head-to-head primary race.
There are just no voters left who don’t see the tag team of Romney and Cain, and there new found mutual admiration society, formed publicaly to issue the final blow to kill off the only threat left to Romney, Rick Perry. Wake up and smell the coffee. What you seem to think you see is chess. Cain is not ever going to be president, nor win the nomination, but is smart enough to recognize he has a chance to be VP to Romney. Bank that. Do you not find it even slightly curious that Cain would buddy up with a socialist to carpet bomb the only guy with the goods? Come on, rookie. Watch Romney drop Cain like a branding iron after the nomination. Yes, Rick has to take it to Romney and the whole line up tonight and through out the month, because it’s all going down this month.
LOL. A vote for Cain is a vote Perry will not get, and Perry desperately needs votes as his numbers nosedive in poll after poll. The more people see of Perry, the less support he has. The more people see of Cain, the more support he has. Perry has no way of controlling this.
Santorum has already started his attack on Cain, but I’m not sure it will be effective. “I have a 0-0-0 plan” comes across as cheap satire. I’m not sure it was that effective for him.
“There are just no voters left who dont see the tag team of Romney and Cain”
Really? You’ve talked to them all? Perhaps you have a poll to back up your wild assertion?
No? Color me shocked./s
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Yes, it sure does. Romney can’t beat Perry, but he can beat Cain.
Santorum as well. Yes, only representing about 3-4%, but enough to make a difference.
Romney has a chunk of moderate Republican support and he will probably get some liberal/moderate independent vote in a general election. Perry has almost no Republican support and would get no liberal/moderate independent vote in a general election.
Anyone voting for Perry really wants four more years of Obama.
The candidates are watching the clock. When the clock strikes the hour of stride, Perry will elect to be Perry and will come after Romney, Cain and anybody else standing with these two socialists. He has to. Maybe that will be tonight. They are all a mirage. You don’t tag team with Romney, as Cain is publically doing, who launched the pattern for socialism used by Obama for Obamacare because you give a damn about the country. You pal around with Romney because there is something in it for you, and you tag team with Romney the socialist against Perry because you know how things are going to go down. There are what five debates this month? We will know your nominee by September, unless in the course of 13 months he implodes at the wrong time.
It’s just a gut feeling, but I think Santorum will endorse one of the two establishment candidates (Perry or Romney), depending on who survives.
Santorum has never struck me as a guy that thinks too far outside the box. He’ll go with conventional wisdom.
What you just said is absolutely unfounded and ridiculous. Perry has a TON of Republican support — just not in the northeast where the RINOS roam. Perry is a viable candidate BECAUSE of all his support, plus his incredible ability to reach across to moderates and independents. Cain cannot beat Romney. He doesn’t have the infrastructure, Republican support, or funding. He’s a VP contender and a book salesman and Romney is using him for a Perry spoiler. The evidence is becoming overwhelming, and all the sudden.
Cain also has no Republican support. Who is backing him financially? Who is going to put big money on him, a guy with no experience? No one but the $20-$100 crowd. That won’t get him elected. The presidency is not an entry-level position. Cain may appeal to the purists who can’t stomach Perry, but Cain cannot beat either of them in a two-man race.
“The evidence is becoming overwhelming, and all the sudden.”
The same people who could not see that Palin was never going to run, are the same people who cannot get this concept, Guntor. You can’t fix stupid.
Let’s just step this up a notch. Wrapped with the flag around their head we have a cabal of so called conservatives on FR giving loft to Cain, a guy who smartly knows how this is all going down. Romney is no conservative. He is a socialist. It is not alright that Cain has elected to support, grin at, and pal up with Romney, who has patterned up the nation’s first foray into socialized healthcare, palled around with Kennedy, favored all RINOs, all the time, while his advisors assisted in how to implement Obamacare.
If I did for Romney what Cain is doing for Romney I would be kicked off FR.
“You cant fix stupid.”
“and all the sudden”
No wonder you think Perry is some kind of rhetorically gifted genius.
That was intentional, Guntor. Duh.