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69% Oppose In-State Tuition for Illegal Aliens (Even 54% of Hispanics are "Heartless")
Stand With Arizona ^ | 10-11-2011 | John Hill

Posted on 10/11/2011 10:48:43 AM PDT by montag813

by John Hill
Stand With Arizona

Party and ideological divisions are roiling America. Battles over the budget, taxes, jobs and energy have crippled Washington. But there is one issue that people across the political spectrum agree on: they oppose giving in-state tuition to illegal aliens.

According to the latest poll numbers, 69% of Americans oppose subsidizing those here illegally with in-state tuitions rates. 73% of Republicans oppose it - as one would expect. An even stronger 74% of Independents oppose it. But the same position resonates across ideological and ethnic lines too. 58% of Democrats oppose it too, as do an overwhelming 90% of Black Americans.

And contrary to media propaganda, even HISPANICS are "heartless", opposing in-state tuition for illegals, by 54%-28%.

So at tonight's debate, will "Ricky La Raza" Perry finally back down from the position that has derailed his campaign?

Or will he continue to stand with Gov. Jerry Brown - and against America?



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: afire; aliens; arizona; bachmann; debate; dreamact; heartless; hermancain; hispanics; illegal; illegalaliens; illegals; immigration; instate; jerrybrown; laraza; mittromney; oppose; rickperry; state; tuition

1 posted on 10/11/2011 10:48:47 AM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

Apparently 69% of my fellow Texans would prefer to support illegals on the dole as opposed to letting them pay their own way through college. Clearly 69% are...uninformed.


2 posted on 10/11/2011 10:51:22 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: montag813

“heartless” fiends! /sarc


3 posted on 10/11/2011 10:56:10 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: montag813

Every poll I’ve seen has shown that Americans are overwhelmingly against paying for, coddling, putting up with illegals. But clearly, it doesn’t matter what we want! The borders are still open; even when illegals do get deported, they waltz back in; and the demands for amnesty, in-state tuition, and other benefits for them do not let up. I feel like I and other Americans have been fighting, fighting, fighting for years, screaming and yelling, demanding, protesting, and voting in polls like this. We’ve made our wishes abundantly clear. But we just don’t matter anymore.


4 posted on 10/11/2011 11:07:45 AM PDT by Nea Wood (Silly liberal . . . paychecks are for workers!)
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To: montag813
tin man Pictures, Images and Photos

We are heartless!!

5 posted on 10/11/2011 11:13:42 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals Crazy!)
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To: montag813
"I no get polled!"


6 posted on 10/11/2011 11:29:32 AM PDT by AdamBomb
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To: DRey
No most of your fellow Texans are brighter than Rick Perry. They realize that if you take abat the so-called “untitlements,” illegals won't stick around.

So, now those opposing in-state tuition for illegal aliens are not only “heartless” but “uninformed.”

You should run as Perry's VP, Fangtirl. There aren't many who want to volunteer to be a kamakazie’s co-pilot.

7 posted on 10/11/2011 11:32:39 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: DRey
No most of your fellow Texans are brighter than Rick Perry. They realize that if you take abat the so-called “untitlements,” illegals won't stick around.

So, now those opposing in-state tuition for illegal aliens are not only “heartless” but “uninformed.”

You should run as Perry's VP, Fangtirl. There aren't many who want to volunteer to be a kamakazie’s co-pilot.

8 posted on 10/11/2011 11:33:04 AM PDT by bwc2221
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To: bwc2221

You live in a black and white world. Must suck to be you.


9 posted on 10/11/2011 11:34:32 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: bwc2221

Cain is the only suicide mission on the stage.


10 posted on 10/11/2011 11:35:32 AM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: DRey

Wrong, 69% of the citizens are willing to pay to round up the trash and send it home. Perry can go to the border and take the cuffs off.


11 posted on 10/11/2011 11:37:17 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrats.)
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To: DRey

That’s what a “REPUBLIC” is all about.

A nation of laws. Black and white.


12 posted on 10/11/2011 11:39:02 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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To: bwc2221
No most of your fellow Texans are brighter than Rick Perry. They realize that if you take abat the so-called “untitlements,” illegals won't stick around.

A vast majority of Texans evidently didn't have a problem with the Texas Legislature deciding Texas residency requirements for tax paying Texans to get in-state tuition in Texas schools. If another state doesn't want it, don't have it.

There's only 1 person in this race who actually has to deal with this problem, and it isn't Romney, Cain, Bachmann, Huntsman, Paul, Newt, or Santorum. It's pretty easy for them to sit there a bitch bitch bitch when they aren't running a massive border state, nor having to allocate limited resources via a balanced budget requirement, nor having to deal with the Federal government refusing to help/do its mandated job.

13 posted on 10/11/2011 12:02:33 PM PDT by GOPyouth ("We're buying shrimp, guys. Come on." - Dear Leader)
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To: DRey

“Apparently 69% of my fellow Texans would prefer to support illegals on the dole as opposed to letting them pay their own way through college. Clearly 69% are...uninformed.”

I don’t know one person, Texan or otherwise, who prefers to support illegals on the dole. I don’t even know any illegals on the dole. The Illegals in Texas colleges have graduated from Texas high schools. They have applied for citizenship. They have passed the same entrance exams that all kids take. They pay in state tuition. It’s not free. That said, I still hate that it happens. I still don’t think it’s fair. I’m anxious to see the plan to send a 20-year old kid with two jobs “back” to a country where he/she has never lived. We’re not uninformed. We don’t prefer special treatment for illegals. It has been a major problem for the past fifty years and no one has arrived at a solution. I don’t blame my governor for the problems in Arizona. If another state has the solution, step up to the plate.


14 posted on 10/11/2011 12:27:09 PM PDT by FryingPan101
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To: montag813

That legislation was passed in 2001. It was passed with a veto proof majority. This is nothing more than a hit piece on Governor Perry and it is insulting to call him LaRaza Rick.


16 posted on 10/11/2011 3:29:43 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: DRey

This was a TX issue and has nothing to do with the Federal responsibility of securing the borders. Clearly, Obama has not done his job. The states can NOT deport illegals, only the feds can do that. Clearly you are uninformed.


17 posted on 10/11/2011 3:31:53 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Nea Wood

Blame Obama. TX catches them and ICE releases them. TX has spent over 400 million dollars trying to police the border. Governor Perry has requested boots on the ground and aviation to be used on the 1200 mile border with Mexico. Obama has refused. I would suggest you blame him.


18 posted on 10/11/2011 3:34:41 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: Grey Eagle

How so? I agree with everything you just said. I was already aware of this. How am I uninformed?


19 posted on 10/11/2011 3:35:39 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: Grey Eagle

I didn’t suggest the states COULD deport. If they could, it would have happened by now. What’s your beef?


20 posted on 10/11/2011 3:36:26 PM PDT by DRey (Perry/Rubio 2012)
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To: bwc2221

I see you are here again doing your usual smears. You know nothing about TX or the people who live there.


21 posted on 10/11/2011 3:36:28 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: org.whodat

That is a federal responsibility. Why don’t you blame your boy Obama?


22 posted on 10/11/2011 3:38:25 PM PDT by Grey Eagle
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To: FryingPan101

I never had heard about this until the debates started. Perry’s “heartless” comment was just plain stupid. He should have explained why the decision was made to do this.

The biggest issue I have with it is that it discriminates against US citizens that live outside of Texas. Why on earth should a US citizen in Oklahoma have to pay more to go to a school in Texas than a child of illegal alien living in Texas? That just does not seem fair to me.


23 posted on 10/11/2011 3:44:23 PM PDT by Gabrial
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To: FryingPan101
The Illegals in Texas colleges have graduated from Texas high schools. They have applied for citizenship.

Foreign nationals (including high school students) residing in the U.S. illegally are generally NOT eligible to adjustment to legal permanent resident status, much less citizenship.

They're pinning their hopes on Perry sneaking into the White House and legalizing them all.

24 posted on 10/11/2011 3:49:50 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Grey Eagle
What individual in the federal government was holding the gun on perry to force him to sign and celebrate his illegal education benefits for illegals.

Was trying to get illegal in there one more time since perry has no concept of illegal is illegal.

25 posted on 10/11/2011 3:51:32 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: Gabrial

“The biggest issue I have with it is that it discriminates against US citizens that live outside of Texas. Why on earth should a US citizen in Oklahoma have to pay more to go to a school in Texas than a child of illegal alien living in Texas? That just does not seem fair to me.”

You know, you’re right. Everyone is right about this issue. There is no way to explain what is right about it. Everyone can ask why, but no one says what do you do with the kid who has never lived in Mexico and has graduated from our school system.? You send them back to where? And is that only for Mexicans or do we include Chinese and Russians and
Arabs who over-stay their visas? And is it just Texas because we have a governor who can’t debate or do we include Georgia and California? How did Arizona get so messed up? I sure don’t know what the answer is. Our governors tend to have strong Christian backgrounds. I feel we are in a no win situation because the federal government failed to enforce immigration laws. Our federal government failed to protect and defend our borders. It is not a problem that just popped up during the Bush and
Perry administrations. Perry responded as though he was attacked. He was. Being a Texas A&M grad, he should have just answered “no excuses, sir.”


26 posted on 10/11/2011 4:11:10 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: Meet the New Boss

“They’re pinning their hopes on Perry.....”

Oh. That’s good.

You know when the last candidate is left standing, everyone will hate his/her guts for not being perfect...and they’ll stay home and order Obama homecoming flowers.


27 posted on 10/11/2011 4:21:42 PM PDT by FryingPan101 (Perry/Palin)
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To: Nea Wood

This is all about giving a free ride to illegals and other minorities, while white middle class kids become indentured servants to the federal government.

That is the plan.

Don’t let your kids get into student loan debt.
Stop funding the liberal elite certification scam.

The excessive fees colleges require go to fund those “others” “free” education, while the middle class goes into debt.


28 posted on 10/11/2011 4:26:41 PM PDT by TruthConquers (Delendae sunt publicae scholae)
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To: FryingPan101

Personally, I’m perfectly willing to go vote for a ham sandwich over Zero and I will do so if I have to.

But the issue with respect to Perry is far more than an imperfection in my opinion, it’s an issue that seriously puts at risk the very ability of our Constitutional tradition of limited government and free markets to survive, which has already been greatly eroded.


29 posted on 10/11/2011 4:30:02 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Grey Eagle
it is insulting to call him LaRaza Rick.

It actually says "Ricky La Raza", which certainly rolls more nicely off the tongue. But 'insulting'? Hardly. Here is Ricky with his buddies at the La Raza luncheon having a good old time.

30 posted on 10/11/2011 5:18:03 PM PDT by montag813
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To: montag813

No one was asked at the NH debate about illegals,borders, In state tuition. Ca. of course just passed this and it stinks to high heaven. Ca. is leading the way to pure national destruction. Liberalism is such a sick ideology that one wonders if they would surrender to Iran after we found out today about their cartel outrage and then they will soon get nukes. What then libs? Instate tuition for terrorists?????


31 posted on 10/11/2011 8:00:01 PM PDT by phillyfanatic
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