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Ann Coulter Analyzes Perry's Romneycare Attack Ad (Video and Transcript)
Fox News ^ | October 11, 2011

Posted on 10/11/2011 11:57:46 AM PDT by hocndoc

ANN COULTER, AUTHOR: It's a good ad. It's probably Romney's biggest problem, and that was a very strong ad, though I must say there are differences between doing it just in a state and doing it nationally. You can leave a state. You can't leave the country, or at least not quite as easy.

And the other thing is, I mean, the country has spoken. They do not want national health care. Romney himself has said, whatever he says about -- about what he did in Massachusetts, he says his first day in office, he will issue 50 state waivers to Obamacare, every state. We don't have to worry about him making that mistake again.

What it reminds Republicans -- but I think we all knew this -- is that he's not a pure free-marketeer. The Heritage Foundation, by the way, signed off on Romneycare and also in a small defense of Romneycare, though it is not a free market solution. A governor is limited in the solutions he can come up with because of federal laws requiring that hospitals treat anyone who comes to their door, including strings of illegal immigrants with sniffles or who think they're getting a cold. That was the problem Romney was dealing with as a governor.

The problem generally with Obamacare and Romneycare is that they are responding to problems that were created by government intervention in the first place.

INGRAHAM: Right.

COULTER: Yet, at least in the case of Romneycare, he was responding to government problems created by the federal government and not the state government. So it is more defensible.

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Ann gives RomneyCare a pass, because Romney only worked like this in his State and was reacting to the problems that the Feds caused.

She then claims that Governor Perry would give illegal aliens amnesty, in direct opposition to how he's governed and what he's written and said, consistently.

1 posted on 10/11/2011 11:57:53 AM PDT by hocndoc
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; shield; smoothsailing; casinva; Recovering_Democrat

More on Ann Coulter’s wrong pick on the Republican nominee: full pass for Romney, and lies about Governor Perry.


2 posted on 10/11/2011 12:00:09 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: hocndoc

Ann Coulter is proff that there is nobody on this planet with which I agree 100%.


3 posted on 10/11/2011 12:01:21 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: hocndoc

Ann Coulter is proof that there is nobody on this planet with which I agree 100%.


4 posted on 10/11/2011 12:01:28 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: hocndoc

Ann Coulter is proof that there is nobody on this planet with whom I agree 100%.


5 posted on 10/11/2011 12:01:47 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: hocndoc

She’s just shooting off her mouth.

I guess now that Christie has endorsed Romney, she will regularly be lying about Gov. Perry’s positions.


6 posted on 10/11/2011 12:01:55 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: hocndoc
I think Cain kinda screwed up Perry's plan. He now has a two front war. He is gonna go after Herman Cain's crazy 9-9-9 plan now too. Cain ain't going after Romney and vice verse.
7 posted on 10/11/2011 12:02:50 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: cuban leaf

Spot the differences between the three posts. It’s my “edit post” solution. :-p


8 posted on 10/11/2011 12:02:50 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: hocndoc
Anyone one that does not know perry would sign amnesty is hopeless. Now do not go into all that long winded hyper ventilating, with forty thousand spin posts, because I am heartless and do not care. And not willing to lose the country over your feelings. The reason we have a health care problem is because of illegals. The federal government has caused the states to spend trillions on this crap.
10 posted on 10/11/2011 12:04:37 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You can leave a state”. Perfect, Ann. You’re endorsing a guy who’s greatest achievement is so detestable to Conservatives that they may want to physically leave their beloved state to avoid his policy. And we can do no better?


11 posted on 10/11/2011 12:05:28 PM PDT by Dansong
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To: hocndoc
Romney is pro-choice. His state had one of the worst records for second amendment freedoms. His state has consistently been bailed out by the federal government to keep it out of the red. They had high taxes. He had a poor job creation record and ran most of the industry out of the state with regulations and taxes.

Perry granted illegal aliens in-state tuition. He opposed the Arizona law on illegal aliens. He tends to be further left on most issues than I am.

I would vote for either of them over Obama, but I would prefer Bachman or Cain.

12 posted on 10/11/2011 12:06:11 PM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: hocndoc
though I must say there are differences between doing it just in a state and doing it nationally. You can leave a state. You can't leave the country, or at least not quite as easy.

(rolling eyes)
13 posted on 10/11/2011 12:07:39 PM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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That’s an ugly thing to say. We can disagree with people, even call them on their lies, but let’s don’t use ugly insinuations, please!


14 posted on 10/11/2011 12:08:33 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: cuban leaf; Cincinatus' Wife; normy

From the Governor, could have been written about RomneyCare:

Who, pray tell, is yelling “Stop” today? It sure isn’t Washington Republicans. Now, don’t misunderstand me—these days, I believe there is generally no question about which party to support. I am a proud, albeit frustrated, Republican. I am frustrated because Republicans have so often been part of the problem in Washington, rather than standing on principle to give voice to the American people. We should not endeavor to be better than Democrats only by default—that is, “Democrat Lite.” Rather we should endeavor to demonstrate that we believe in something bigger than ourselves.

I realize I will take some heat for pointing this out. Much is made by establishment Republicans of the so-called eleventh commandment, one sentence uttered by Reagan in 1976: “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”14 Well, I love and respect the Gipper as much as the next American and agree that Republicans should support one another, but he also said, “Presidents come and go. History comes and goes, but principles endure.” The truth is that in the face of a constant drumbeat to centralize power in Washington, Republicans too often either sit on the sidelines or actually make the problem worse. pp. 140-141
Perry, Rick (2010-11-15). Fed Up!: Our Fight to Save America from Washington. Little, Brown and Company. Kindle Edition.


15 posted on 10/11/2011 12:09:41 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: hocndoc

“””he will issue 50 state waivers to Obamacare”””


Issuing waivers is Romney’s Liberal RINO code talk for saying that he really does like Socialized Medicine and he will do nothing to help repeal ObamaCare.

Romney needs to be removed from the upper tier candidates.


16 posted on 10/11/2011 12:10:00 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: hocndoc

Even if Romney were to provide 50 state waivers, it still wouldn’t change the fact that the law creates over 100 new government agencies, diverts money from Medicare to Obamacare, and raises taxes. The only way to fix this is to repeal the law.


17 posted on 10/11/2011 12:10:07 PM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: hocndoc

Not only that, but Coulter was all in for Christie to run and claimed Christie is not RINO, then,
after Christie said no, she said in talk show interviews that she is going to support Romney.

As far as Cain, she didn’t opine on him (that I heard, anyways), but why should she bother with Cain when she can have Romney and maybe get Cain, too.

And Cain has said of Mitt:

“Romney ia good choice, but I believe he can’t win”.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/jul/18/romneys-religion-a-barrier-to-republican-nod-cain-/?page=all

In that interview, Cain went on to critique Romney’s candidacy on only a single point...that Romney’s Mormonism is so unpopular in the South he’s not politically viable there.

Also in the interview he mentions that he, Cain, is Baptist. Nice touch, Mr. Cain, to remind Southerners that unlike Mitt, he’s not Mormon, he’s Baptist. While at the same time, saying Romney “is a good choice” but can’t win with his religion.

How nice. Put Cain on Romney’s ticket, or vice versa, and you’ve got geographic and religious balance.

Add to that, Cain says he is open to Romney as his VP, and open to being anybody’s VP except Perry’s.

What a neat package! /sarc

Why is the leading Tea Party candidate so ok with Romney?????????????????????


18 posted on 10/11/2011 12:15:12 PM PDT by txrangerette ("...HOLD TO THE TRUTH; SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR." - Glenn Beck)
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To: hocndoc

I won’t get into whether Romneycare was a good or a bad idea. It’s pretty much irrelevant.

This is, or should be, a constitutional issue.

And there is absolutely nothing unconstitutional about a state deciding to establish a public health care system.


19 posted on 10/11/2011 12:16:09 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: org.whodat
Stupid ad. Perry has already shown he approves of the use of government mandates in health care. If he tries to argue in degrees he will come off looking like a flaming hypocrite. He ceded the high ground on this issue a long time ago.
20 posted on 10/11/2011 12:16:53 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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21 posted on 10/11/2011 12:19:15 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: hocndoc
Coulter is a known shilll for east coast RINOs.

A governor is limited in the solutions he can come up with because of federal laws requiring that hospitals treat anyone who comes to their door, including strings of illegal immigrants with sniffles or who think they're getting a cold. That was the problem Romney was dealing with as a governor.

All 50 states are under the same federal mandates as Mass. Why did no other state come up with government health care?

And if Romney was trapped by that reality and by a veto-proof Dem legislative majority, why does he to this day praise Romneycare, despite its documented problems?

22 posted on 10/11/2011 12:19:36 PM PDT by dirtboy
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To: txrangerette

“Why is the leading Tea Party candidate so ok with Romney?????????????????????”

A very good question. The reasons might be emotional rather than rational.


23 posted on 10/11/2011 12:22:19 PM PDT by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Perry has already shown he thinks he has the power to order what he determines is health care. What is the difference in a mandate and an executive order.


24 posted on 10/11/2011 12:22:52 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: hocndoc

Coulter is inconsistent in that she attacks Perry while giving Romney a pass on states issues. I will not vote for Romeny. However, I would rather not vote for Perry unless I do not have a choice.
Choo choo..here comes my train!


25 posted on 10/11/2011 12:23:27 PM PDT by Leep
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To: hocndoc

Romney is Obama’s pick because he takes socialized healthcare off the debate table. Romney can pretend his actions as governor don’t equate to Obama’s actions as president, but it is all the same garbage, and that argument won’t fly in the general election.


26 posted on 10/11/2011 12:24:19 PM PDT by pallis
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To: org.whodat
Concur. There is none.

On and by the way. The opt out was the fine print and...
nobody reads the fine print

27 posted on 10/11/2011 12:25:39 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
July 18, 2011: Gov. Rick Perry signs health care reform bill into law; Texas fourth state to pass health care compacts bill

"With the signature of Gov. Rick Perry today, Texas has joined three other states stating their intention to enter into a health care compact.

The compact, which would challenge the authority of the federal government to dictate the terms of the federally and state funded Medicaid program, was part of a wide-ranging health care reform bill, Senate Bill 7, passed by the Texas Legislature in its recently concluded special session.

Georgia, Oklahoma and Missouri have already signed onto the compacts movement, with Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon signing a bill into law on Thursday.

The law establishes Texas, along with the other three states, as pioneers in an uncharted use of Article 1, Section 10 of the Constitution which allows states to enter into agreements that, with the approval of Congress, cannot be abridged by the federal government. There are more than 200 state compacts currently in effect, nearly all of them related to commerce.”…..

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MEANWHILE MITT ROMNEY is pushing these health care exchanges

July 16, 2011: Romney Adviser Backs Obama Health Exchanges

SALT LAKE CITY — Former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt, a top supporter and adviser of Republican White House hopeful Mitt Romney, strenuously backed the core piece of President Barack Obama’s health-care law and urged the states to move forward together in adopting health insurance exchanges.

Speaking to a bipartisan group of governors at the National Governors Association, the former Republican governor who served as secretary of health and human services in the Bush administration, called the exchanges where individuals and small businesses can purchase health plans “a very practical solution to a problem that needs to be solved.” He warned governors who are reluctant to move forward with their state-level exchanges that their intransigence will only empower federal regulators.

And he said the health care law that passed is a compromise that gives the states the flexibility they need.

“This is a profoundly important time for the states,” said Mr. Leavitt. “States need to lead.”

The comments came at a time when every major Republican presidential candidate has pledged to repeal the Affordable Care Act, the president’s health care law. For former Massachusetts Gov. Romney, the issue is extra sensitive: the health care plan he secured for Massachusetts included an exchange almost identical to the federal law. He has tried to tightrope through the issue, blasting the federal law as he defends his own.

The federal law gives the states until January 2014 to set up their own exchanges, with federal oversight. If they fail to do so, their citizens will get access to a federal exchange.

But some Republican governors have been reluctant. They oppose the federal law and say they hope it will be repealed by a Republican president in 2013.

28 posted on 10/11/2011 12:27:41 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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29 posted on 10/11/2011 12:32:19 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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“he (romney) says his first day in office, he will issue 50 state waivers to Obamacare, every state. We don’t have to worry about him making that mistake again.”

So what, that leaves the IPAB board intact, the HHS bureaucracy intact, and these waivers are not provided for in the obamacare law. The Leftists wil seek a court challenge to any blanket waiver. obamacare must be absolutely repealed; it is a cancer that will spread unless excised.

“because Mormons are always lovely people.”

Right Ann, like harry reid.


30 posted on 10/11/2011 12:32:45 PM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est)
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To: hocndoc

Tries to make Romneycare an issue of Federalism but implies Perry, who is a very strong states rights guy, wants to do oherwise with Texas regading in state tuition.

The guys on the wall steet journal show on Fox called this “Fairweather Federalism”


31 posted on 10/11/2011 12:33:04 PM PDT by tirednvirginia (one)
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To: hocndoc
The most ironclad case against Mitt Romney. Post it far and wide.

A Essay on Mitt Romney Its damning.

32 posted on 10/11/2011 12:36:04 PM PDT by 506Lake (I'll say it again... no more compromise.)
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To: txrangerette
Why is the leading Tea Party candidate so ok with Romney?????????????????????

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I don't know and for the life of me can't figure it out.

I think Mr Romney could be an OK president, certainly better than Bush in some ways. He is not pro choice, he is not anti-2nd amendment. Would it help to give 50 waivers. Yes. With the waviers given then the destruction of the insurance industry wouldn't happen while we were waiting for congress to get rid of Obamacare. With the waivers we have time to get rig of it without the argument that it is already implemented and now we can't go backwards or we will take away peoples insurance. The 50 waivers is a must for whomever wins.

I have my doubts that a Mormon can win. People in this country are fairly open minded and easy going but the press will have the strangest accusations about Mormonism on the air and on the front pages every day in an attempt to help the One.

If Cain isn't the nominee I will be sick. If Perry is the nominee I will fear that we will have the Mexicans with us forever. If Romney is the nominee I will look forward to four more years of the one, or the Zero.

33 posted on 10/11/2011 12:40:54 PM PDT by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: cuban leaf

Your three posts are proff that you the difference between who and whom.


34 posted on 10/11/2011 12:41:28 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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To: pgkdan

Thank ewe! :-D


35 posted on 10/11/2011 12:42:23 PM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: hocndoc

The East Coast RINO Establishment is circling the wagons. FUMR, FUAC.


36 posted on 10/11/2011 12:45:40 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Stupid ad. Perry has already shown he approves of the use of government mandates in health care. If he tries to argue in degrees he will come off looking like a flaming hypocrite. He ceded the high ground on this issue a long time ago.

That's the stupidest post I've read all day!

37 posted on 10/11/2011 12:46:15 PM PDT by pgkdan (Perry 2012!)
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To: hocndoc
Mitt Romney: Gun Control
We do have tough gun control laws in Mass.
I support them and will not chip away at them.


Mitt Romney: Abortion
I believe abortion should be safe and legal in this country.
I will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose.
I am not going to change our pro-choice laws in Mass. in anyway.

38 posted on 10/11/2011 12:48:44 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter
I find it odd that you're on a Rick Perry thread.

Just how odd is that??

39 posted on 10/11/2011 12:50:44 PM PDT by mikhailovich
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To: shield

40 posted on 10/11/2011 12:50:58 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

There’s a huge difference between a State mandating vaccination for school children and mandating that everyone buy pre-paid health care.

One is for the good of the child and the other is for the pocketbook of the State.


41 posted on 10/11/2011 12:51:36 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: hocndoc
Sweet rationalization for government intrusion into the private lives of citizens.
42 posted on 10/11/2011 12:53:23 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: hocndoc
Oh swoon! Coulter endorses Romney. Christy endorses Romney.
Now I am supposed to just swoon and vote for Romney.
**** them and the horse(s) they rode in on.
Primary or general, I ain't voting for him!!
43 posted on 10/11/2011 12:54:51 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTYER but no longer a Republican)
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To: org.whodat

States mandate vaccinations for school children so that they won’t catch diseases. The mandate for pre-paid health care is - as Ann said, so the State can control costs.


44 posted on 10/11/2011 12:55:41 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

The Governor’s EO gave the parents’ rights opt out more publicity than all the anti-vaccination people ever had.

Besides, where’s the opt-out in RomneyCare? Fines?


45 posted on 10/11/2011 12:57:52 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: hocndoc
Arguing in degrees still makes you folks look like hyprcrites.

Mandates = government intrusion

Perry had no problem with it even though there was a legislative solution. Apparently Perry and his wife think they know better than parents.

46 posted on 10/11/2011 1:03:14 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter ( The Prudential Governor... Have you bought your piece of the Rick)
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To: normy
First, we must restrict federal spending. Rampant and wasteful spending in Washington is an affront to both freedom and federalism. The most important thing we could do is amend the Constitution—now—to restrict federal spending. There are generally thought to be two options: the traditional ―balanced budget amendment‖ or a straightforward ―spending limit amendment, either of which would be a significant improvement. I prefer the latter. It is imperative that we establish a constitutional requirement that the federal government live within its means like states and most American households must do—but I don’t want the Washington establishment to hide behind tax increases to ―balance‖ the budget. Let’s use the people’s document—the Constitution—to put an actual spending limit in place to control the beast in Washington. (p. 180-181)

Second, we should restrict the unlimited source of revenue that the federal government has used to grow beyond its constitutionally prescribed powers. One option would be to totally scrap the current tax code in favor of a flat tax, and thereby make taxation much simpler, easier to follow, and harder to manipulate. Another option would be to repeal the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution (providing the power for the income tax) altogether, and then pursue an alternative model of taxation such as a national sales tax or the Fair Tax. (p.182)

Perry, Rick (2010-11-15). Fed Up!: Our Fight to Save America from Washington. Little, Brown and Company. Kindle Edition.

47 posted on 10/11/2011 1:04:51 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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To: gov_bean_ counter

The Legislature had delegated the authority to mandate vaccines to the Executive Branch years before.

The Legislature mandated a named core of 5 vaccinations (diphtheria, rubeola, rubella, mumps, tetanus, and poliomyelitis) in the original law, and delegated the authority to the DSHS to name others. http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/ED/htm/ED.38.htm

The head of the DSHS is the Governor, who is the Executive Officer of the State, and names the Director of DSHS with approval by the Senate.


48 posted on 10/11/2011 1:10:05 PM PDT by hocndoc (http://WingRight.org Have mustard seed: will use it. To control the border, Patrol the border!)
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When Romney accepted the endorsement from Christie, Romney said to the press that when the minister said that about Mormons he did it at the same time he endorsed Perry ( not true the minister said it later) and that Perry said ( you hit it out of the ball park “. Meaning that Perry agreed with what the minister said about Mormons. That is a total lie from Romney. I sure as heck hope someone in the media calls Romney on this LIE. I don’t know it it would be on video or not. But it was on FOX.


50 posted on 10/11/2011 1:44:57 PM PDT by Katarina (Rick Perry the Best man for President ! God bless ElRushbo! Prayers for our troops!)
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