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U.S. Ties Iran to Plot to Kill Saudi Envoy (DC bomb plot)
Wall Street Journal ^ | 10/11/2011 | EVAN PEREZ

Posted on 10/11/2011 2:15:50 PM PDT by PapaBear3625

WASHINGTON—U.S. authorities said Tuesday they had charged two men in an Iranian-directed plot to assassinate the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the U.S.

The alleged assassination plot would represent an escalation in the confrontation between mostly Shiite Iran and mostly Sunni Saudi Arabia, two longtime Middle East rivals. The charges are also a rare instance of Washington accusing Iranian groups of fomenting terrorism on U.S. soil.

Elements of the Iranian government were ready to spend $1.5 million to hire what they believed was a drug-cartel hit squad from Mexico, said U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder.

Prosecutors filed several criminal charges against Manssor Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen who holds Iranian and U.S. passports, and Gholam Shakuri, described as a member of a special-operations unit of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.

Mr. Holder said Mr. Arbabsiar and his Iran-based co-conspirators had been plotting to assassinate the Saudi ambassador since the spring.

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1 posted on 10/11/2011 2:15:52 PM PDT by PapaBear3625
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To: PapaBear3625
They were stringing these guys along for a while, and Holder decided that today would be a really good day to announce the bust.

One problem: while it takes some attention off Fast and Furious, now Obama has to respond to an open and explicit act of war by the government of Iran upon United States soil.

2 posted on 10/11/2011 2:18:18 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Obama has tried sanctions, to no avail. Perhaps “double secret probation” is the next move. Or, maybe Barack should just wait until Iran’s nuclear war-making capability is a fait accompli.


3 posted on 10/11/2011 2:23:56 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
while it takes some attention off Fast and Furious

Obama's response will be "Slow and Marginally Annoyed!"

4 posted on 10/11/2011 2:25:28 PM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree ("Nanny Care State" is not a Division 3 football powerhouse.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Obamma is in bed w/those Iranians...war timed for elections..


5 posted on 10/11/2011 2:26:49 PM PDT by aces
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To: PapaBear3625

Imagine that.
That sure is one co-inky dink.
It involves the Mexican drug world.

Well heck. I guess that gun running thing was a good thing afterall.


6 posted on 10/11/2011 2:27:34 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Neither teabagger nor tyrant)
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To: PapaBear3625

Imagine that.
That sure is one co-inky dink.
It involves the Mexican drug world.

Well heck. I guess that gun running thing was a good thing afterall.


7 posted on 10/11/2011 2:27:44 PM PDT by barstoolblues (Neither teabagger nor tyrant)
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To: PapaBear3625

timing of all this is much too convenient.

what has Manucher Gorbanifar been up to lately?


8 posted on 10/11/2011 2:32:32 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
while it takes some attention off Fast and Furious

Unless the Mexican hit squad was armed with F n F weapons, and assuming they could ever make it past our borders (an Obama/Holder?Napolitano TwoFer?).

9 posted on 10/11/2011 2:36:09 PM PDT by bkopto (Obama is merely a symptom of a more profound, systemic disease in American body politic.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Since it involved a planned attack on the Saudi and Israeli embasies, the U.S. could simply stand back and allow those entities to take care of their business with Iran. Take off the shakles that is preventing them from defending their land.

It was an act of war - but more specifically against those countries.

The only recourse I see from the Nobama bunch is a strongly worded letter signed by Reid, Boehner and Bama.


10 posted on 10/11/2011 2:42:27 PM PDT by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx)
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To: PapaBear3625
The charges are also a rare instance of Washington accusing Iranian groups of fomenting terrorism on U.S. soil.

Washington's been dead for 200 years.

The president is Obama, and his Administration is accusing the Iranian government of planning to put bombs in our nation's capital.

The response is up to Obama now. Not Washington.

11 posted on 10/11/2011 3:06:02 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Convenient, how Holder is trying to divert attention away from Fast and Furious as he tries to make himself look like a responsible Atty General.

BTW, how were the Iranians able to plot an assassination attack in our country? Seems like they aren’t afraid of obama.


12 posted on 10/11/2011 3:07:03 PM PDT by Son-Joshua (son-joshua)
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To: All

so, I wonder if the press will accuse Biden of jumping in a SR71 and flying to Iran and making a deal to divert attention away from Obama’s horrible record? Since there is no evidence, we must dig deeper.


13 posted on 10/11/2011 3:07:49 PM PDT by newnhdad
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree
Perhaps “double secret probation” is the next move.

Oh, the horrors!!!

Are you crazy???

Double secret probation might make Imadinnerjacket say mean things!

14 posted on 10/11/2011 3:08:06 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: PapaBear3625

While Holder was talking I was thinking. when did you learn about this plot. 18 months ago or TODAY.


15 posted on 10/11/2011 3:09:48 PM PDT by marty60
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To: PapaBear3625
AdminJhihD (Hitler in a Turban) and the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps must be glad that G.W. is no longer President, because else-wise they might be getting Hiroshima and Nagasaki repeated on Tehran and Quam else-wise.
16 posted on 10/11/2011 3:12:57 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: RitchieAprile
timing of all this is much too convenient.

Oh, very convenient.

Issa was supposed to issue a subpoena to Holder, so Holder makes this announcement about a guy who was arrested Sept. 29, with not a word being issued about the arrest at the time. Then Fast and Furious heated up, Holder announces the arrest, and suddenly everything else is off the front page.

17 posted on 10/11/2011 3:14:11 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (When you've only heard lies your entire life, the truth sounds insane.)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
strongly worded letter

Only after months of petitioning the UN.

18 posted on 10/11/2011 3:21:26 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: PapaBear3625; jhpigott

The Saudi intelligence guys undoubtedly did the uncovering work. Obama had no choice but to make the arrest and claim the credit.


19 posted on 10/11/2011 3:23:21 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: PapaBear3625
Hmmmmm. Seems I've heard this expression before:

"To 'wag the dog' means to purposely divert attention from what would otherwise be of greater importance, to something else of lesser significance. By doing so, the lesser-significant event is catapulted into the limelight, drowning proper attention to what was originally the more important issue.

The expression comes from the saying that 'a dog is smarter than its tail', but if the tail were smarter, then the tail would 'wag the dog'."

20 posted on 10/11/2011 3:24:39 PM PDT by yorkie (Looks like it's CAIN vs. UNable!)
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To: TruthShallSetYouFree

-——Obama has tried sanctions,-——

The plot lays open the truth.

The Saudis are the real Iranian enemy and the Great Satan is merely the path to war to get them

The Mullahs covet Mecca....... all else is means to that end


21 posted on 10/11/2011 3:26:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: PapaBear3625

Interesting, keep the pressure here at home and they might destroy the MiddleEast’s evil culture for us more efficiently than BUsh did it.


22 posted on 10/11/2011 3:29:27 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: bert

Muslims want the prey, the pride, the Jews out and the Caliphate in. Obama wants to hand over the oil as a result of the crisis to China and Russia. Bush himself unwittingly awarded all kinds of contracts in Iraq.


23 posted on 10/11/2011 3:33:47 PM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: JudgemAll

you are all wet

there is no hue and cry for a new caliphate. There is a minority with delusions of grandeur


24 posted on 10/11/2011 3:44:43 PM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: PapaBear3625

No, Janet, our borders are not as safe as they used to be.


25 posted on 10/11/2011 3:53:13 PM PDT by bgill (There, happy now?)
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To: PapaBear3625

Legally, it was an attempted act of war by Iran against the Saudis. But given that the host nation —us— is responsible for the security of the Saudi Embassy and their staff while in our country, we are in the middle.

This is the BS price we pay for interjecting ourselves into lunatic ME Muslim politics — risking the lives of ordinary Americans to protect the creepy Saudis. It’s a no win scenario.


26 posted on 10/11/2011 4:05:02 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: newnhdad
Since there is no evidence, we must dig deeper.

Remember, it's not the nature of the evidence that's important, it's the seriousness of the charge.

27 posted on 10/11/2011 4:17:36 PM PDT by kevao
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To: PapaBear3625

Wag the dog.....


28 posted on 10/11/2011 4:37:53 PM PDT by headstamp 2 (Time to move forward not to the center.)
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To: All
Re Iran - A Sampler - ON THE INTERNET:


GSN.NTI.org - GLOBAL SECURITY NEWSWIRE: "U.N. AGENCY TO AIR DATA ON IRANIAN NUCLEAR MISSILE CONCERNS" (October 11, 2011) (Read More...)


UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY: Washington - "TREASURY SANCTIONS FIVE INDIVIDUALS TIED TO IRANIAN PLOT TO ASSASSINATE THE SAUDI ARABIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES" (SNIPPET: "The U.S. Department of the Treasury today announced the designation of five individuals, including four senior Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps-Qods Force (IRGC-QF) officers connected to a plot to assassinate the Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States Adel Al-Jubeir, while he was in the United States and to carry out follow-on attacks against other countries' interests inside the United States and in another country. As part of today's action, Treasury also designated the individual responsible for arranging the assassination plot on behalf of the IRGC-QF.") (October 11, 2011) (Read More...)
FBI.gov - New York - Press Release: Washington - "TWO MEN CHARGED IN ALLEGED PLOT TO ASSASSINATE SAUDI ARABIAN AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED STATES" (SNIPPET: "A criminal complaint filed today in the Southern District of New York charges Manssor Arbabsiar, a 56-year-old naturalized U.S. citizen holding both Iranian and U.S. passports, and Gholam Shakuri, an Iran-based member of Iran's Qods Force, which is a special operations unit of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) that is said to sponsor and promote terrorist activities abroad.") (October 11, 2011) (Read More...)
Amended Complaint (pdf) (Read More...)

Complaint-Link (Read More...)

Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "IRGC BOMBING/ASSASSINATION PLOT BUSTED BY DEA/FBI" (October 11, 2011) (Read More...)

INVESTIGATIVE PROJECT.org - For The Record - The IPT Blog - Breaking News: "IRAN-TIED ASSASSINATION, BOMBING PLOT DISRUPTED" (SNIPPET: "Arbabsiar made it clear he didn't care how the ambassador died, or how many innocent people died with him. "They want that guy done, if the hundred go with him, f*** 'em," he allegedly said. When the informant said he could use a bomb or shoot the ambassador, Arbabsiar said "it doesn't matter... whatever is easy for" you. Arbabsiar was arrested Thursday at New York's John F. Kennedy airport, but Shakuri, a Quds force member, is at large.") (October 11, 2011, 3:08 pm) (Read More...)
LONG WAR JOURNAL.org: "U.S. UNCOVERS IRANIAN PLOT TO ASSASSINATE SAUDI ARABIAN AMBASSADOR TO AMERICA" by Wes Bruer and Bill Roggio (SNIPPET: ""Chevrolet" was the code word used by Arbabsiar and Shakuri to refer to the plot to assassinate Ambassaor Adel al-Jubeir. During many recorded phone conversations in Farsi, Shakuri repeatedly told Arbabsiar to "buy" the Chevrolet, indicating that the plot was still to be carried out." SNIPPET: "Today's indictment is only the most recent incident in which the US has pointed the finger at Iran for supporting acts of international terrorism. Over the past several months, the US government has directly implicated Iran in supporting the operations of both al Qaeda and the Taliban in the Middle East and Central Asia.") (October 11, 2011) (Read More...)
Link (Read More...)


Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "IRAN'S TWO NAVIES" (October 10, 2011) (Read More...)

Link (Read More...)


Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "Iranian Cyber Defenders" (October 10, 2011) (Read More...)

Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "Iran Cyber Army [On YouTube]" (October 10, 2011) (Read More...)




29 posted on 10/11/2011 5:03:13 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: PapaBear3625

Why is this news?
Today of all days.
How obvious can he get?


30 posted on 10/11/2011 5:09:05 PM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: PapaBear3625

31 posted on 10/11/2011 5:09:53 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (New gets old. Steampunk is always cool)
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To: dead

Washington’s been dead for 200 years.


And certainly you’re an expert who is dead being, well, as you are, among them (in a manner of speaking).


32 posted on 10/11/2011 5:13:07 PM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PapaBear3625

“Obama has to respond to an open and explicit act of war by the government of Iran upon United States soil.”

Another problem: Obama’s nuclear arms reduction agreement with Russia, who is Iran’s silent partner.


33 posted on 10/11/2011 5:22:49 PM PDT by haroldeveryman
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To: PapaBear3625

As others have said I question the timing of this announcement.


34 posted on 10/11/2011 5:45:49 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: Bokababe
We protected these koranimals?
35 posted on 10/11/2011 6:00:36 PM PDT by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Holder wants a medal for doing his job (for once).


36 posted on 10/11/2011 7:02:21 PM PDT by semaj
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To: bayouranger

The bombing would have killed Americans. And a full war between Wahabbist Saudi’s vs Shi Islamist Iranians may have benefits, but it would also cause a huge oil shock. Hello $200/barrel. Moreover, Islamists other than the Saudi regime would blame Israel.


37 posted on 10/11/2011 7:10:14 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: bayouranger
We protected these koranimals?

Yes, and still do. No wonder the world is so screwed up.

38 posted on 10/11/2011 7:20:07 PM PDT by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: PapaBear3625

I’m very cynical of anything that this administration claims, just as I was with the last administration. Diversion, deflection and hood winking is the MO. Interested parties would like the USA blowing its last wad on another war, this time in Iran. Don’t drink the kool aid.


39 posted on 10/11/2011 7:23:49 PM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: PapaBear3625

The plot is real and it made news today to save Holder and prevent war with Iran. Right now, there are no dead Americans or Saudis, so this can be swept under the rug with a new round of sanctions on Iran. Soon enough Russia and China will break the sanctions.


40 posted on 10/11/2011 7:59:53 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: PapaBear3625
Will this the answer to the big question NO ONE has axed hiz majestye?

Sunni or Shiaa?

41 posted on 10/12/2011 1:31:39 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: F15Eagle

Governments now use false flags as the standard MO to divert the attention of the little lambs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_flag


43 posted on 10/12/2011 5:22:41 AM PDT by apoliticalone (Honest govt. that operates in the interest of US sovereignty and the people, not global $$$)
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To: barstoolblues

Arbabsiar’s arrest came during a sting operation by the FBI and the US Drug Enforcement Administration. A holder of both US and Iranian passports, he is accused of being ready to pay $1.5 million for the murder of the Saudi ambassador. For the hit he allegedly turned to members of the Mexican drug cartel, who in fact were informants for the FBI.

Why is it always the FBI suggesting all these things to “Terrorists.” I suppose it is that they do not have enough real ones.


44 posted on 10/12/2011 5:42:22 AM PDT by Cardhu
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To: PapaBear3625

Not surprisingly, MSNBC’s Madcow Maddow seemed to try to connect bankers to the plot.


45 posted on 10/12/2011 7:40:51 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: marty60
"While Holder was talking I was thinking. when did you learn about this plot. 18 months ago or TODAY."

Guess we'll just have to wait for the Emails to be subpoenaed.

(It will be interesting to see how the Saudi's and other neighbors react.)

46 posted on 10/12/2011 2:23:54 PM PDT by norton
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To: PapaBear3625
Think Imanutjob would have tried this crappola with Reagan in office? Well, how did the respond the last time they seriously messed with us back in 1979 and he was elected in 1980? By the moment Ronnie's hand came off the Bible, the hostages were released and already airborne for home. That's because the imams went to the Ayatollah and gave him a riddle:

"What is flat and glows red?"

NO RESPONSE

"Teheran on Inauguration Day."

This time, they know that all they have to worry about is some hand wringing and harsh language ... maybe.

47 posted on 10/13/2011 6:11:08 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Pilgrim's Progress; BIGLOOK; ASA Vet; LonePalm; Jeff Head; Jim Robinson; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ...

“Since it involved a planned attack on the Saudi and Israeli embasies, the U.S. could simply stand back and allow those entities to take care of their business with Iran. Take off the shakles that is preventing them from defending their land.

It was an act of war - but more specifically against those countries.”

I agree. America will never do anything against Iran’s insane Islamofascist serial killers posing as leaders.

Since their take over of our embassy under the woosey Carter, we have done nothing against these serial killers of Americans. Basically every act of violence committed by Islamofascists against innocent Americans around the world, have been planned/controlled/financed and sanctioned by the insane serial killers in charge of Iran.

The Iranians must have some really bad black mail stuff on America, because they have acted/killed innocents with no problem/recourse during Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clintoon, Bush II and of course Herr Obozo.

This sad state of bs reminds of us leaving the Castros alone in Cuba with no real action like taking them out.

Until Iran’s serial killer leaders are taken out by the Saudis and Israelis, nothing will be done to them.


48 posted on 10/13/2011 7:59:31 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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Re Iran - Another Sampler - ON THE INTERNET:


Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "IRGC-Linked Cleric: Why Assassinate a Lowly Amabassador ... when we ca assassinate King Abdullah himself." (October 16, 2011)


WASHINGTON POST.com - Post Opinions - blog: "INTELLIGENCE LINKS IRAN TO SAUDI DIPLOMAT'S MURDER" by David Ignatius (October 13, 2011, 07:04 pm)


Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "IRGC BOMBING/ASSASSINATION PLOT BUSTED BY DEA/FBI" (October 11, 2011)


Forum.INTERNET-HAGANAH.com: "Reports of Facebook Being Blocked Are Overblown" (SNIPPET: "Regime supporters don't seem to have any problem accessing their accounts. For example, the Qods Force updated their Wall repeatedly on 12 October.") (October 16, 2011)


THE MEIR AMIT INTELLIGENCE AND TERRORISM INFORMATION CENTER: "SPOTLIGHT ON IRAN Week of October 5-11, 2011" -Editor Raz Zimmt (October 11, 2011)


49 posted on 10/16/2011 6:45:49 PM PDT by Cindy
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NOTE The following text is a quote:

www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2011/manhattan-u.s.-attorney-announces-the-indictment-of-two-men-in-an-alleged-plot-to-assassinate-saudi-arabian-ambassador-to-the-united-states

Manhattan U.S. Attorney Announces the Indictment of Two Men in an Alleged Plot to Assassinate Saudi Arabian Ambassador to the United States
U.S. Attorney’s Office
October 20, 2011

Southern District of New York

PREET BHARARA, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, announced that a five-count criminal indictment has been filed today in the case of Manssor Arbabsiar, et al. The charges in the indictment mirror those that were alleged in the criminal complaint that was filed on October 11, 2011. The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge John F. Keenan of the Southern District of New York. An arraignment for Arbabsiar has not been scheduled as of yet. His co-defendant, Gholam Shakuri, remains at large.

This case is being handled by Assistant U.S. Attorneys Glen Kopp and Edward Kim, of the Terrorism and International Narcotics Unit of the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of New York, with assistance from the Counterterrorism Section of the Justice Department’s National Security Division.


50 posted on 10/22/2011 1:19:01 AM PDT by Cindy
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