Rush: Perry the only conservative threat to Romney

The Examiner ^ | October.11,2011 | Charlie Spiering

[gogogodzilla]

The question needs to be “What do you consider conservative?”

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I believe Conservative is:

1. Small government (in both size *AND* scope!)
2. strict Constitutionalist (of which, that includes policing our borders)
3. low taxes
4. smallest number of laws/rules/regulations needed
5. handling all issues at the lowest level necessary
6. pro-gun
7. anti-abortion

Now, under that view of conservativism, Perry’s very conservative. Not perfect... but really good. Obviously, he’s weak on immigration. The rest is pretty much dead-on.

Now, then... comparing the rest of the candidates in a whole-spectrum analysis, Romney’s not conservative, Bachmann’s pretty good, and Cain’s kinda middling.

Of course, under a different standard... you’ll get a different view.

Which means, as you don’t view Perry as conservative, you do have a different standard by which you judge.

[Yosemitest]

Perry's all talk and bad action.
Perry's UNELECTABLE. See post #180.

[Windflier]

I believe Conservative is:

1. Small government (in both size *AND* scope!)
2. strict Constitutionalist (of which, that includes policing our borders)
3. low taxes
4. smallest number of laws/rules/regulations needed
5. handling all issues at the lowest level necessary
6. pro-gun
7. anti-abortion

Now, under that view of conservativism, Perry’s very conservative. Not perfect... but really good. Obviously, he’s weak on immigration. The rest is pretty much dead-on.

I agree with your description of conservatism, but you and I differ as to how well Rick Perry represents those values. I personally see him as weak on most of them.

That said, I'm past debating with others about how they view him. If he suits you as a candidate, more power to you.

[BillyBoy]

You noted that Conservative is:

1. Small government (in both size *AND* scope!)
2. strict Constitutionalist (of which, that includes policing our borders)
3. low taxes
4. smallest number of laws/rules/regulations needed
5. handling all issues at the lowest level necessary
6. pro-gun
7. anti-abortion

Now, under that view of conservativism, Perry...

1. Talks a lot about small government but increased both size *AND* scope of Texas government during his decade long tenure
2. Says its the feds job to police our borders. Opposed many state laws passed by states like AZ and NM that prevent illegal immigration
3. low taxes compared to many states, but raised taxes as Governor
4. issued a number of unnecessary laws/rules/regulations (most notably the Gardasil controversey)
5. talks a lot about “States Rights”. He and his supporters don’t seem very concerned about handling issues at the level of local government or leaving it up to individual citizens and ignore that part of the 10th amendment. In fact, some of them are even offended at proposals that would take power AWAY from the state government and handle it at a level closer to the people.
6. pro-gun
7. says abortion is a state issue, but finally agreed to sign a pledge that he would support a human life amendment, because he had to do this in order to win over social conservatives. Governed pro-life at the state level, but doesn’t seem to be terribly concerned with the issue.

[gogogodzilla]

Do you need a violin for your whine?

[gogogodzilla]

According to the US Constitution, it is the responsibility of the Federal government to protect our borders.

Why do you hate the US Constitution and want to disregard it?

And abortion is not mentioned in the US Constitution, so it falls to the states to determine. It’s morally wrong and every state should oppose it.

Again, why do you want to rip up the US Constitution so much?

As for the 10th Amendment, that keeps power at the state level, not the individual or city level. How each state handles things is up to their voters.

Again, you show your contempt of our country’s most cherished document.

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And I never said Perry was a perfect candidate. He’s just better than the rest.

But I do find it appalling how willingly you are to shred our Constitution. I’ve long called many Republicans the term ‘anti-liberals’ as they have no problem with how Democrats do things, they just have a problem with what they are doing.

In other words, Democrats shred the Constitution over the welfare state. Anti-liberals don’t like the welfare state, but have no problem with how the Democrats did it... and are quite willing to adopt the same in regards to their own pet projects.

And you strike me as an ‘anti-liberal’, not a Conservative.

[Luther1917]

Speaking of conservatism, Perry is Pat Buchanan compared RINO Romney.