Skip to comments.$58-an-Hour UAW Workers Kill $16K Ford Bonus as Stingy
Posted on 10/11/2011 10:58:53 PM PDT by Nachum
As the UAW rank-and-file continues to vote on the contract offer hammered out between management and UAW honchos, the Detroit Free Press reports that at least one local has rejected the offer, even though it includes a $6,000 cash bonus, a $3,700 profit sharing bonus and at least another $1,500 cash for each of the four years on the contract for a total of $15,700 on top of wages and benefits. (Snip) No wonder some auto companies needed a bailout. $56 and $58 an hour? Most CEOs and small business owners make less than that.
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Aren’t these union maggots some of the people who are always complaining about “the rich”? $58 bucks an hour? Only in my dreams. No wonder they don’t mind paying union dues to get DemocRATS elected.
I was just reading on another site about a guy that was just an assembly line worker that has a $100,000 a year retirement + bonuses. That is crazy!!
I remember years ago my father-in-law found out what some union workers were making and he said “What can those men possibly do that would be worth that much to the company?” It is still a good question.
Where’s those occupy protesters when ya need them?
That’s wages and benefits though, such as their insurance. Their actual pay rate is nowhere near that.
Bull there actual pay benefits go upward of $75 to $85. Their base wage is about $58 Hr.
Boo Hoo yuh Frckin Jack Wagon
Boo Hoo yuh Frckin Jack Wagon
Just reporting what the article says.
It's not so much what they do, but what they won't do, like work. The Union thugs are blackmailing everyone to avoid strikes.
In '72 at GM, they played this game. 170 day strike. It was so destructive that GM had to carry car designs over another year and had to throw away 1100 half built cars because they didn't meet the new 1973 Gov'r standards by the time the strike was over.
Since the UAW owns about 30 percent of GM a quicker way to forge a contract would be to have the union execs who sit on the GM board negotiate with the UAW. But maybe they’re already doing that.
The auto workers are going to pluck the goose and drain its blood before killing it. Those shiny bones left over won’t have much left on them.
My wife is almost done with her education and will soon be a Nurse Practitioner. I don’t think she’ll make anywhere near $58 per hour, and she’ll have a Master’s Degree. These UAW people can probably make that kind of money on a GED, while people like my wife have to go through years of hard work and education at a great expense. WTF?!?!
I used to date a girl some years back and her father worked for GM and was a UAW member. He had been with them for close to 20 years and,No joke, he made almost $80 an hour and guess what his job was..He covered for people on their breaks and lunches and the rest of the time..he and others that did his “job” slept in the break room. He told me himself he only really worked about 3-4 hours a day, the rest of the time he watched TV or slept.
This is EXACTLY why Cars made in other countries are cheaper and last longer.
I was talking with a guy at a gov’t site with union construction guys (gov’t employees). He was at a meeting and the boss was pleading with them to “just give me 4 hours of work a day and we can get back on schedule”. He had to plead though - anything more would be harassment.
Oh - they “work” 10-hour days with Friday-Sunday off.
Let me do a little calculation here...
these guys are mostly worth only $8/hour...however they are reliable for showing up and they don’t quit after they get trained.
So lets double their wages to reflect that
They are worth $16/hour.
but they are more productive because they learn a job and stick with it for many many years.
they get premium benefits and pensions
As I see it, they are overpaid around $20/hour.
Can she open up a mini clinic?
I won’t buy an American union car....sorry, I just won’t....I support American business but not the union thugs.....
I hope the OWS people find out about this! March on their homes!
The $58 number is total compensation down from the $72 average.
Some things to ponder.
* This was Wayne Assemby ( Wayne ave and Michigan Ave ) where they used to make all the SUV's and now make the larger Escorts. Their will be other products of that platform and other cars coming their. For what it is worth, I don't understand the beef, out of how many votes this lost by 56 militant unionist.
* Lets see what the other plants do.
* If they do something as stupid, then IMHO Mulally should play hardball.
* Don't forget, this is on top of taking the "Fusion" back from Mexico to "Flat Rock" where the Mustang is made for a net gain of 7000 jobs.
If you add all that up, They can sign me up tomorrow if these guys don't want to do the work...
Let us hope this is 56 loons and not a trend at a number of plants to go.....
I knew a guy quite some years ago when car sales were hot who made over $100k one year because he worked so much overtime. I wonder what the pay would be with all that overtime now.
You just have to love what Unions do for the areas they have control of.
For example, take my 2,900 sq ft house down here in South Texas. It cost me $175,000 3 years ago. The same house in a heavy unionized state would cost about $500,000.
Why? Non right to work state unions. Down here you get paid what you are worth. Up there, they are paid by what they can demand from their employers with absolutely no regard to worth.
The union “circle” that I have recognized early in life is that the parasites claim that the cost of living has risen to the point that they need to strike for more pay. They strike, get more pay, and suddenly all of the other prices in the area rise too. Then the circle begins again, over and over and over.
Not bad. That’s about double what a roofer makes.
You only get to set aside money in your 401(k) based on your regular income ~ not any bonuses or special payments. Plus, if there's a years of service times high 3 or high 5 situation, none of this counts towards that amount.
Companies and governments have been getting away for this quite some time because during ordinary times, when folks have jobs, someone with a job isn't otherwise supporting half a dozen additional dependents ~ e.g. brother in law with his sister's 5 kids, and so on.
The niggling small amounts begin to loom large in the minds of the hard pressed, particularly those facing imminent retirement.
It's a case of FORD GREED versus EMPLOYEE'S NEED. Just one of the reasons unions happen in the auto industry.
They don’t need a bailout. Management needs to refuse to pay them amounts so high that the company can’t compete. If the workers strike, move the company offshore.
I can't speak for small business owners, but my new CEO makes $480 an hour. And her bonus is about 550 times larger than that.
Apparently. Her predecessor was a train wreck and walked away with something like $40 million after less than a year on the job. I could probably screw things up as badly as he did and I'd do it for half the money, too.
If UAW ever had open and free elections all those people would be on the street.
The real source of the problem were the several million Latin American construction workers who came here to do SIP construction.
They and their employers overwhelmed the system and now we have a 15 year overhang of slowmoving, undersold, or unsold houses.
That's where you get the $75 per hour "costs" ~ but that'll include the CEO's salary, his executive suite, white collar and salaried employees, retirees, medical plan, design engineers, sweepers, truckers and a whole host of other people who do not do ON HANDS vehicle assembly or parts manufacturing (note, folks, in a UAW plant an engine is a "part").
You can be a production line worker making $20 an hour Fur Shur. In the good old days you'd have a base pay of $1.60 per hour, and the only way you could get the good stuff at $5 an hour would be to successfully bid off on on a machinist position ~ that's where you fit in to do the part the machine isn't designed to do by itself yet. Minimum wage was $1.15 so that extra .45 was definitely good money.
When I see these stories I always ask "what is the base pay in that plant". That's where the game starts ~ not with the corporate management claim of "costs per hour" ~ they lie a lot too but only their tax collector knows eh.
I am as anti union as the next guy but labor is only about 10% of a new cars MSRP. Moving a factory to Mexico will not lower the cost much, if any. Those are the facts.
If most roofers weren't illegal aliens then they'd probably be making closer to the assembly line workers.
OMG!!! Nearly $60.00/hr. for jobs that generally take about a week to train for? That’s absolutely SICKENING! And these people have the NERVE to complain that they aren’t being paid enough, and that they don’t have enough benefits? Sounds like THEY are more likely in the 1% than the rest of us!
Exactly. Construction workers in this country are the targets of class warfare. The elites are using illegals to push down wages. By the way, thanks to the corrupt bankers I hve been forced to go back to construction.
Well the article says that Auto workers make 56 to 58 an hr. I worked in the A/V manufacturing and I made $33.00 an hr of course I had been there awhile! With benefits we were getting upwards of $65 to $70. So UAW workers always made more than we did cause their Union was stronger!!
The UAW has always gotten better wages than the average Joe! I was in the Aircraft industry and I made $33.00 Hr. Which was pretty good but the Auto workers were always getting better than us!
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