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Quick and dirty debate after-report: Perry Performance
Michelle Malkin Web Site ^ | October 11, 2011 11:01 PM | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 10/12/2011 12:35:28 AM PDT by federal__reserve

To be fair, if you and I had to be up on stage with Charlie Rose and Karen Tumulty, we’d be soporifically stupefied after a few minutes, too. But then again, we’re not running for the highest office in the land and raising millions of dollars from people across the country who are counting on a candidate with the guts, gall, and gumption to take on Barack Obama. By those basic measures of fitness for office, Rick Perry once again failed to deliver. He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless. Just like he was during the 9/23 debate.


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I like Rick Perry and how he has nurtured the 4 aces he was dealt with and not squandered that advantage. If only he was better in debates, this would have been over by now.
1 posted on 10/12/2011 12:35:39 AM PDT by federal__reserve
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To: federal__reserve

Perry looks to be done. Three failed debates with out any improvement is an immediate disqualifier in a race to defeat Obummer. There is only one thing that leaves a little hope for him. This debate had zero viewership and the next one might be better for him, but judging by this lackadaisical performance here, I doubt it.


2 posted on 10/12/2011 12:40:12 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

That and the $17 million he has extracted from donors last quarter.


3 posted on 10/12/2011 12:45:02 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Perry needed to look good in that debate, but he didn’t.

I don’t think we have ever seen a candidate who has been more controlled by high priced political handlers and consultants. Everything is scripted and rehearsed. In the debates, when they are forced to let him out to speak to mass audiences, he looks like a puppet — a stiff, vacuous Ken-doll.

He’s too controlled. It’s weird that he hasn’t made the rounds on the political television shows. We see Herman Cain interviewed on some show or another almost everyday, but we never see Rick Perry. Perry’s handlers don’t trust him enough to let him speak for himself.

Every answer Perry gave was rehearsed, but it looked like they ran out of practice time because he was totally unprepared. He didn’t have very much variation — almost every answer was about some vague, unarticulated energy policy that is going to be his answer to everything. Like a recalcitrant student who didn’t get his term paper done on time, he promised he would turn in his economic plan in the next three days but wasn’t read to talk about it yet — in the debate that was dedicated to only economic issues.

Perry is a mess. I can’t imagine this clown as President.

As far as I’m concerned, Perry is done. The right thing for him to do now is to return the campaign money he has left, but the high priced and useless handlers would never let him do that.

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4 posted on 10/12/2011 12:47:53 AM PDT by bobk333
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To: federal__reserve

I just finished reading Malkin’s book, Culture of Corruption. I am amazed how brilliant this woman is and her research in putting this book together is phenomenal.


5 posted on 10/12/2011 12:48:15 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: federal__reserve

Money doesn’t always means success. Just ask Myth about what all his money did for him in ‘08.


6 posted on 10/12/2011 12:48:42 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

No kidding. I have had a lot of success, just no money!


7 posted on 10/12/2011 12:51:25 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: federal__reserve

Let me guess: The Perrywinkles will now declare Michelle Malkin a RINO and someone who wants Obama to win in 2012.


8 posted on 10/12/2011 12:53:34 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Better to ask forgiveness than permission.)
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To: federal__reserve
I like Rick Perry and how he has nurtured the 4 aces he was dealt

That boy grew up in a hard-scrabble town in Texas... Which 4 aces are you talking about?

He's running for president from Texas, as a republican, having been a Gore delegate.

Exactly which 4 aces, again?

I do despise Gov Goodhair, for reason. Personal, that.

But he is my bastard, and if someone is going to foul-mouth him, I'll know the reason, or claim they are tools of the opposition.

/johnny

9 posted on 10/12/2011 12:59:19 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most of the Perrywinkles have given up on Perry.

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10 posted on 10/12/2011 1:00:26 AM PDT by bobk333
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To: bobk333

I’m starting to think Haley Barbour made a mistake in not running. He would’ve CREAMED Milt Romney in a debate and is a fundraising machine.


11 posted on 10/12/2011 1:02:40 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Better to ask forgiveness than permission.)
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To: Lazlo in PA

“Three failed debates with out any improvement is an immediate disqualifier in a race to defeat Obummer.”

I’m not disputing your statement, but I would love to see it quantified.

Really, how important are the debates to the final outcome? I can’t find any research on that. I believe Gore did much better than Bush with independents, and less Dems watch the debates than Repubs. I just not convinced they are quite as important as most FReepers seem to think.


12 posted on 10/12/2011 1:05:51 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: federal__reserve

>> He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless. Just like he was during the 9/23 debate.

Wrong. He was better prepared for this debate. But there’s certainly room for improvement.


13 posted on 10/12/2011 1:06:01 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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To: bobk333

Perry is a redux of Bob Dole’s campaign. Prior to the primary and general elections Dole was noted for his acerbic wit, but his handlers must have curbed his use of that wit and Dole came across as a cardboard figure.


14 posted on 10/12/2011 1:06:09 AM PDT by monocle
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To: JRandomFreeper

Texas 4 aces:
No state income tax...only 5 or 6 states can claim that, and none of the populous ones. That is the main reason why I live in a no state income tax state.
Major resource of oil and gas.
Texas has passed Tort reform, the only major state to do so.
Texas also benefits from military presence in the state.


15 posted on 10/12/2011 1:08:29 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: federal__reserve

I agree with David Freddoso: “Perry played it safe and lost.”


16 posted on 10/12/2011 1:10:10 AM PDT by jonrick46 (2012 can't come soon enough.)
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To: federal__reserve
I asked for Perry's 4 aces that you bragged about.

You blathered some limp 4 for Texas.

BTW, we don't have an income tax here because it's unhealthy to folks in Austin.

Seriously.

/johnny

18 posted on 10/12/2011 1:14:08 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: expat1000

Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960 mainly due to debate performance. That election should never have been so close to allow Cook county to steal the election.
Reagan helped himself in both elections with superior debate performance.
Bush-41 looking at his watch during the debate killed his chances.
Bush-43 performed good enough in both elections, to neutralize his opponents.

Are you kidding me? 90% of voters are not political junkies. They mainly tune in to the one on one presidential debates to decide their choice. Those TV debates are huge.


19 posted on 10/12/2011 1:14:43 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: federal__reserve

Well, yea for Texas, but, what does he offer Ohio, Michigan,etc?


20 posted on 10/12/2011 1:15:55 AM PDT by des
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To: JRandomFreeper

Have a good Perry night!


21 posted on 10/12/2011 1:16:13 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: federal__reserve
You would like for me to lose you, newb. ;)

White/rice comes to mind.

Oh, and welcome to Free Republic.

/johnny

22 posted on 10/12/2011 1:18:47 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: des

I think you are reading the post incorrectly. Perry inherited those advantages and therefore he can bragg Texas has better jobs numbers. But I still give him credit for not screwing up the advantage.


23 posted on 10/12/2011 1:20:35 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Hey we are all here in this together. I am going to explode some firecrackers when the major networks declare Barry has lost the election. And thanks.


24 posted on 10/12/2011 1:24:07 AM PDT by federal__reserve (November 2012 will decide whether we fall into an abyss or walk up the shiny city on the hill.)
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To: federal__reserve
Perry inherited those advantages and therefore he can bragg Texas has better jobs numbers

Perry didn't inherit anything but his legacy. He's in the running for the longest serving governor of Texas, not that we give them much power down here.

And bragg is a federal fort. Brag is a verb.

Newbie punks are reaching.

/johnny

25 posted on 10/12/2011 1:24:25 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: federal__reserve
Hey we are all here in this together.

No, we're not.

Yer on yer own...

/johnny

26 posted on 10/12/2011 1:26:02 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: federal__reserve
Michelle certainly has done her research on Perry:

""By those basic measures of fitness for office, Rick Perry once again failed to deliver. He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless. Just like he was during the 9/23 debate.

I’m really, really trying to be nice.

Looks like Team Perry’s plan to have him sleep more isn’t working.

...*

Other reax:

Dana Loesch on Perry’s botched Romney attack: “Perry had a golden opportunity to put the screws to him and fumbled.”

Philip Klein: “Perry makes Pawlenty look like a world champion debater.”

Chris Miller: “I am a huge Perry fan. But he blew it on the chance to take Romney down with Healthcare question. Disappointed.”

David Freddoso: “Perry played it safe and lost.”

John Hinderaker: “Rick Perry, during the half of the debate that I saw, bordered on invisible. I don’t know whether the pundits who say this was make or break for Perry are right, but it certainly was not a strong night for him. One thing that strikes me as odd is how little mileage Perry gets out of his job creation record in Texas. He mentioned it a time or two, but, as in prior debates, he didn’t use it effectively as the foundation of his claim to be the strongest candidate.”

See also: Perry #fail.

***

Here comes the CYA:

After a two-hour debate on the economy, earnest GOP operatives headed straight to the spin room to tout the merits of their respective candidates.

As for Texas Gov. Rick Perry,he headed straight to the Beta Theta Pi fraternity house.

“Debates are not my strong suit,” Perry told about 100 fraternity brothers gathered to see him at the house, a few blocks from the debate site on the campus of Dartmouth College.

Swell. Just what Obama ordered…""

27 posted on 10/12/2011 1:31:35 AM PDT by iowamark (Rick Perry says I'm heartless.)
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To: federal__reserve
""He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless."

Following in Juan Nosedivethrowthelection McCain's footsteps.

28 posted on 10/12/2011 1:34:37 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In his governorship, silly.


29 posted on 10/12/2011 1:43:43 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: iowamark

“Yeehaw O’Bummer I can be a good ole fratboy too!”

Not that there’s anything wrong with visiting the old haunt, but did he have to do it while a million eyes were on him?


30 posted on 10/12/2011 1:46:09 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: HiTech RedNeck
His governorship. Which is edging up on Ma and Pa Ferguson's time in office?

And Pa couldn't run again, so we elected the first female governor in the US? (And then followed her up with the nasty red-head about 100 years later?)

The same Ma Ferguson that was quoted as saying "If English was good enough for the Lord, it should be good enough for the chilren of Texas"?

You mean that governorship?

We keep them in Austin to keep track of them. Let 'em get loose and you get Huey Longs (so long as they last).

We're not French.

/johnny

31 posted on 10/12/2011 1:51:16 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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By "Pa couldn't run again" I mean The Senate removed him from the office of Governor and declared him ineligible to hold office under Texas jurisdiction.

Sorry if I soft pedaled that.

Lucky they didn't hang him.

/johnny

32 posted on 10/12/2011 1:56:31 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: federal__reserve

“Bush-43 performed good enough in both elections, to neutralize his opponents.”

More Americans voted for Gore than Bush 43 in 2000. Had Ralph Nader not been in the race in Florida, Gore would have won.


33 posted on 10/12/2011 2:14:19 AM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
To 8 - Wrong. Malkin is brilliant and one of the best journalist going. You see, 2DV, unlike you Palin drones we Perrywinkles don't censure, berate, and smear someone just be because that person has a different opinion. MM asks legitimate questions. I happen to disagree with her on some of her conclusions inre Perry. But I still admire her very much.

Now, do you see how that works? (Of course you don't)

34 posted on 10/12/2011 2:18:05 AM PDT by jla (Who says Perry's a conservative? - Rush, Inhofe, Levin & Sowell do.)
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To: federal__reserve

“Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960 mainly due to debate performance.”

The people listening to the ‘60 debate must’ve not had a huge problem with Nixon, since (IIRC) he did win the popular vote — just not the electoral. Typical corruption on the parts of the Kennedy Machine and democrats in general put Kennedy in office (as you said: Cook Co. stole it). It wasn’t the debate.

Perry’s a doofus. Every time I see/hear him, a picture of Bush pops into my head. Mitt is icky. (Did I hear correctly that he thought Obama’s bailout was a good thing?) Bachmann would be cruicified by the dems if she were our nominee; I’m sure the MSM has all the dirt at the ready. Newt is smart, but self absorbed and pompous, and his personal history sucks. Santorum seems to be OK. I like Cain — just about everything about him.


35 posted on 10/12/2011 2:27:25 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: federal__reserve
I really wanted Perry to do good, because like most here I think Romney is McCain redux. But Perry is unable to show up at this or the other debates with a coherent economic policy. When he said, he would be releasing his economic policy in a few days it reminded me of a kid who forgot to do his homework.
I'm an Oil and Gas advocate but that's not an economic policy it's an Energy policy.
I'm afraid we have seen the Peter Principle in action in these debates, sorry Perry is done.
36 posted on 10/12/2011 3:01:54 AM PDT by Recon Dad (Honkies for Herman......Crackers for Cain)
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To: federal__reserve
Texas also benefits from military presence in the state.

Yes, Texas benefits from the military and the support manufacturing. But on the other side of that, the nation benefits from Texas contribution to both. We produce lots of good soldiers and lots of fine weapons.

37 posted on 10/12/2011 3:03:42 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Lazlo in PA

Its Beyond obvious this guy cant handle debates,doesnt mean he is not conservative or a Great Guy,but he wont cut it against the Marxist.
Bachman stole the show for me at the Beginning when for the first time in Years a Republican smacked a Liberal between the eyes on the Housing Crisis,The Community reinvestment act,and the Government lowering borrowing standards and Threatening Banks caused the Problem. I almost fell off the Couch when she blasted Tumulty with that and then Newt said Dodd and Frank Should be in Jail instead of people on Wall St.! Where the Hell has that been for the past 3 years?


38 posted on 10/12/2011 3:07:21 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: iowamark
As for Texas Gov. Rick Perry,he headed straight to the Beta Theta Pi fraternity house.

"I'm in trouble. I just talked to the Jewish house and every one of my answers in the debate was wrong," Perry told about 100 fraternity brothers gathered to see him at the house, a few blocks from the debate site on the campus of Dartmouth College.

/s

39 posted on 10/12/2011 3:19:12 AM PDT by Ken H
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To: federal__reserve

Yes
Mexican elections coming soon, though. He can run there


40 posted on 10/12/2011 3:53:10 AM PDT by heiss (heartless)
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To: bobk333

So who are you voting for? Cain seems to be a single issue candidate, Bachmann is unelectable, Huntsman might be worse than Romney, Santorum is a a Rumsfeld redux on foreign policy, Gingrich is a personal train wreck, and Palin isn’t running. We have a bad group of candidates and the George Bush reincarnate may be the best of them.


41 posted on 10/12/2011 3:59:30 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: JRandomFreeper
Which 4 aces are you talking about?

Instate tuition, Bi-national healthcare, Gore and Guiliani?

42 posted on 10/12/2011 4:15:34 AM PDT by Boston Blackie
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To: federal__reserve

Rick Perry- “PRESENT”


43 posted on 10/12/2011 4:19:11 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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To: federal__reserve

Perry consistently sucks. I dubbed him the Dunce, and he has done nothing to make me want to change that moniker, unless I go with Stammering Dunce. He has got no game.


44 posted on 10/12/2011 5:06:53 AM PDT by Huck (NO FEDERAL SALES TAX -- UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Barbour would have had the same problem as Christie, it’s all about looking the part now. Barbour looks like the sheriff in the commercials Dodge used to run long ago, “You in a heap o’ trouble boy.”

If Romney looked like Dennis Kucinich he would be running at one percent in the polls. Even Herman Cain at 65 looks the part, Gingrich may be the best man running but he doesn’t look the part either. Abraham Lincoln probably couldn’t get elected to a local school board now.

Of course JUST looking the part doesn’t do it all as Perry seems to be proving but NOT looking the part seems to be the kiss of death in this era.


45 posted on 10/12/2011 5:11:07 AM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: Lazlo in PA
“There is only one thing that leaves a little hope for him. This debate had zero viewership”

I didn't even know I had a Bloomberg channel. It wasn't until after the debate was over when I discovered I did. But they say I didn't miss anything.

46 posted on 10/12/2011 5:21:33 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Soul of the South

“Had Ralph Nader not been in the race in Florida, Gore would have won.”
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

That is probably true but hard to prove as a certainty, what does appear as a certainty is that if Gore had carried his own home state of Tennessee he would have won. It came down to a roll of the dice almost.


47 posted on 10/12/2011 5:23:31 AM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: Huck

A stammering dunce can be elected as proven by Obama but then he has the support of the media and a D after his name.


48 posted on 10/12/2011 5:27:32 AM PDT by RipSawyer ("IDIOCRACY" is a documentary of current conditions in America.)
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To: Huck

49 posted on 10/12/2011 5:38:47 AM PDT by CASchack
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To: federal__reserve
I've noticed Perry staring off into space during some of these debates. Does he have an attention deficit problem or something? Example:


50 posted on 10/12/2011 5:40:17 AM PDT by McGruff (Still a member of Sarah's Army)
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