Skip to comments.Quick and dirty debate after-report: Perry Performance
Posted on 10/12/2011 12:35:28 AM PDT by federal__reserve
To be fair, if you and I had to be up on stage with Charlie Rose and Karen Tumulty, wed be soporifically stupefied after a few minutes, too. But then again, were not running for the highest office in the land and raising millions of dollars from people across the country who are counting on a candidate with the guts, gall, and gumption to take on Barack Obama. By those basic measures of fitness for office, Rick Perry once again failed to deliver. He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless. Just like he was during the 9/23 debate.
Perry looks to be done. Three failed debates with out any improvement is an immediate disqualifier in a race to defeat Obummer. There is only one thing that leaves a little hope for him. This debate had zero viewership and the next one might be better for him, but judging by this lackadaisical performance here, I doubt it.
That and the $17 million he has extracted from donors last quarter.
Perry needed to look good in that debate, but he didn’t.
I don’t think we have ever seen a candidate who has been more controlled by high priced political handlers and consultants. Everything is scripted and rehearsed. In the debates, when they are forced to let him out to speak to mass audiences, he looks like a puppet — a stiff, vacuous Ken-doll.
He’s too controlled. It’s weird that he hasn’t made the rounds on the political television shows. We see Herman Cain interviewed on some show or another almost everyday, but we never see Rick Perry. Perry’s handlers don’t trust him enough to let him speak for himself.
Every answer Perry gave was rehearsed, but it looked like they ran out of practice time because he was totally unprepared. He didn’t have very much variation — almost every answer was about some vague, unarticulated energy policy that is going to be his answer to everything. Like a recalcitrant student who didn’t get his term paper done on time, he promised he would turn in his economic plan in the next three days but wasn’t read to talk about it yet — in the debate that was dedicated to only economic issues.
Perry is a mess. I can’t imagine this clown as President.
As far as I’m concerned, Perry is done. The right thing for him to do now is to return the campaign money he has left, but the high priced and useless handlers would never let him do that.
I just finished reading Malkin’s book, Culture of Corruption. I am amazed how brilliant this woman is and her research in putting this book together is phenomenal.
Money doesn’t always means success. Just ask Myth about what all his money did for him in ‘08.
No kidding. I have had a lot of success, just no money!
Let me guess: The Perrywinkles will now declare Michelle Malkin a RINO and someone who wants Obama to win in 2012.
That boy grew up in a hard-scrabble town in Texas... Which 4 aces are you talking about?
He's running for president from Texas, as a republican, having been a Gore delegate.
Exactly which 4 aces, again?
I do despise Gov Goodhair, for reason. Personal, that.
But he is my bastard, and if someone is going to foul-mouth him, I'll know the reason, or claim they are tools of the opposition.
Most of the Perrywinkles have given up on Perry.
I’m starting to think Haley Barbour made a mistake in not running. He would’ve CREAMED Milt Romney in a debate and is a fundraising machine.
“Three failed debates with out any improvement is an immediate disqualifier in a race to defeat Obummer.”
I’m not disputing your statement, but I would love to see it quantified.
Really, how important are the debates to the final outcome? I can’t find any research on that. I believe Gore did much better than Bush with independents, and less Dems watch the debates than Repubs. I just not convinced they are quite as important as most FReepers seem to think.
>> He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless. Just like he was during the 9/23 debate.
Wrong. He was better prepared for this debate. But there’s certainly room for improvement.
Perry is a redux of Bob Dole’s campaign. Prior to the primary and general elections Dole was noted for his acerbic wit, but his handlers must have curbed his use of that wit and Dole came across as a cardboard figure.
Texas 4 aces:
No state income tax...only 5 or 6 states can claim that, and none of the populous ones. That is the main reason why I live in a no state income tax state.
Major resource of oil and gas.
Texas has passed Tort reform, the only major state to do so.
Texas also benefits from military presence in the state.
I agree with David Freddoso: “Perry played it safe and lost.”
He was at fifth place or so going into this on one poll. Yet one thread had him saying he would win tonight. Sounds like that didn’t happen by the accounts so far. A few weeks ago it looked he was gonna zoom. Now we see Christie supporting Romney. Weird stuff these days.
You blathered some limp 4 for Texas.
BTW, we don't have an income tax here because it's unhealthy to folks in Austin.
Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960 mainly due to debate performance. That election should never have been so close to allow Cook county to steal the election.
Reagan helped himself in both elections with superior debate performance.
Bush-41 looking at his watch during the debate killed his chances.
Bush-43 performed good enough in both elections, to neutralize his opponents.
Are you kidding me? 90% of voters are not political junkies. They mainly tune in to the one on one presidential debates to decide their choice. Those TV debates are huge.
Well, yea for Texas, but, what does he offer Ohio, Michigan,etc?
Have a good Perry night!
White/rice comes to mind.
Oh, and welcome to Free Republic.
I think you are reading the post incorrectly. Perry inherited those advantages and therefore he can bragg Texas has better jobs numbers. But I still give him credit for not screwing up the advantage.
Hey we are all here in this together. I am going to explode some firecrackers when the major networks declare Barry has lost the election. And thanks.
Perry didn't inherit anything but his legacy. He's in the running for the longest serving governor of Texas, not that we give them much power down here.
And bragg is a federal fort. Brag is a verb.
Newbie punks are reaching.
No, we're not.
Yer on yer own...
""By those basic measures of fitness for office, Rick Perry once again failed to deliver. He was languid. Passive. Half-hearted. Listless. Just like he was during the 9/23 debate.
Im really, really trying to be nice.
Looks like Team Perrys plan to have him sleep more isnt working.
Dana Loesch on Perrys botched Romney attack: Perry had a golden opportunity to put the screws to him and fumbled.
David Freddoso: Perry played it safe and lost.
John Hinderaker: Rick Perry, during the half of the debate that I saw, bordered on invisible. I dont know whether the pundits who say this was make or break for Perry are right, but it certainly was not a strong night for him. One thing that strikes me as odd is how little mileage Perry gets out of his job creation record in Texas. He mentioned it a time or two, but, as in prior debates, he didnt use it effectively as the foundation of his claim to be the strongest candidate.
See also: Perry #fail.
Here comes the CYA:
After a two-hour debate on the economy, earnest GOP operatives headed straight to the spin room to tout the merits of their respective candidates.
As for Texas Gov. Rick Perry,he headed straight to the Beta Theta Pi fraternity house.
Debates are not my strong suit, Perry told about 100 fraternity brothers gathered to see him at the house, a few blocks from the debate site on the campus of Dartmouth College.
Swell. Just what Obama ordered
Following in Juan Nosedivethrowthelection McCain's footsteps.
In his governorship, silly.
“Yeehaw O’Bummer I can be a good ole fratboy too!”
Not that there’s anything wrong with visiting the old haunt, but did he have to do it while a million eyes were on him?
And Pa couldn't run again, so we elected the first female governor in the US? (And then followed her up with the nasty red-head about 100 years later?)
The same Ma Ferguson that was quoted as saying "If English was good enough for the Lord, it should be good enough for the chilren of Texas"?
You mean that governorship?
We keep them in Austin to keep track of them. Let 'em get loose and you get Huey Longs (so long as they last).
We're not French.
Sorry if I soft pedaled that.
Lucky they didn't hang him.
“Bush-43 performed good enough in both elections, to neutralize his opponents.”
More Americans voted for Gore than Bush 43 in 2000. Had Ralph Nader not been in the race in Florida, Gore would have won.
Now, do you see how that works? (Of course you don't)
“Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960 mainly due to debate performance.”
The people listening to the ‘60 debate must’ve not had a huge problem with Nixon, since (IIRC) he did win the popular vote — just not the electoral. Typical corruption on the parts of the Kennedy Machine and democrats in general put Kennedy in office (as you said: Cook Co. stole it). It wasn’t the debate.
Perry’s a doofus. Every time I see/hear him, a picture of Bush pops into my head. Mitt is icky. (Did I hear correctly that he thought Obama’s bailout was a good thing?) Bachmann would be cruicified by the dems if she were our nominee; I’m sure the MSM has all the dirt at the ready. Newt is smart, but self absorbed and pompous, and his personal history sucks. Santorum seems to be OK. I like Cain — just about everything about him.
Yes, Texas benefits from the military and the support manufacturing. But on the other side of that, the nation benefits from Texas contribution to both. We produce lots of good soldiers and lots of fine weapons.
Its Beyond obvious this guy cant handle debates,doesnt mean he is not conservative or a Great Guy,but he wont cut it against the Marxist.
Bachman stole the show for me at the Beginning when for the first time in Years a Republican smacked a Liberal between the eyes on the Housing Crisis,The Community reinvestment act,and the Government lowering borrowing standards and Threatening Banks caused the Problem. I almost fell off the Couch when she blasted Tumulty with that and then Newt said Dodd and Frank Should be in Jail instead of people on Wall St.! Where the Hell has that been for the past 3 years?
"I'm in trouble. I just talked to the Jewish house and every one of my answers in the debate was wrong," Perry told about 100 fraternity brothers gathered to see him at the house, a few blocks from the debate site on the campus of Dartmouth College.
Mexican elections coming soon, though. He can run there
So who are you voting for? Cain seems to be a single issue candidate, Bachmann is unelectable, Huntsman might be worse than Romney, Santorum is a a Rumsfeld redux on foreign policy, Gingrich is a personal train wreck, and Palin isn’t running. We have a bad group of candidates and the George Bush reincarnate may be the best of them.
Instate tuition, Bi-national healthcare, Gore and Guiliani?
Rick Perry- “PRESENT”
Perry consistently sucks. I dubbed him the Dunce, and he has done nothing to make me want to change that moniker, unless I go with Stammering Dunce. He has got no game.
Barbour would have had the same problem as Christie, it’s all about looking the part now. Barbour looks like the sheriff in the commercials Dodge used to run long ago, “You in a heap o’ trouble boy.”
If Romney looked like Dennis Kucinich he would be running at one percent in the polls. Even Herman Cain at 65 looks the part, Gingrich may be the best man running but he doesn’t look the part either. Abraham Lincoln probably couldn’t get elected to a local school board now.
Of course JUST looking the part doesn’t do it all as Perry seems to be proving but NOT looking the part seems to be the kiss of death in this era.
I didn't even know I had a Bloomberg channel. It wasn't until after the debate was over when I discovered I did. But they say I didn't miss anything.
“Had Ralph Nader not been in the race in Florida, Gore would have won.”
That is probably true but hard to prove as a certainty, what does appear as a certainty is that if Gore had carried his own home state of Tennessee he would have won. It came down to a roll of the dice almost.
A stammering dunce can be elected as proven by Obama but then he has the support of the media and a D after his name.
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