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America’s Worst Wind-Energy Project
National Review Online ^ | 10/12/11 | Robert Bryce

Posted on 10/12/2011 1:54:31 PM PDT by PDMiller

The more people know about the wind-energy business, the less they like it. And when it comes to lousy wind deals, General Electric’s Shepherds Flat project in northern Oregon is a real stinker.

I’ll come back to the GE project momentarily. Before getting to that, please ponder that first sentence. It sounds like a claim made by an anti-renewable-energy campaigner. It’s not. Instead, that rather astounding admission was made by a communications strategist during a March 23 webinar sponsored by the American Council on Renewable Energy called “Speaking Out on Renewable Energy: Communications Strategies for the Renewable Energy Industry.”

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: ge; moneylaundering; nationalreview; oregon; solyndra; wind
Need to be sure the folly of wind is not lost in the Solyndra saga.
1 posted on 10/12/2011 1:54:37 PM PDT by PDMiller
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To: PDMiller
The Green Jobs Answer Man
2 posted on 10/12/2011 2:00:10 PM PDT by Kozak ("It's not an Election it's a Restraining Order" .....PJ O'Rourke)
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To: Kozak

Excellent video! Birds fly right into those suckers ...

3 posted on 10/12/2011 2:11:09 PM PDT by PDMiller
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To: PDMiller; Nervous Tick; SteamShovel; Tunehead54; golux; tubebender; Fractal Trader; ...

Beam me to Planet Gore !

4 posted on 10/12/2011 2:12:45 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: PDMiller
Reminds me of the Donovan song...”You might have tried to catch the wind.”
5 posted on 10/12/2011 2:17:12 PM PDT by JimmyMc
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To: PDMiller

Some of us saw plenty of the folly of wind and solar during the Carter era. It really, really stinks to be living through the same nonsense again, only this time it is probably two orders of magnitude more of a money-waster.

6 posted on 10/12/2011 2:18:08 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: PDMiller

I’ll bet America’s BEST “Wind Energy Project” is significantly LESS productive than America’s absolute WORST coal plant.

7 posted on 10/12/2011 2:22:24 PM PDT by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: PDMiller

Just found out yesterday that there’s a big windfarm in Northwestern Ohio.

8 posted on 10/12/2011 2:25:31 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: PDMiller
Kind of on the same subject of bogus green energy projects, Brookfield properties , CEO John Zuccatti is allowing the miscreants of occupy Wall St to camp at his park . But it turns out that Brookfield Properties received a federal "loan" for a huge windfarm project in NH

It figures, if you do a little digging you'll find the regime funding this nonsense. I'm sure Soro$ has his deep pockets in the mix too. For G_ds sake! these people have their own newspaper and have a PR firm working for them!

This is the "community organizer's" stock and trade. Hasn't anyone in the media (even Fox) asked why there is very little "occupying" of DC and the WH? If this were any kind of spontaneous protest (or if it were a Republican in the WH) there would be all kinds of marches as there were during Nixon's presidency.

We are being played for fools!!!! The organizer in chief calls for taxes on the rich and these protests spring up!?! I don't think so. When the smoke clears and this regime is only a horrible memory, it'll be reveled that Van Jones, the Tides foundation ,SEIU have their finger prints all over this.

9 posted on 10/12/2011 2:58:05 PM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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To: YankeeReb
Not to beat a dead horse, but we all know these protest organizers are being PAID through NY Working Families Party. What you may not have noticed (at least I didn't) is that the ad came out Sept 26, 2011, a full 2 weeks before all the protesting really got going. Coincidentally, that was the time we were being urged to , "PASS THIS BILL NOW!!!".

Anyone still believe this isn't Astro-Turffed???

10 posted on 10/12/2011 3:06:55 PM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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To: PDMiller
This line from the article sort of stands out.

The memo goes on to say that, while the project backers would only provide equity equal to about 11 percent of the total cost of the wind project, they would receive an “estimated return on equity of 30 percent

Ya think the investors know something? This administration is pathetic.

11 posted on 10/12/2011 3:14:18 PM PDT by BfloGuy (Even the opponents of Socialism are dominated by socialist ideas.)
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To: BfloGuy

It’s a scam of epic proportions. Get the states to mandate some percentage of “green” energy to create artificial demand, then arrange for ridiculous financial incentives to erect wind turbines and you’ve got a recipe for enriching the ruling class while fleecing you and me.

12 posted on 10/12/2011 4:45:56 PM PDT by PDMiller
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To: PDMiller


13 posted on 10/12/2011 11:31:02 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: PDMiller
"...Justin Rolfe-Redding, a doctoral student from the Center for Climate Change Communication at George Mason University..."

This is (yet another) troubling thing from the article. Several bad things come to mind, but I'll keep it to just 2 for now:

1. A well-known University has an entire department for NOT ONLY Climate Change itself (the Dept of Climate Dynamics - I looked it up), but a separate "Center" for Communications of Climate Change issues... or, as one blogger put it: a place "where only one viewpoint is allowed." This absolutely flies against the grain of what Universities as supposed to be about: research, idea exchange, and advancement of the arts and sciences.

2. So now we have this poor kid who is soon to obtain the title "Doctor", which will instantly qualify him to discuss Climate Change issues on PMS/NBC as an "expert" on the topic. Here's the real problem, though: Clearly -- as evidenced from the article -- his thrust of research is not about the truth. It is about how to Tell The Big Lie and make it believable. That degree will come in real handy once Climate Change is finally flushed down the toilet of public opinion... oh, but wait... your research area is on techniques of modifying public opinion? Well, okay, you should be able to easily find work for a future Democrat administration.

Well done, George Mason University: you promote Doctoral degree programs in the Art of The Lie.

14 posted on 10/13/2011 7:45:13 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: cripplecreek

Ping. Right up your alley. Oregon isn’t the only state engaged in this tomfoolery.

15 posted on 10/13/2011 7:51:58 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Rick Perry engages in corporate welfare via Texas TEF/ETF)
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Gov. Rick Perry: Wind Energy Keeps Texas' Air Clean and Our Future Bright

Texas doesn't just believe in the potential of wind energy, we are reaping its benefits already. People who talk about wind energy as a technology of the future clearly haven't been to West Texas lately: the future of wind energy in Texas is now. I probably don't need to spend too much time talking about the benefits of wind energy to a bunch of people who specialize in this remarkable technology, but a few things really stand out for me. I am proud that our state's installed wind generation capacity leads the nation, a place we did not reach by accident.


Just last year, nearly $3 billion worth of wind-powered electric generators were installed, twice as much as any other state. This addition of more than 1,600 megawatts of capacity bumped up our total wind capacity by 59 percent. And the hits keep on coming. For example, this afternoon, one of the world's largest manufacturers of alternative energy equipment is announcing a new research facility here in Houston. And I recently got word that Hill Country Wind Power has acquired the Wind Turbine Company and is moving their manufacturing operations from Bellevue, Washington to the Lone Star state. With progress like this, I am confident we'll hit the next milestone, 10,000 megawatts, or 10% of our current capacity, well before the deadline in 2025.

16 posted on 10/13/2011 7:53:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread
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To: alancarp
Great point re: the George Mason angle.

When I fought wind turbines in Southwest Michigan, my nemesis was a guy dispatched from Michigan State's School of Agriculture. His pitch was to get farmers to sign up for the lucrative lease arrangements being dangled in front of their noses. Needless to say having to fight for my property rights against a guy on the State payroll was yet additional salt in an already irritated wound.

17 posted on 10/13/2011 8:12:54 AM PDT by PDMiller
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To: PDMiller

Yeah, I’ll bet. Even when it’s tax money being spent, a lot of people have a hard time turning down “free” money.

18 posted on 10/13/2011 9:20:20 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks PDMiller.

19 posted on 10/14/2011 7:08:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link --
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To: PDMiller

Sometime folks see Baraq’s ultra left background but forget that he got a “masters” in “operations” from the Chicago political mob.

Those are the folks that wrote the book on corruption.

He’s learned well.

20 posted on 10/14/2011 7:14:41 PM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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