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An Act Of War
IBD Editorials ^ | October 12, 2011 | Editor

Posted on 10/12/2011 7:21:38 PM PDT by Kaslin

Security: An Iran that's building nuclear weapons sponsors a shot at terrorism and murder on U.S. soil. Will we wait until Ahmadinejad's operatives come across our porous Southern border with a dirty bomb?

The good news is the Iranian plot to assassinate the Saudi ambassador to the U.S. with a car bomb at a Washington, D.C., restaurant was foiled. The bad news is that Iran even attempted to strike inside America.

This is something that speaks to the fruits of President Obama's apology tour: Those that should fear us don't. Iran doesn't fear America or possible retaliation any more than it did when the Iranian-backed terrorist group Hezbollah murdered 241 U.S. service members in their Beirut barracks in 1983.

What will we do? Cut off a few more bank accounts? Ask for more meaningless sanctions? We bomb Libya, the mouse that roared, but won't even send so much as an iPhone to Iranian dissidents who share a common enemy — Tehran.

In 2009, when Iranian dissidents risked their lives to demonstrate against the gray-beard mullahs oppressing them, Tehran paused briefly as the Soviet Union did in Hungary in 1956. Seeing no Western support for the uprising, Tehran unleashed its security apparatus to suppress and murder — much as Moscow ordered the tanks to roll into Budapest. Now we are Iran's target.

How it was tried should also concern us. One plotter, Manssor Arbabsiar, a naturalized U.S. citizen who holds American and Iranian passports, met with a person he thought was associated with a Mexican drug cartel to offer a down payment for the hit. Instead, he met with a Drug Enforcement Administration informant.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: dogofislam; iran; mutthamad; now; nuclear; war

1 posted on 10/12/2011 7:21:39 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
An act of war? Happily we have someone in the White House who can appropriately respond.

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2 posted on 10/12/2011 7:24:34 PM PDT by newheart (When does policy become treason?)
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To: Kaslin

Some day, we will have to deal with Iran. I don’t much like this, but I sure don’t want to wait until their nuke program matures.


3 posted on 10/12/2011 7:28:12 PM PDT by umgud
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To: Kaslin

This is total BS.

Wag the dog when your reelection chances look bleak.

Clinton did it with Bosnia and OK City.

When Rats are cornered they’ll do anything to hold on to power.

Dangerous times ahead.


4 posted on 10/12/2011 7:31:01 PM PDT by Blado (Audemus jura nostra defendere)
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately we can’t believe a word of anything that may fall out of this administrations cakehole. So we are paralyzed from making any decision regarding any action to take in response to something that may or may not have happened in whole or in part.

Personally, I don’t believe any of it.

We are at war with Eastasia, we have always been at war with Eastasia


5 posted on 10/12/2011 7:31:09 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: umgud

This is a very serious situation. Since Iran knows how weak our president is, they are increasing their nuclear capabilities and becoming bolder. I PRAY that God protects us from this evil regime. At least until we can oust King Obamao.


6 posted on 10/12/2011 7:36:24 PM PDT by GunPkrBkr (I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six.)
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To: Kaslin

If they really did this, send a drone ,cap a mullah,dare them to try it again,tell everybody else to suck an egg.


7 posted on 10/12/2011 7:38:05 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: Kaslin
So the Obama administration has graduated from selling weapons to terrorists to selling assassination plots ?
8 posted on 10/12/2011 7:40:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Blado

I can’t believe people are beliving this BS Iran stuff.

Completely wag-the-dog. ObaMugabe knew for 4 months, then chose THAT day to make this all public.

And it was allll soooooo ham-handed —this was not the mark of terror with a true STATE sponsor.

This stinks to high-heaven —it’s all lies.

I’m not worried about it AT ALL.


9 posted on 10/12/2011 7:41:00 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Blado

Sorry, but IBD is dead-on here. Iran poses an enormous and very clear and present threat. That the current occupant of the white house is ineffectual is yet more part of the problem.


10 posted on 10/12/2011 7:41:24 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Kaslin
We got nothing to worry about with Iran and nukes.

The government no doubt has a super secret program that sends plutonium to Iranian agents so they can track it back to the bomb builders in Iran. /s

11 posted on 10/12/2011 7:43:29 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Kaslin

I seriously fail to believe this bunch anymore. Wag the dog.


12 posted on 10/12/2011 7:43:40 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Kaslin

The Doggie Wag War as history will call it.


13 posted on 10/12/2011 7:44:55 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: gaijin

You’re giving Obama a lot more credit that he could possibly deserve. He’s simply not that good. He couldn’t plan his way out of a wet paper bag, and somehow now he’s some kind of uber-effective evil genius?

LOL... I don’t think so.

Iran really is a serious problem. A bigger problem for us is that we’re stuck with this loser of a CINC at a very critical time.


14 posted on 10/12/2011 7:46:47 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: gaijin

I’m with you. Iran is on easy street right now. Less than two years from getting a nuke and *nobody* is hassling them. Why in the world would they risk doing anything that could bring the heat down on them when they’re so close to becoming untouchable?

And a Mexican drug cartel is going to get involved in assassinating a Saudi ambassador for $1.5 million? That is chump change for them and what possible upside is there to doing it?

It’s all just too implausible.


15 posted on 10/12/2011 7:47:50 PM PDT by kevao
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To: Ramius
There is absolutely nothing the US can do about Iran now. Their nuclear power plant is operational. Something could have been done before the plant was operational (see Israels previous attacks on Iraq and Syria). Now nothing. We all told you that plainly and clearly during the last couple years of GWB’s presidency. If you attack now, you cause a Fukushima and Chernobyl.
16 posted on 10/12/2011 7:51:42 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: kevao
It’s all just too implausible.

Until you consider who's President, who's Attorney General...and the growing prominence of Fast & Furious.

All of a sudden, it's very plausible...

17 posted on 10/12/2011 7:51:48 PM PDT by okie01 (THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: Kaslin

I don’t think a “Wag The Dog” scenario has been totally eliminated. Unfortunately, government people have lied so frequently that people no longer have confidence in them.


18 posted on 10/12/2011 7:54:40 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: Kaslin

Might as well get some practice, kill of a few hundred thousand arabs, they won’t mind, after all they each have 72 virgins in waiting. Invite an
arab leader to the WH, tell him here push this button, watch this screen, and poof Mecca disappears in a nuclear cloud, now this button, and poof Medina, same thing. Repeat as necessary until you run out of poofs.


19 posted on 10/12/2011 7:56:21 PM PDT by Waco (Nominate Palin or forget 2012 you lost)
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To: kevao

Well that assumes that like most underworld the cartels first allegiance is to the bottom line. They know that if they involve themselves with the Iranians it would interfere
with cash flow and bring heat in the form of some very unpleasant actors from our SOFs. So, I’m inclined to consider this a manufactured ‘crisis’ unless a confirmation from an Iranian source is forthcoming.


20 posted on 10/12/2011 8:05:51 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: gaijin

Their nuke program was delayed. They have allll the bad intentions in the world and plenty of dough, but there’s ONE thing they’re lacking —time.

They need time. Time to keep purifying raw material and trying to buy the components they need for a delivery system that isn’t photoShop vaporWare.

Sure, DinnerJacket will shoot off his mouth about NoHolocaust —that’s his thang.

Why with their centrifuges going full tilt would they go and do this? The Western World is slowly but surely sliding into financial ruin, and military budgets are dwindling.

So DinnerJacket has got a couple encouraging tailwinds at his back. Why blow all that right NOW with a very foolhardy, unprofessional job like THIS?

It just does not make sense. They’re dangerous as hell, but for this to be a State Effort requires that they also act with complete stupidity.

On the other hand, what is required for all this to simply add up to a pack of ObamaLies?

Arrogance, of which he has oceans of, and a belief that the idiotic, diversity-loving American people and the credulous Legacy TV networks will hand him cart blanche to do what he wants.

WHICH is more likely...?


21 posted on 10/12/2011 8:06:37 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Kaslin

Unfortunately. the US is relatively toothless compared to our past capabilities. I will reiterate once again that our country will pay for the mistakes of our present leaders with the blood of our children and grandchildren.


22 posted on 10/12/2011 8:11:03 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: gaijin

ham-handed — exactly.

This is the international equivalent of a trailer trash wife putting out the word that she’ll give $500 and a 10-year-old pickup to anyone who knocks off her husband then ends up talking to an undercover cop.

Either Iran is completely incompetent or Obama and Holder are lying.

Or both.


23 posted on 10/12/2011 8:22:30 PM PDT by old3030 (I lost some time once. It's always in the last place you look.)
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To: Kaslin

He needs a War.


24 posted on 10/12/2011 8:25:23 PM PDT by allmost
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To: Kaslin
Saddam tried to assassinate former President Bush and hardly a wimper

Clinton shot off a couple of cruise missiles
25 posted on 10/12/2011 8:34:20 PM PDT by uncbob
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To: Kaslin

How is it the administration has the intelligence to know higher-ups in Iran’s government was behind this plot, yet they expect us to believe the Fast & Furious program (should I say pogrom?? maybe not just yet) is some vague and overlooked operation by who knows who in the DEA, or is it the Justice department? If people can’t see they are being played for fools, then they are fools.


26 posted on 10/12/2011 8:49:30 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Kaslin

Seems to me the target was Saudi Arabia. Isn’t it up to Saudi Arabia to respond? Or do we have a WWI hair-trigger situation where everyone jumps in because of a single assassination?


27 posted on 10/12/2011 8:50:11 PM PDT by AZLiberty (No tag today.)
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To: justa-hairyape

I don’t agree. Iran is a problem, and their fission reactors are only a small part of it. Its not a happy thing that they now have workable reactors, but the bigger problem is their continued work to refine more weapons-grade isotopes. The very minute they have enough plutonium to build a bomb... They’ll use it. Probably on Tel-Aviv.

As Maggie said: “I’m not worried about the madman with a thousand nuclear weapons. I’m worried about the madman that only has one.”


28 posted on 10/12/2011 8:53:06 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: old3030
Or both.

There is actually a third possibility. The FBI was going to use its paid informants to actually carry out the hit. End result. Lots of profit for all the players. Informants get cash. Obama gets his wag the dog. The House of Saud sacrifices one of its many princes to cause the US to fight its number one enemy (Iran). And the Mexican Drug Cartels who could testify against the US in Fast and Furious trials, have visits from spooks and drones. All it would require is one Tim McVeigh type with connections to the Mexican Cartels. And those guys are a dime a dozen around the border. Wonder what caused that whole plan to derail ?

29 posted on 10/12/2011 8:56:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ramius
That was the choice the world made. Lose a few European cities and a few American cities instead of taking on Iran when it could be done. That is a done deal. Just waiting to find out which cities go boom. Was not the choice I wanted to make, but apparently Bush Lied and People Died. After we lose a handful of cities, Iran will be flattened and the world will deal with the resulting radiation for a few hundred years.

Yes, of all the planets in the universe, we were born on the dumbest.

30 posted on 10/12/2011 9:00:37 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: gaijin

I agree with what you wrote, with one exception: What if they already have a nuke or two from their Nork buddies? There is always a surprise from left field.


31 posted on 10/12/2011 9:06:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (I just don't like anything about the President. And I don't think he's a nice guy.)
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To: justa-hairyape

well... Whatever. I don’t happen to think it’s too late to deal with Iran. It’s not too late until that first bright white flash of light.


32 posted on 10/12/2011 9:11:08 PM PDT by Ramius (personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: kevao
And a Mexican drug cartel is going to get involved in assassinating a Saudi ambassador for $1.5 million?

The drug cartel was never involved with this guy. He was talking with an informant. I agree that if the Iranians are smart enough to know that the cartel would not be interested in 1.5 million when they are making billions pushing drugs.

33 posted on 10/12/2011 9:51:15 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Democrats have no superego.)
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To: Ramius; justa-hairyape; Vermont Lt
well... Whatever. I don’t happen to think it’s too late to deal with Iran. It’s not too late until that first bright white flash of light.

Run, Sarah, RUN!!

(as far away from DC as you can get...)

Cheers!

34 posted on 10/12/2011 9:54:52 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: umgud
Some day, we will have to deal with Iran. I don’t much like this, but I sure don’t want to wait until their nuke program matures.

We looked the other way for nearly 10 years when Iran was working to kill our soldiers in Afghanistan and then Iraq. Them trying to kill a Saudi ambassador, even if it's within the US, isn't going to change anything, not if we let them get away with trying to kill our soldiers directly or indirectly.
35 posted on 10/12/2011 11:13:44 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: Kaslin

Rejoice! Your borders are wide open.


36 posted on 10/13/2011 1:14:26 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Blado

“Wag the dog when your reelection chances look bleak.”

Be looking for some “emergency” to suspend elections.


37 posted on 10/13/2011 1:24:53 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: Kaslin

I am convinced the Leaking of this now — was done specifically to draw attention away from the problems Eric Holder has created for DOJ over Fast and Furious. IF it is truly an Iranian plot -they must have been working in concert with the Muslim Brothers in this Administration.If I were CAIR or the ACLU I would be charging the WhiteHouse with creating fiction.For it sounds like it came from DOJ. Could Iran be that stupid— I suppose?


38 posted on 10/13/2011 5:56:34 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: newheart

Alfred E. Newman would be offended by any suggestion that he is Barak Hussein Obama II —but What Me Worry.


39 posted on 10/13/2011 5:58:17 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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