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N.Korea Moves Arms Closer to Border
Chosun Ilbo ^

Posted on 10/13/2011 6:07:14 AM PDT by jhpigott

N.Korea Moves Arms Closer to Border 10/13/11

North Korea has recently moved fighter jets near the Northern Limit Line, the de facto maritime border, and ground-to-air missiles close to Baeknyeong Island. There is speculation that it plans a minor provocation while South Korean president Lee Myung-bak visits the U.S. since any show of unity between the two allies tends to incense the North.

"The North Korean military was seen moving mobile missile launchers at a ground-to-ship missile base near the NLL," a government source said. "There's likelihood that the North will launch a military provocation" while Lee is away.

The government is closely watching movements of North Korean artillery units.

An intelligence source said, "The North Korean Army is showing movements similar to those seen right before it shelled Yeonpyeong Island last year."

Lee was quoted by a source as saying prior to his departure for Washington, "If the North launches a provocation during a Seoul-Washington summit, it will become an international issue rather than a domestic one." He instructed the military to "strongly respond" if the North does.


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KEYWORDS: illegalpyongyangrule; kim; kimjongmentallyill; kookoo; korea; lee; nk; nkorea; northkorea; sk; skorea; southkorea
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Is the Korean peninsula about to get interesting again? The last 2 years around this same time the NORKs have caused trouble in and around the NLL/Yellow Sea.
1 posted on 10/13/2011 6:07:17 AM PDT by jhpigott
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To: MississippiMan; ctdonath2; LibertyRocks; GonzoGOP; b4its2late; bert; maquiladora; hennie pennie; ...

ping


2 posted on 10/13/2011 6:08:09 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott

Probably.


3 posted on 10/13/2011 6:12:05 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

One thing I would keep an eye out for is if Kim or his son take a visit to one of their bases near the NLL. That seems to be their modis operandi before an attack.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 6:13:37 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott

The timing is right for them if they are watching. I think China is hoping N.Korea starts something more than a minor provocation.

We have certainly taken our eye off the ball in that part of Asia for a while. I don’t know what threat NK really poses if things were to escalate. But China’s intervention to rein in N.Korea would solidify China’s position as a “world militay power.”

The US would be to slow to react as we would mull over how to “help” South Korea.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 6:15:32 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: jhpigott
More of clintoon’s and not-so-bright’s gift to America.
6 posted on 10/13/2011 6:15:37 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen. --> AmeriCain)
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To: jhpigott

They are shaking us down for more foreign aid.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 6:15:37 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: jhpigott

The south needs to deal with this despot once and for all. Accept the fact that the next mini-attack by the North will be a trigger for a swift and massive counterattack.

No words or saber rattling, just surprise the hell out of them.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 6:16:07 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: jhpigott

They do this all the time.


9 posted on 10/13/2011 6:16:14 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: jhpigott

They sank a ship, they shelled an island. They know the south won’t do anything short of an all-out attack. Obama would probably still call for restraint. heh.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 6:16:17 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Tenacious 1

Even their army and potemkin villagers are getting really skinny from what I have read. You can imagine that all the regular people are really starving, especially the kobetchi (however that is spelled).

Too bad commies don’t believe in welfare for the poor after they have destroyed all the for-profit enterprises. But, nah, couldn’t happen here. /sarc


11 posted on 10/13/2011 6:20:08 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: VanDeKoik

Do what all the time? Move forces up to the border?

The NORKs have also shown a propsensity the last couple years of actually shooting at S. Korea so I wouldn’t just blow this off as gamesmenship


12 posted on 10/13/2011 6:23:23 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott

Bump


13 posted on 10/13/2011 6:25:23 AM PDT by Just4Him
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To: GeronL

If China were smart, they would simply annex North Korea, by force if necessary. Sounds rediculous right?

The Chinese could get away with it by simply stating, “North Korea was destabilizing the region, treating it’s people bad and developing nuclear weapons irrisponsibly. Something had to be done.”

Suddenly the world would think, “Wow. What a bold and compassionate champion of peice and human rights this new gentler communist nation has become.”

China is on the verge of needing to show some military muscle to match the perception of their financial strength. They are looking for more global influence and that is the way it happens.

With Obama in office and our military in the “less then ready” position it’s in, the timing scares me, strategically.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 6:27:40 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Government For the People - an obviously concealed oxymoron)
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To: jhpigott
Spit Ball Brigades are all they can afford to field.
15 posted on 10/13/2011 6:30:22 AM PDT by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Tenacious 1
Koreans, especially NKs, believe they are a pure race and dislike any claim from China. NK seems to be happy with Chinese aid, however.
16 posted on 10/13/2011 6:31:20 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Genoa; GeronL; TSgt; TigerLikesRooster

South Korean President Lee Myung-bak paid an unprecedented visit to the Pentagon on Wednesday and received a briefing from top American military officials on North Korea and other security issues, the presidential office said.

Lee is the first South Korean president to visit the Pentagon.
http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2011/10/13/0200000000AEN20111013005800315.HTML

got to wonder if this little visit to the Pentagon was connected to the above referenced NK troop movements


17 posted on 10/13/2011 6:38:23 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott

I guess the NORK’s are running low on food again. Time to stir up some trouble to get the West to pledge more shipments if the NORK’s promise to behave.


18 posted on 10/13/2011 7:02:41 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Forced diversity causes dissent!)
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To: jhpigott

Yes.

Every few weeks they are either moving forces, threatening war or some sort of aggressive feint.

After a few weeks, they go right back.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 7:12:01 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: rfreedom4u
I guess the NORK’s are running low on food again. Time to stir up some trouble to get the West to pledge more shipments if the NORK’s promise to behave.

Yep, as predictable as the leaves changing color - and always around the same time of year.

20 posted on 10/13/2011 7:25:27 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

If the old man is finally close to death, then this makes a lot of sense. We’ve often discussed how the son doesn’t seem to have the chops to take over....so the best way to insure a transition is to “stage” a military confrontation....excite the populace...gin up the propaganda effort..


21 posted on 10/13/2011 7:42:09 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: no-to-illegals
More of clintoon’s and not-so-bright’s gift to America.

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22 posted on 10/13/2011 7:49:41 AM PDT by b4its2late ("Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8")
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To: jhpigott

Paging Jimmy Carter...
Paging Jimmy Carter...
only YOU can save us!

(Bush’s fault)


23 posted on 10/13/2011 8:02:30 AM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: jhpigott

If things get interesting on the Korean peninsula, this is a great guy to follow. He was on top of things last year in the wake of the NORK arty attack.

W7VOA Steve Herman
Yonhap — ROK military increases combat readiness after detecting unusual military movement by DPRK forces along tense western sea border.

http://twitter.com/#!/W7VOA


24 posted on 10/13/2011 8:07:56 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott

Isn’t real convenient when our dear leader Obowmao is in deep do-do to have Serious Crisis like this appear on the horizon?


25 posted on 10/13/2011 8:30:07 AM PDT by HammerT (The Obama Recession, you bone it you own it.)
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To: GeronL

zer0 will let his troops go in there with Blue Helmets...

wouldn’t want to man up or anything....beside unilateral action is evil(sarc-o-rama)


26 posted on 10/13/2011 8:41:26 AM PDT by Vaquero ("an armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: GeronL
Even their army and potemkin villagers are getting really skinny from what I have read. You can imagine that all the regular people are really starving

'Malnutrition' is pretty much a given for most children there....stunted growth as a result.... Just read an article the hosptials have begun taking in children who are in the last stages of starvation mode now....sounds like the famine of the 90's might just repeat itself.

After the mass loss of life in the 90's famine Kim praised the people's sacrifice of life for the good of their country. I don't think he stands a chance to "excuse" this from happening again with his people...and many are not buying his reteric these days.

Of recent Kim's diplomates have been engaging the International Community to bring it's northern port into a free trade area...but companies who have investigated there say the infrastructure is so poor or none existant that it's impossible to consider at this time. But it's interesting Kim is even considering opening his country in this way.....though they have been allowing food and product markets as a means of helping the hunger situation, but it's closly monitored.

27 posted on 10/13/2011 8:53:18 AM PDT by caww
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To: Tenacious 1

I wouldn’t be surprised if China eventually covertly sought int’l blessing to ‘occupy’ NK, install a China-friendly puppet, sign a treaty with SK, reform (disarm) the Nork military, and then essentially run it like Manchuria. Depends on when the PRC needs the underutilized resources and the unspoiled land for dachas.


28 posted on 10/13/2011 10:16:18 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (/)
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To: jhpigott

They are just trying to get themselves noticed while Lee is in the US.

I think if they were really planning on doing something they wouldn’t be so overt and obvious with their movements.


29 posted on 10/13/2011 10:37:13 AM PDT by maquiladora
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To: maquiladora

most likely

but another provacation is coming - just a matter of where and when


30 posted on 10/13/2011 10:51:11 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: Genoa

Bingo!

That’s what it’s always about, isn’t it?


31 posted on 10/13/2011 10:53:20 AM PDT by CPO retired
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To: jhpigott

The North Koreans are just posturing to score a bag of rice. If they make war they are through and they know it.


32 posted on 10/13/2011 10:54:25 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: jhpigott

Global Security Newswire picking up on Korean sources -

North Korea Seen Shifting Weapons Closer to South
Thursday, Oct. 13, 2011

North Korea has shifted some of its warplanes and missiles closer to its heavily militarized boundary line with South Korea, the Yonhap News Agency reported on Wednesday (see GSN, Oct. 12).

A South Korean official said the Stalinist state had moved ground-to-air missiles to an area not far from the South’s Baengyeong Island and fielded an unspecified quantity of fighter planes at a forward-operating base close to the two nations’ sea border. Portable launchpads were also seen moved at a land-to-sea missile installation.

The detected movements are not unlike those observed just before North Korea fired on South Korea’s populated Yeonpyeong Island last November — an attack that killed four people.

The South Korean military has heightened its monitoring of the maritime boundary and ordered an increased state of readiness for army, naval and air forces, officials said.

http://gsn.nti.org/gsn/nw_20111013_7236.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


33 posted on 10/13/2011 11:09:41 AM PDT by jhpigott (North Korea - The land of lousy options)
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To: jhpigott
It's clear the world sees a power vacuum.

Weakness in DC.

34 posted on 10/13/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: jhpigott

The N. Koreans coordinate with the Iranians.


35 posted on 10/13/2011 2:16:22 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Tenacious 1

I had a better idea. The Chinese would engineer a “coup” in NK but the new guy in charge would say it was “put down” after the Kims were killed. He would say they were “mopping up and finding all those involved in the ‘coup’ while killing the biggest supporters of the Kims in government and military.

It would be a deal between China and SK. Both benefit from getting rid of the crazy Kims. The new NK would give all their nuclear material and arms to China (yes, slowly demilitarize the whole dang country) while in time NK and SK would unite, something SK cannot financially afford at one bite. In exchange the SK would kick out the US/UN forces on the border and announce that NK ‘area’ would always and forever remain demilitarized, except for Coast Guard and a token border force along the Yalu River.

China gets a peaceful, prosperous trading partner on its border and gets the US troops out. (maybe a token naval base on the far southern tip of SK would be allowed for the US)

I bet China has spies and at least one top General inside the NK government that could stage such a coup-counter coup-coup given some time.


36 posted on 10/13/2011 2:35:36 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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Thanks jhpigott.


37 posted on 10/13/2011 6:18:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Bump! I wonder if Dear Leader’s health is getting worse and if that could be a factor in this?


38 posted on 10/13/2011 6:20:10 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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To: jhpigott

S. Korea should move food closer to the border.


39 posted on 10/13/2011 6:31:33 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Tenacious 1
Trust me, if China decides it want to show some "military muscle," it will not be against NK. China has no incentive whatsoever to upset the status quo on the Korean peninsula. They benefit from propping up the NK regime so the population is policed from the Korean side. Expecting anything but stringent self-interest from China is a fantasy.
40 posted on 10/13/2011 6:55:15 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: maquiladora
It is difficult to mobilize troops and materiel without being overt and obvious. Historically, offensives have been launched from "training maneuvers" close to a border. These exercises have been traditional covers for preparations for war, in full view.

That having been said, the NK's are masters of the feint because the fact is, they can't stand up against SK more than a week or so.

41 posted on 10/13/2011 7:01:34 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Texas Eagle

Moving food closer might cause the largest border stampede in history.


42 posted on 10/13/2011 7:30:14 PM PDT by rdl6989 (January 20, 2013 The end of an error.)
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43 posted on 10/13/2011 8:07:46 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Wrong season for starting a war. If it were mid March, I’d say “Look out”.


44 posted on 10/14/2011 6:41:10 AM PDT by wrench
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To: rdl6989
Moving food closer might cause the largest border stampede in history.

Second largest. Have you already forgotten Occupied Wall Street?

45 posted on 10/14/2011 7:01:06 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: wrench
There ain't gonna be no steenking war.

NorKo is just agitating for some of Obama's stash.

Just like Iran.

These guys are experts at shaking Homey The President down.

46 posted on 10/14/2011 7:59:40 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: jhpigott

I believe this is connected to the current issues with Iran right now. When/if we move on Iran, NK may well plan on moving south to aid their buddies.


47 posted on 10/14/2011 9:21:11 AM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: GeronL

In NK, the greedy corporations get all the food.


48 posted on 10/14/2011 11:15:58 PM PDT by seton89 (Starve the Beast)
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To: wrench
That too. Good point.
49 posted on 10/15/2011 10:14:58 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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5 posted on Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:15:32 AM by Tenacious 1: “We have certainly taken our eye off the ball in that part of Asia for a while. I don’t know what threat NK really poses if things were to escalate. But China’s intervention to rein in N.Korea would solidify China’s position as a “world militay power.” The US would be to slow to react as we would mull over how to “help” South Korea.”

The North Koreans make threats regularly. Sometimes they shoot. Usually they're trying to get shakedown money. Fortunately, if things get bad, the South Korean military is quite capable of taking care of itself without American help.

As my Korean niece's US Army recruiter said when she found out that my niece's father was in the South Korean Special Forces: “Those guys are bad-ass dudes!”

South Korea needs the United States as a guarantee against China. North Korea can cause major devastation, and the Kim dynasty is so crazy they might actually start a war, but what the North starts, the South can finish, with or without America.

50 posted on 10/15/2011 7:43:33 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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