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Cain Leapfrogs Romney to Vault to Lead in Poll
Cain Leapfrogs Romney to Vault to Lead in Poll Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/1 ^ | 10-13-11 | Fox News

Posted on 10/13/2011 6:53:22 AM PDT by MNJohnnie

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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Which state do you live in? Are you knocking on doors and making phone calls?

John McCain won because the establishment picked him over Mitt Romney and not because some people at grass roots level suddenly vaulted him into victory.


41 posted on 10/13/2011 8:05:36 AM PDT by tirednvirginia
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Nice except for the sneering Slick Willard. I’d ‘shop him out with the stars and stripes or something. :)


42 posted on 10/13/2011 8:06:12 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
Why so much negativity toward Cain on FR???

Because we've looked at his 999 plan and don't like it.

Very detrimentally to retirees and small business owners.

And instituting a national sales tax on top of our present state and local sales taxes is a vote killer. It almost guarantees Obama's re-election IMO.

We need spending cuts NOT tax increases.

Loved Herman Cain before he started talking about 999.

Beware the rule of unintended consequences.

43 posted on 10/13/2011 8:12:50 AM PDT by Texan
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To: tirednvirginia

I live in South Carolina. The most conservative part of SC, in fact. The area you have to carry if you want grassroots conservative support behind you.

Trust me, Cain is ALL anyone is talking about here. Perry had his chance to shine and blew it. He was doing quite well, though I was already making headway on educating people about his record when he started his implosion.

Cain has also been doing retail politicking here for quite a while now, while Perry has been sending his wife instead.

John McCain won because the grassroots efforts were split between Huckabee and Thompson.

If you think there’s going to be a real grassroots movement behind a cronyist like Perry, you have another thing coming. He was always on borrowed time until people found out about his record.


44 posted on 10/13/2011 8:13:44 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: Texan

There are parts of 9-9-9 that I don’t like and don’t support, but that doesn’t mean I don’t like Cain.

Hucksters like Slick Willard and La Raza Rick, not so much.


45 posted on 10/13/2011 8:15:48 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: GilGil

Remember the inevitable Guiliani-Clinton presidential race of 2008?

The media doesn’t comprehend the Tea Party revolution. Why, no Republican can win Ted Kennedy’s seat; Pat Toomey is too conservative for PA; A GOP win in the NY Schumer/Weiner seat-inconceivable;...etc


46 posted on 10/13/2011 8:21:13 AM PDT by almcbean
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To: perfect_rovian_storm
I think Cain will do very well (might even win) in Iowa and SC. He's on a roll. However I can't imagine he'll do well in either NH or FL. Why would a state which has no income tax OR state sales tax vote to tax themselves like that. And why would a state full of retirees vote for someone whose 999 plan would hurt them like it would.

But people like to vote for a "winner" so emotionalism might overrule the brain.

47 posted on 10/13/2011 8:29:06 AM PDT by Texan
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To: MNJohnnie

PTL!


48 posted on 10/13/2011 8:43:44 AM PDT by ken21
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

08? Look you either don’t follow that bootlicker that closely or you have a terrible memory.

Try 03 when during the CA recall election he backed Ahnold the RINO and attacked the much more capable conservative Rep. McClintock.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=20949

Not ringing any bells? How about in 05 with his disgusting shilling for Dubya’s pick for the Supreme Court; Harriet Miers - an patently obvious unfit candidate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/28/opinion/28hewitt.html


49 posted on 10/13/2011 8:48:06 AM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: KantianBurke

I stand corrected. I find the man incredibly boring to listen to, so I didn’t really listen to anything other than his shameless Romney pimping.


50 posted on 10/13/2011 8:50:08 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Perry's idea of border control: Use both hands to welcome the illegals right in)
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To: MNJohnnie
>>>>>>I think there is a real emotional attachment for Gov Perry.

For some of his supporters there is an emotional attachment to Perry. You should know all about that. You've had a serious emotional attachment to Palin for years. Now that she is out you've moved to drooling over Herman Cain. LOL

I like Herman Cain, but he's a complete political neophyte. Cain has zero executive governing experience and zero political experience. If that flips your switch then Cain is your main man.

Cain's 999 tax plan is nothing more than a gimmick. It expands the federal tax system by adding a national sales tax to the mix. We conservatives don't want more tax options that liberals could use as a tool of social engineering and class warfare. No thanks. Cain's Chilean plan to reform SocSec is another political ploy that will never see the light of day. Cain's choice of an Alan Greenspan clone to head the FedReserve is not a sound decision based on good judgment. Cain's position on abortion is very disturbing. While Cain believes life begins at conception, he also believes the federal government has no role to play in whether a woman gets an abortion or not.

Lets start vetting Herman Cain. Most conservative are riding an emotional wave with Cain right now. My guess is that won't last and with Perry stuck in neutral, it looks like the phony and fraud, the liberal statist, Willard M. Romney is going to take the nomination.

51 posted on 10/13/2011 9:05:55 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Reagan Man
Perhaps you care to explain to all the polling that shows Romney destroying Perry but losing to Cain.

Nice try but the only Romney stalking horse in this race is Perry

52 posted on 10/13/2011 9:10:40 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: MNJohnnie
>>>>>Nice try but the only Romney stalking horse in this race is Perry/.

LMAO I always knew you were an emotional wreck, but that reply proves you're an idiot to boot.

53 posted on 10/13/2011 9:18:18 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: Texan
I think Cain will do very well (might even win) in Iowa and SC. He's on a roll. However I can't imagine he'll do well in either NH or FL. Why would a state which has no income tax OR state sales tax vote to tax themselves like that.

Do people in NH or FL not pay federal income taxes or am I missing something?
54 posted on 10/13/2011 12:57:42 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: af_vet_rr
Why would a state which has no income tax OR state sales tax vote to tax themselves like that.

No, of course they both do (have income tax). I did a poor job of saying it

. What I was trying to say was that "Live Free or Die" NH, wouldn't likely vote themselves a sales tax since they didn't have one. And FL (with it's many retirees) wouldn't want another sales tax on top of what they had already.

Thanks for giving me a chance to clarify.

55 posted on 10/13/2011 2:45:57 PM PDT by Texan
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