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Obama's perilous "Hiroshima" gambit
The New York Post ^ | October 12, 2011 | Arthur Herman

Posted on 10/13/2011 8:06:10 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX

Obama's perilous "Hiroshima" gambit!!!

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abombapology; hiroshima; japan; obama
An apology by anti American POTUS Barack Hussein Obama for the USA dropping the Atomic Bomb on Japan ending WWII.
1 posted on 10/13/2011 8:06:17 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

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2 posted on 10/13/2011 8:08:46 AM PDT by Francis McClobber
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3 posted on 10/13/2011 8:09:48 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

bad link


4 posted on 10/13/2011 8:14:51 AM PDT by perchprism (To those about to revolt, we salute you.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Nothing seems to be working for this idiot and as the days go by he finds himself surrounded by more idiots and more trouble.

My guess is the whole Iranian assassination plot was made up to deflect attention. Problem there is he’s to chicken shxt to do anything about it anyway.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 8:17:38 AM PDT by maddog55 (OBAMA: Why stupid people shouldn't vote.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Folks, if you go to NewYorkPost.com and type in the name Arthur Herman, his article will come up. I would comment on it, but.....the man says it all. Just two items for your info: Of the totall number of prisoners of war taken prisoner by the Japanese only 25% were returned living at the time of the Japanese surrender. And.....the invasion of Japan by allied forces would have sustained and estimated 500,000 to 1,000, 000 American deaths. Obama knows nothing of the sacrifice and suffering of millions because of the Japanese invasions in the Far East!!! Actually Obama knows nothing of American or World history!!! Even the current leaders of Japan think he is not wrapped too tight!!!


6 posted on 10/13/2011 8:17:38 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Try this link: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/obama_perilous_hiroshima_gambit_Qw0ioyAVubxdA9zSLpsF2H


7 posted on 10/13/2011 8:19:48 AM PDT by Yankee (Welcome to Obama's Fourth Reich.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Here’s the article:

http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/opedcolumnists/obama_perilous_hiroshima_gambit_Qw0ioyAVubxdA9zSLpsF2H


8 posted on 10/13/2011 8:21:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

The Japanese started it, we finished it, end of story.
The Japanese have not, to my knowledge, ever apologized for the “Rape of Nanking”, the Bataan Death March, or any of their other death marches or mistreatment of Civian and Military prisoners, nor have they said “Sorry” for Pearl Harbor.
The POTUS is an embarassment, someone needs to apologize for HIM!


9 posted on 10/13/2011 8:23:47 AM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: maddog55

Nothing works for this idiot because his world-view is not based on reality. I may believe I can fly like Peter Pan, but when I jump off that building, reality will hit.

Obama has the narrowest of outlooks - that of an urban, American-leftist dilettante.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 8:27:10 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Obama's perilous "Hiroshima" gambit!!!

A ruse - probably to get your focus/interest away from the Holder demise on Fast and Furious.....

11 posted on 10/13/2011 8:28:05 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Yankee

Thanks for the correct posting!!!


12 posted on 10/13/2011 8:37:08 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: Former Dodger
The Japanese have not, to my knowledge, ever apologized for the “Rape of Nanking”, the Bataan Death March, or any of their other death marches or mistreatment of Civian and Military prisoners, nor have they said “Sorry” for Pearl Harbor.

if you read stories of POW's in Japanese prison camps, it was clear Japan was getting ready to execute all US prisoners when the bombs were dropped - there are thousands that survived only because of the sudden surrender by Japan. It is obvious that Obama is still obsessed with an anti-nuclear, circa-1982 protestor mindset. The man is an out-of-date joke.

13 posted on 10/13/2011 8:37:23 AM PDT by ghost of nixon
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To: Cicero

Thanks, for the correct posting info.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 8:38:07 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
I may get flamed for this, but here goes.

We did the Japanese a favor. Hear me out.

The Japanese were ready to defend their country to the last man, woman, and child. They proved it throughout the war. Look at what the civilians did on Saipan. Mothers throwing their babies off a cliff and jumping after them to get away from the Americans.

For us to conquer Japan would have been the virtual extinction of the Japanese race.

So dropping the bombs and shocking them into surrendering was really a humane act.

15 posted on 10/13/2011 8:42:40 AM PDT by fredhead (I'm not sleeping, I'm checking my eyelids for cracks.)
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"First, we have a Japanese government with a stronger sense of America’s interests, and our honor and self respect, than our own president -- a president who sought to apologize for using a weapon that ended the most violent and brutal war in history.

A president who is either ignorant or blind to the fact that if we hadn’t used the bomb and had been forced to invade Japan instead, at least 2 million Japanese would have died in a full-scale invasion of Japan, instead of the 300,000 killed at Hiroshima and Nagasaki -- not to mention the 1 million US casualties that the War Department and Joint Chiefs of Staff calculated would come in that assault."

Idiot Compassion (The Buddhist view of liberal compassion)

0bungles is an idiot!

16 posted on 10/13/2011 8:43:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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FROM THE ARTICLE:
“And a president who thinks that such groveling is the way to build good relations with an Asian ally — when a far better way passed him right by.

That came last March, after the worst disaster to hit Japan since the Second World War. The biggest earthquake in the country’s history and follow-up tsunami left 28,000 Japanese killed or missing, triggered a near-disastrous nuclear accident and shattered its economy. Japan was left feeling stunned and helpless and alone, as it contemplated the worst destruction since Hiroshima.

This was the moment when our president should have ordered up Air Force One and flown out to Tokyo, in order to tour the damage with the US media and to reassure the Japanese people that America stood shoulder to shoulder with our 50-year Asian ally. Then he could have offered immediate help in getting US companies involved in the reconstruction of Japan, which will be going on for years — a not-to-be-missed opportunity to help our economy, as well as Japan’s.

But Obama largely ignored the disaster, and went to a conference in Rio de Janeiro, instead —...”

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What a POS for a president. At the time I remember thinking that there was no way in hell President Bush would have ignored our friends the way this POS did. On a side note: It's interesting that in addition to their self-interests, the Japanese refused the apology to keep us, as a nation, from embarrassment. The marxist has successfully alienated or tried to alienate our allies all the while groveling to the barbarians.

17 posted on 10/13/2011 8:45:43 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (HANK 2012)
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To: TigersEye
I think that the 1 million casualty figure was just for Operation Olympic, the invasion of Honshu, in November, 1945. The follow on invasion of the main island (Operation Coronet) scheduled for Spring, 1946, would have been substantially higher.
18 posted on 10/13/2011 9:02:38 AM PDT by catman67
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To: catman67

Good source below:

http://www.history.army.mil/books/wwii/macarthur%20reports/macarthur%20v1/ch13.htm


19 posted on 10/13/2011 9:06:37 AM PDT by catman67
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To: Outlaw Woman

Yeah, because the Japanese offended Obama by not letting him do what he wanted.

Meanwhile, as the article notes, an incalculable opportunity to boost our economy while standing alongside a long time ally went to total waste.

All because the petulant 2 year old was offended.


20 posted on 10/13/2011 9:08:26 AM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever.)
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To: catman67
As would have been the Japanese casualties as well.

In the context of war the only compassionate acts of war are ones that end the war as quickly and efficiently as possible IMO.

21 posted on 10/13/2011 9:18:52 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

I always figure that if we would have lost a million lives invading Japan, they would have lost at least 4 million, instead of the paltry hundred thousand they lost in the abomb attacks, so you’d think they’d be THANKING us. That’s what you’d think.


22 posted on 10/13/2011 9:21:31 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Nuts; A house divided against itself cannot stand.)
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To: TigersEye

True enough, but I have had the privelege of knowing several vets who were the receipients of Japanese hospatility during WWII. So, in that context, Japanese casulties were not a concern of mine.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 9:24:35 AM PDT by catman67
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To: catman67

66 years after the fact, no casualties are a concern of mine now. The questions 0bama raises about guilt and shame with his foolish intention to apologize for actions taken over a half a century ago can only be answered by taking into account the whole picture. When you do that he looks like an even bigger idiot.


24 posted on 10/13/2011 9:32:11 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: atc23

It’s all by design...all intentional


25 posted on 10/13/2011 11:01:39 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (HANK 2012)
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To: ghost of nixon

Ghost Soldiers by Hampton Sides covered the raid to free American prisoners before the Japanese murdered them, a story made into the film “The Great Raid”.

Not an excuse, but as way of explanation, the Samurai code spoke of total obedience to the Emperor, and that to surrender was not an option. Those who surrendered were already “less than nothing” in the eyes of the Emperor cult so killing them meant nothing. Sounds kind of like a certain other “cult” that we are facing today...


26 posted on 10/13/2011 11:52:55 AM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: TigersEye
I have read that the American POWs would have been killed when the US had invaded the home islands. (I know one of them personally--still alive at 92 or 93.) My father would have had a good chance of being one of the Americans killed in the invasion. He never doubted that using the bombs was the right decision.

This was all about Obama getting to preen--looks like this was before he knew he was going to be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for his great achievement of not being George W. Bush.

27 posted on 10/13/2011 3:51:58 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

No doubts about any of that.


28 posted on 10/13/2011 3:57:20 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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