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Paul Ryan ‘loves’ Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 tax plan
Daily Caller ^ | 10/13/11 | Joe Rossomando

Posted on 10/13/2011 11:06:31 AM PDT by justsaynomore

House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan says he “loves” presidential candidate Herman Cain’s signature “9-9-9″ tax plan.

Ryan told The Daily Caller in an exclusive interview that Cain’s plan shows the GOP presidential campaign season has entered into a more advanced stage where ideas — not just personalities — have come to the forefront.

“We need more bold ideas like this because it is specific and credible,” Ryan said. “I’m more of a flat-tax kind of a guy.”

The budget chairman went on to say that ideas like Cain’s plan could help shape the debate over tax reform moving into 2013.

“It’s great to see such bold ideas,” Ryan told TheDC.

Commenting on the sniping among the candidates and their criticism directed at Cain’s plan, Ryan said the entire process would make the eventual GOP nominee stronger going into the general election. Contacted by TheDC on Thursday, Herman Cain’s campaign was appreciative for the unexpected endorsement.

“I consider Paul Ryan to be one of the brightest minds in Washington, D.C.,” said Mark Block, Cain’s chief of staff, “and for Congressman Ryan to embrace 9-9-9 shows that he also has the leadership to give the American public bold solutions for our current crisis. Mr. Cain looks forward to sitting down with Congressman Ryan.

“Dr. Art Laffer also wrote a piece praising 9-9-9, so you have two of the most respected people that are dealing with economics in America praising 9-9-9,” Block added. “That … speaks for itself.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/10/13/paul-ryan-loves-herman-cains-9-9-9-tax-plan/#ixzz1agZ25tf3


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 112th; 2012endorsements; 999; freemarket; hermancain; markblock; paulryan; wellwellwell
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1 posted on 10/13/2011 11:06:38 AM PDT by justsaynomore
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To: justsaynomore

Awesome. The Cain Train is building momentum!


2 posted on 10/13/2011 11:07:33 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: K-oneTexas; Tucker822; Kartographer; freekitty; carmody; Dead Corpse; MsLady; Publius772000; ...

Pinganator!

Polls: With Cain Gone, Romney Would DESTROY Perry
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2792199/posts

Don’t Sleep on Herman Cain
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnzogby/2011/10/12/dont-sleep-on-herman-cain/


3 posted on 10/13/2011 11:08:03 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

With the primaries moved up so early it will soon be time for conservatives to make their choices. The menu is set. One of these candidates will be our nominee. If not Herman Cain, then who?


4 posted on 10/13/2011 11:09:49 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: justsaynomore

After the IRS is abolished I will gladly accept 999.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 11:10:17 AM PDT by bicyclerepair ( REPLACE D-W-S ! http://www.karenforcongress.com)
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To: lonevoice

And the Hermancain is gathering strength. It must be about a category 3 now.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 11:10:27 AM PDT by Pride in the USA
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To: justsaynomore

Megyn Kelly just highlighted an airline (not sure which one)

*9-9-9 Taking off! Fares advertised for $9*

She seemed quite happy about it.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 11:10:57 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you)
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To: Brookhaven; SeekAndFind; Donnafrflorida; Marie

You are not on the HC ping list but I thought you’d want to see this :-)


8 posted on 10/13/2011 11:11:05 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore

First Art Laffer, now Paul Ryan.

Now that some serious heavyweight conservative economic guys have come out in favor of the 9-9-9 plan, can we start having a serious dicussion of the plan’s MERITS instead of just slinging will accusations?


9 posted on 10/13/2011 11:11:16 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: justsaynomore

“Paul Ryan ‘loves’ Herman Cain’s 9-9-9 tax plan”

Now that right there would be one heck of an endorsement.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 11:11:56 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: justsaynomore

That’s good enough for me.


11 posted on 10/13/2011 11:13:13 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain!)
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Spirit Airlines - more here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2792278/posts


12 posted on 10/13/2011 11:13:20 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you)
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To: justsaynomore

“Mark Block, Cain’s chief of staff”

Wait...you mean Cain HAS a chief of staff? Why, that would hint that he has a STAFF! Here I’ve been told (right here on FR) that Cain has no organization at all.

Guess another anti-Cain meme is getting shot down.


13 posted on 10/13/2011 11:13:53 AM PDT by Grunthor (Heartless Bigot for Cain.)
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To: justsaynomore; Huck
Wow Huck, first Art Laffer and now Paul Ryan.

I guess that means that you will be finding some way to throw crap on these two liberals.

It's a VAT tax, it's a VAT tax, it's a VAT tax...blah, blah, blah...

Huck, want to reconsider your VAT tax posting on other blogs?

14 posted on 10/13/2011 11:14:05 AM PDT by USS Alaska
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To: rogue yam

Those that wand Romney need to keep one thing in mind. During the last debates, I believe, Romney stated that he believes that humans are having an impact on global warming and this needs to be addressed. If he actually believes this, then he will keep the EPA as it is with all its regulations. This is going to cost the American tax payer.


15 posted on 10/13/2011 11:14:05 AM PDT by RC2
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To: justsaynomore

“House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan says he “loves” presidential candidate Herman Cain’s signature “9-9-9” tax plan.

Dr. Art Laffer also wrote a piece praising 9-9-9, so you have two of the most respected people that are dealing with economics in America praising 9-9-9,”

RINOS! SQUAWK! RINOS!


16 posted on 10/13/2011 11:14:41 AM PDT by Magic Fingers
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To: justsaynomore

At least Cain has a plan. Perry and Romney have been stuck using focus group tested and GOP Establishment approved platitudes.


17 posted on 10/13/2011 11:15:04 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: bicyclerepair

IRS is not needed after 999. The tax form will be the size of a post card.


18 posted on 10/13/2011 11:15:28 AM PDT by federal__reserve (Economy on life support needs a revolutionary tax plan, not fiddle around the edges!)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Art Laffer, now Paul Ryan?

Hmmm... I wonder what Milton Friedman would have thought of this...

Maybe we should ask now Steve Forbes ( the one who first ran under the flat tax banner )...


19 posted on 10/13/2011 11:16:15 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: sodpoodle

freeped of course...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2792278/posts


20 posted on 10/13/2011 11:18:31 AM PDT by Fred (But we are never going to survive unless we get a little crazy)
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To: justsaynomore
House Budget Committee chairman Paul Ryan says he “loves” presidential candidate Herman Cain’s signature “9-9-9″ tax plan.

That's an endorsement that matters to me. Ryan has a good mind, he's spent a lot of time thinking about the economic situation we're in and he's put forth some very interesting ideas himself.
21 posted on 10/13/2011 11:19:09 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: justsaynomore

That’s good enough for me. Now if we could just get id of Romney........

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=354721


22 posted on 10/13/2011 11:19:47 AM PDT by Paperdoll (I like Herman Cain!)
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To: Pride in the USA
And the Hermancain is gathering strength. It must be about a category 3 now.

I think it's more like Cat 4. Already I'm seeing the sea dotted with whitecaps and thin cirrus clouds are scudding across the sky. Time for liberals to batten down the hatches.

23 posted on 10/13/2011 11:19:52 AM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: justsaynomore; All
Please .... what am I missing? What is it about the addition of a new national tax on EVERYTHING we purchase that has conservatives jumping for joy?

Does anyone really believe that “9-9-9-” won't become 50-50-50 during our children's lifetime? And if you do believe, please tell me why— because I desperately want to feel the joy too.

Thanks.

24 posted on 10/13/2011 11:21:39 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Grunthor

LOL, no kidding! He’s had a staff, and Mark Block has been his Chief of Staff since early this year. And he has over 100,000 volunteers, with organizers in every state (and has since this spring). His communications director is now JD Gordon (one time Rumsfeld/Pentagon spokesman)

I never even bothered to respond to those accusations about staff because they were just comical.


25 posted on 10/13/2011 11:23:09 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Servant of the Cross

All aboard!


26 posted on 10/13/2011 11:23:09 AM PDT by therightliveswithus
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Our current tax code could become 90% tomorrow. So, what’s your point?


27 posted on 10/13/2011 11:23:49 AM PDT by nesnah
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To: Right_in_Virginia

The same thing that keeps them raising them now.

THE TAXPAYERS. Only this time, EVERYONE pays taxes and everyone SEES the taxes. No more sneak-a-tax


28 posted on 10/13/2011 11:25:19 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Does anyone really believe that “9-9-9-” won't become 50-50-50 during our children's lifetime?

If it were that easy, then just what is preventing the government from instituting a national sales tax -- or even a VAT -- right now and jacking it up to 50%, 75%, 100%? Why didn't Zero, Reid and Pelosi do it when they had all the power during 2008-2010?

29 posted on 10/13/2011 11:25:38 AM PDT by kevao
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To: SamAdams76

***Time for liberals to batten down the hatches.***

Shhhhhhhhhh - don’t tell ‘em;)


30 posted on 10/13/2011 11:25:49 AM PDT by sodpoodle (God is ignoring me - because He is watching you)
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To: justsaynomore

I never thought I’d see the media working so hard to promote Newt, but Cain has them wetting their pants. I love it.


31 posted on 10/13/2011 11:26:46 AM PDT by pallis
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To: bicyclerepair

With 999 I would think the IRS will be adding staff, not reducing it. If nothing else we would have more people paying federal income taxes and a whole new federal sales tax to administer. I’m not against 999, but we would be throwing out the existing tax code not the IRS.)


32 posted on 10/13/2011 11:27:30 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: kevao
Why didn't Zero, Reid and Pelosi do it when they had all the power during 2008-2010?

They didn't have the blueprint in place---with "9-9-9-" they will.

Big difference.

33 posted on 10/13/2011 11:29:56 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: justsaynomore
I'm glad it is being discussed. It is an idea worth discussing. However, it is not currently a doable or passable (in congress) plan; it is only a good starting point for discussion. Cain's demeanor, candidness, genuineness is what I like about him...not his 999 plan. The plan is getting him temporary notice....but he needs more than a “catchy” sounding plan to win an election. I fear he will become a one trick pony.
34 posted on 10/13/2011 11:31:23 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: nesnah
Our current tax code could become 90% tomorrow. So, what’s your point?

I agree--our tax percent could change tomorrow--which is exactly why I do not want to add ANOTHER tax without really thinking through what we're all getting so darned excited about.

35 posted on 10/13/2011 11:32:35 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Right_in_Virginia
Does anyone really believe that “9-9-9-” won't become 50-50-50 during our children's lifetime?

very simple...

The-Laffer-Curve-Past-Present-and-Future

Why wouldn't you be jumping for joy, with someone who wants to cut taxes and government spending?

and if you believe that 9-9-9 could possibly jump to 50-50-50, then why don't you think that our current tax rates won't jump to 150%? ;-)
36 posted on 10/13/2011 11:32:42 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brookhaven; justsaynomore
... can we start having a serious dicussion of the plan’s MERITS instead of just slinging will accusations?

I wish that would happen, but I'm afraid that a fairly substantial portion of FReepers can not or will not see how they are paying for our massive and impossibly complex tax code. They can't see the 35% corporate taxes on their receipts. The crony loopholes that prevent fair competition and force prices higher don't give them a monthly statement. The crushing payroll taxes are such a part of life that they can't visualize life without that burden.

All they envision is 9% added to their grocery bill. I think many of them are living on Social Security or other fixed incomes and are afraid. I understand that. That is the same fear that will spread 24/7 if Cain gets the nomination. Every retiree or welfare recipient will be inundated with stories of how they will be starved and evicted.

I like Herman Cain a lot and his plan makes sense. I'm all for leveling the playing field for the first time in a century. I think it would cause an economic explosion that would leave China, Russia and the EU begging to pick up our scraps.

But if he's going to run with this as his central theme he needs to start a massive campaign to educate people in very simple terms. Even then our beloved country may be too far gone. Look at how many people here on FreeRepublic will defend the statist progressive tax code to death and support candidates who bury their heads and refuse to face the coming Tsunami.

37 posted on 10/13/2011 11:33:04 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: justsaynomore

Cain Nomination:

If Herman Cain is nominated, it will be a seismic shift in voter demographics. Gone for ever will be the solid 95% black vote the Democrats depend on, gone for ever will be talking points of liberals that Republicans are racists, and even better, we will have nominated the most conservative candidate who is not a life long politician and has no political baggage, is likable, has actually run a business successfully. Not a perfect candidate, but significantly better than others.


38 posted on 10/13/2011 11:33:22 AM PDT by federal__reserve (Economy on life support needs a revolutionary tax plan, not fiddle around the edges!)
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To: Average Al

The 999 is a 1-2 year bridge to the Fair Tax which abolishes the IRS/16th amendment.


39 posted on 10/13/2011 11:33:55 AM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: justsaynomore
The same thing that keeps them raising them now. THE TAXPAYERS. Only this time, EVERYONE pays taxes and everyone SEES the taxes. No more sneak-a-tax

Of course---that'll work. Kinda like no nationally mandated and designed health care.

Thanks. I will sleep well tonight.

40 posted on 10/13/2011 11:36:20 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: USS Alaska
“Huck, want to reconsider your VAT tax posting on other blogs?”

LOL! That's the nice things said by Huck about Cain. The thing I seen him say yesterday started with the letter “F”, and second word with a “U”. And I thought ole pissant was bad with his attacks on Palin. Huck has him beat hands down.

41 posted on 10/13/2011 11:40:02 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: Brookhaven
First Art Laffer, now Paul Ryan. Steve Forbes too.
42 posted on 10/13/2011 11:40:11 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Is there an alternative plan being proposed you favor, or do you favor the status quo? Not being combative, I’m genuinely curious. I’m intrigued by Cain’s plan because it does appear to “standardize” taxes across all levels and make it much more difficult for all the hidden taxes we get now.


43 posted on 10/13/2011 11:40:27 AM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: justsaynomore

Yes, the 999 plan may have issues, but what’s important is that we are talking about nixing the current system. We have been needing a candidate who will not back down from a plan to fundamentally change the terrible tax code we now suffer from. Flat tax, Fair Tax, 999 Plan...what matters is to bring to the attention of the country the fact that we CAN change this code. It is not written in stone somewhere.


44 posted on 10/13/2011 11:41:08 AM PDT by mtrott
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To: justsaynomore

Even a Fair Tax has to be collected by some agency.


45 posted on 10/13/2011 11:41:29 AM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Get on board the Cain Train

46 posted on 10/13/2011 11:43:27 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Right_in_Virginia

Visible taxes, especially those imposed on everyone, are much harder to raise. Not impossible, but much more difficult than raising hidden taxes, or taxes that only affect a small voting block.

The comparison to health care is not a valid one. The costs of such a system are not as easily grasped for those not paying attention, and for those who don’t have basic understanding of how an economy works. (Even with this ignorance, the passage of hc came at a tremendous political price) But a visible tax is understood, and felt, very easily.

Also, this would replace the existing tax system, not imposed on top of it, so objections on the basis of “not another tax” are not valid, either.

Could it end up as 50-50-50? In theory, yes. But in practice, not nearly as likely as large-scale increases in existing taxes (since those are only paid by a small few, or are very well hidden).


47 posted on 10/13/2011 11:43:42 AM PDT by jjsheridan5
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To: Right_in_Virginia
They didn't have the blueprint in place---with "9-9-9-" they will.

They didn't have a blueprint in place for ObamaCare either....

48 posted on 10/13/2011 11:43:51 AM PDT by kevao
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To: Right_in_Virginia
I agree--our tax percent could change tomorrow--which is exactly why I do not want to add ANOTHER tax without really thinking through what we're all getting so darned excited about.

Consider that the 999 plan ELIMINATES a revenue stream also--the payroll tax, so it adds one and eliminates one.

And the payroll tax is a hidden tax, in that half of it is paid behind the scenes and never seen by the employee.

Didn't you find it strange that when the temporarily lowered the payroll tax to "stimulate" the economy, they only lowered the visible half--the employee half? The hidden half stayed stayed just as high.

Hidden tax streams like the employer half of the payroll tax are much more likely to be raised than visible, in-your-face tax streams like a sales tax.

I don't know if you live in a state that has a sales tax, I do. Every year someone tries to push for an increase in the sales tax for this or that good cause, and every year it gets quashed. The sales tax rate has been steady for the last 20+ years. I understand the concern, but as a practical matter a sales tax is the hardest type of tax to increase.

It's much more likely taxes will be increased with the current system (where so many taxes are hidden) than in a simple system where everything is out in the open.

49 posted on 10/13/2011 11:49:25 AM PDT by Brookhaven (999 Tax Calculator: http://goo.gl/AHsjH)
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To: workerbee
I’m intrigued by Cain’s plan because it does appear to “standardize” taxes across all levels and make it much more difficult for all the hidden taxes we get now.

I like that part too. Just very afraid of adding something so powerful as a national sales tax. Regardless of political party, money is the drug of choice in Washington--and if we have learned anything I hope we have learned that they will spend until WE all drop.

Money is power. And we seem to be happily agreeing to giving them another avenue to take ours--while firmly believing they'll never ask for more than 9%. Not ever, ever. They swear to god and cross their hearts.

If we go along, then the lessons of these most painful four years will have meant nothing. (IMHO, of course)

50 posted on 10/13/2011 11:51:28 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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