Skip to comments.Columbus blamed for Little Ice Age
Posted on 10/13/2011 2:17:57 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
Depopulation of Americas may have cooled climate
MINNEAPOLIS By sailing to the New World, Christopher Columbus and the other explorers who followed may have set off a chain of events that cooled Europes climate for centuries.
The European conquest of the Americas decimated the people living there, leaving large areas of cleared land untended. Trees that filled in this territory pulled billions of tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, diminishing the heat-trapping capacity of the atmosphere and cooling climate, says Richard Nevle, a geochemist at Stanford University.
We have a massive reforestation event thats sequestering carbon coincident with the European arrival, says Nevle, who described the consequences of this change October 11 at the Geological Society of America annual meeting.
Tying together many different lines of evidence, Nevle estimated how much carbon all those new trees would have consumed. He says it was enough to account for most or all of the sudden drop in atmospheric carbon dioxide recorded in Antarctic ice during the 16th and 17th centuries. This depletion of a key greenhouse gas, in turn, may have kicked off Europes so-called Little Ice Age, centuries of cooler temperatures that followed the Middle Ages.
(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...
Although this isn’t news about an archeological exploration, it discusses a startling hypothesis about global warming in the days of Columbus which I’m sure that many members of your ping list would love to discuss.
Sounds like it should come from “The Onion”.
Folks you cannot make this stuff up. These people must stay awake nights figuring new ideas to make up.
this needs a facepalm
So, clear cutting by Indians good. Clear cutting by white man bad.
Reading the excerpt was enough IMO. Amazing. Absolutely amazing.
Wondering which chemicals he was overexposed.
Whoaaaa!!! Just wait a dog-gone minute! The European settlement of the New World CLEARED LAND! That is historical fact. This is the most ridiculous mumbo-jumbo of all time.
Next I suppose they will finally acknowledge the Medieval Warm Period, but will blame it on the Crusades/Byzantines/Mongols/Viking cow farts.
Except that the cooling associated with the Little Ice Age started almost 200 years before Columbus Sailed The Ocean Blue.
This theory is not new.
Historian Charles Mann discusses it in his books, “1491” and “1493,” covering the Americas before and just after the arrival of Europeans.
Richard Nevle of Stanford University
I wonder if this guy has any relationship to the Richard Nevle who is currently principal of Strake Jesuit College Prep High School in Houston, TX? Mr. Nevle had 4 children, as I remember -- some of them sons. Mr. Nevle was my sons' Sr. Advisor years ago, 1979 and 1982. Very accomplished family. The age would be right.
For the record, Charles C. Mann is not an historian. He's a B.A. who writes stuff, generally at great length. A heavy-breathing, politically correct scribe who takes a lot of liberties with the truth, in my observation.
Ignores science that shows atmospheric CO2 does not drive temperature change. If RESPONDS to it.
We all know it’s Bush’s fault.
Did he explain why the Norse Greenland settlements were dying due to temperature drops 50 to 100 years befor Columbus sailed? Maybe they should blame it on the 35% drop in Europe’s population due to the Black death. With a drop in population less food was needed,less acreage cultivated,reforestation takes place.
I get it, trees cause ice ages.
Let me get this straight, they move from europe and stop cutting trees down to cook dinner and go to America where they forget how to cook.
Obviously these Scientwists smoke a lot of pot.
Mann is not a historian; he writes speculative historical fiction.
Tying together many different lines of bovine scat,
Ask and ye shall receive.
Oh no! Killer trees!
The cooling started before the "official" Little Ice Age. Around 1200. Pack ice started to grow in 1250. Around 1300 summers were cooling in Europe. 1315 was a rainy period and the times of great famines. All this stuff happened before Columbus.
Now if Erik the Red caused the diseases to spread all across the native tribes, there might be an argument, but a lot of this happened before Columbus. In fact some of the little ice age effects and politics from it and the famines (especially the religious fights with England) may have been a reason for the Columbus voyages in the first place.
There also was a large number of Mt Pinatubo+ level of major volcanic eruptions during that period. That causes global cooling.
Maybe we can talk the m-c-g-w believers to take one for the team? I'll chip in for the required kool-aid.
He was overexposed to cannabis - - - at least.....
Ah yes, the Jesuits.
The creators of liberation theology .......
Notice how they totally whitewashed the significant role that the Keebler Elves played in Columbus’ evil scheme.
Gosh. I thought the Little Ice Age had something to do with the Maunder Minimum and the disappearing sunspots. Silly me.
Columbus - The First Environmentalist.
This is all it takes to get on a straight site called “Science News”?
If I submit that Japanese Beetle caused World War II, would they publish it?
This isn’t even pseudo-science; it’s delusional.
BUGS: What's the matter, Chris?
COLUMBUS: The ice-ah age, she-ah no-ah mah fault!
I stand corrected.
His bibliographies are quite impressive. I would call him a reporter covering science, history and archeology.
What kind of rag would publish this
delusional Marxist propaganda ?
This clearly shows that tenure is an environmental hazard.
Whenever a person becomes tenured, he/she is free to make irresponsible statements that are given too much weight, affect policy, and lead to ill-thought-out, destabilizing environmental decisions.
Abolish tenure...for the environment.
NO, a facepalm won’t do. This requires beat head on desk or large tree.
And I thought that settlement would cause MORE land to be cleared.
Silly me. I should know better than to think about such loft things that are out of the reach of understanding of a mere mortal engineer.
Clearly, the author has prowess and a degree in SCIENCE!
It’s those pesky white people again.
This is just another angle La Raza and Indians will clamp onto to further their own racism and also their own claims we have no legal right to be here, blah blah blah.
As if those people didn’t fight us or each other before we colonized here. Or when some tribe took over an area of another tribe. Gimme a break. They’re fortunate to have survived, many cultures - including theirs - killed off ALL the losers of battles. They were genocidal because they weren’t going to have any descendants coming back for possible retribution.
Comes out the day after (Real) Columbus Day: coincidence? I think not!
Now they don’t want to just blame him for the “destruction” of the New World, but also blame him for freezing Europe to death as well.
They really hate that dead white guy.
(In before Sunkenciv pings me to it!)
I would call him a postmodernist trying to manipulate people through creating a new “narrative”. In other words, he is a lying sack of fertilizer.
So, in order to stop global warming we have to kill Indians?
So the Indians in North America had cleared the continent of trees? So they could run their vast farming system? And they caused global warming at the time? (BAD Indians!!) Then the Euros came over and let the trees grow back after they killed off the Indians? And the Euros didn’t need all that cleared land because they didn’t grow food?