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Drug Smugglers Tunnel Into Arizona Parking Spaces
ABC News ^ | 10-13-11 | Randy Kreider

Posted on 10/13/2011 3:13:03 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic

Drug smugglers are endlessly creative when it comes to inventing ways to move marijuana, cocaine and other contraband from Mexico into the United States.

In the latest innovation uncovered by law enforcement, smugglers in the border town of Nogales, Arizona were bringing drugs into the U.S. for the cost of a quarter.

The parking meters on International Street, which hugs the border fence in Nogales, cost 25 cents. Smugglers in Mexico tunneled under the fence and under the metered parking spaces, and then carefully cut neat rectangles out of the pavement. Their confederates on the U.S. side would park false-bottomed vehicles in the spaces above the holes, feed the meters, and then wait while the underground smugglers stuffed their cars full of drugs from below.

When the exchange was finished, the smugglers would use jacks to put the pavement "plugs" back into place. The car would drive away, and only those observers who were looking closely would notice the seams in the street.

"It's unbelievable," Nogales mayor Arturo Garino told Tucson, Arizona ABC affiliate KGUN. "Those are the strides these people take to get the drugs across the border."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderfence; bordersecurity; cocaine; creative; drugs; marijuana; nogales; smugglers; tunnel

Drug smugglers tunnel into Arizona parking places.

1 posted on 10/13/2011 3:13:07 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Just keep building those fences!! Like Perry said....troops and surveillance. Anything else is D U M B.


2 posted on 10/13/2011 3:16:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: afraidfortherepublic

There were 16 tunnels!!


3 posted on 10/13/2011 3:17:51 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Who would have thunk it, people can be endlessly creative when it comes to making money.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 3:18:14 PM PDT by MetaThought
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Fill the tunnels with rattle snakes......big ones. Then blow up the entrance in the states.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 3:22:59 PM PDT by RC2
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I shudder to imagine terrorists doing this with explosives instead of drugs.


6 posted on 10/13/2011 3:23:32 PM PDT by Maceman (Obama: As American as nasei goreng)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Pretty ingenious. I have to say I am impressed. Yet the questions are: !.) What if some not drug smuggler parks there and thwarts the efforts of the day? What then? What happens if some innocent victim sees something. Do they off them? As a writer these are the questions I would be asking in my novel. Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction in that a written or reader/viewer may find it had to believe. This one does pass the test though. It was obviously incredibly affective. Well you gotta give it to these people they do whatever it takes to make a dime. Just very bad morals etc.

I would wonder what that big slice of cement is though.

7 posted on 10/13/2011 3:24:09 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Also.....go out and find and trap rabid animals and put them in the tunnels.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 3:24:13 PM PDT by RC2
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To: MetaThought

“Who would have thunk it, people can be endlessly creative when it comes to making money.”

Hard to believe that when I was a kid, impressions of Mexicans were formed from Speedy Gonzalez cartoons. Actually, I have found them to be incredibly industrious people. In this case, it would help if they did something actually constructive.


9 posted on 10/13/2011 3:25:32 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: GOP Poet

affective=effective. Please forget about my other mistakes. haha. Long day.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 3:26:23 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: HiJinx

ping


11 posted on 10/13/2011 3:27:36 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

OH come on THIS just CAN’t be true. It’s a PERRY lie.

FENCES ARE the ANSWER. Sarc-barf mega alert.


12 posted on 10/13/2011 3:31:25 PM PDT by marty60
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To: afraidfortherepublic

The Feds should park their own false bottom truck in the parking space. Then, when the smugglers pop the cement and open the false bottom of the truck, THEN ...

DROP A COUPLE OF GRENADES [WITH CHEESE !!!] DOWN THE HOLE ...

Problem solved ...


13 posted on 10/13/2011 3:31:28 PM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

What incredible brain-dead arguments from the no-fence crowd.

As if building these difficult and complicated and tiny tunnels is no harder than strolling across an open border of hundreds of miles and results in the same amount of illegals and drugs and terrorists coming over.

For some reason we are supposed to believe that the same boots on the ground would find it no more difficult to defend a completely open border than they would a properly fenced border with a patrol road aided by other technology.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 3:42:16 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Must we repeat Einstein’s definition of insanity again? We will never win the “war on drugs” using all the tried strategies attempted thus far. To many people, including law abiding law enforcement officials, lawyers, judges, DAs, court reporters, jailers and many others are making money off the drug traffickers.

We must make the penalty for drug dealing so severe that the sellers either will cease to do business, or they will have to be replaced by other idiots. We should arrest, try and convict the drug dealers. Then execute them. The entire process should take no more than 45 days after arrest. If the price is their life, than perhaps they will be deterred. If not then we will be rid of them.

It works in the Islamic world and it will work here. Nothing else has worked.

Anyone caught with drugs with the intent to distribute should be executed. It is just that simple. Why should we continue to allow these animals to prey upon our youth?


15 posted on 10/13/2011 3:48:38 PM PDT by Saltmeat
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To: Meet the New Boss
As a Texas native of somewhat advanced years, I have to respectfully disagree with you about a fence along the border.

A fence is a barrier to entry. We already have a barrier, called the Rio Grande. Yes, it has some shallow places, but most of the length, it is pretty effective as a barrier. That is one reason you do not hear much about illegals wandering through Big Bend park, as you do about that park in Arizona. The shallow places on the Rio Grande are well known.

So why not add a fence?

The notable fences along international borders, the Maginot Line, the Wall of China, the Israeli fence around the west bank, all have been less than effective when considered over a long period of history. The time periods when they were effective were the time periods when there were lots of boots enforcing the effectiveness of these barriers.

So, since we already have a barrier in the form of the Rio Grande, and we will need “boots on the ground” anyway, no matter what additional barrier we might add, why not just go for more “boots on the ground” right now?

Just take advantage of the barrier we already have.

Dredge the shallow places in the Rio Grande, put up numerous observation towers (like we have for forest rangers in east Texas), use electronic surveillance and drones, add fences in areas where they are appropriate, but most importantly, have lots of forces strategically placed along the border to respond to and apprehend anyone crossing the Rio Grande.

We could do all of that fairly quickly, and it would have a very big impact. We do not need to wait on a fence along the entire length of the Rio Grande.

The following analysis of Texas Border Security was written by two military experts, who each have extensive experience. They essentially recommend the same sort of thing. The report seems long, but one can get the meat of it by reading pages 8-15.

http://www.texasagriculture.gov/vgn/tda/files/1848/46982_Final%20Report-Texas%20Border%20Security.pdf

Why do I think this approach would work?

We have had illegals cross some land we own which is 70 miles from the border. They have made a mess and obviously are a security concern. Certainly we want that to stop. However, the incidence of illegals crossing our land has decreased significantly in the past several years, including before the current economic downturn. The reduction in illegals on our land directly correlates with the increase in patrol activities by authorities at Laguna, Bracketville, and Barksdale, all towns between our property and the border.

It seems to me that increasing in boots on the ground has had an impact, at least in the area that I know something about.

If the above suggestions do not work, then spend the time and money to build another barrier. I just respectfully suggest we try something that seems to work first, because it is faster and probably cheaper.

16 posted on 10/13/2011 4:00:27 PM PDT by LOC1 (Let's pick the best, not settle for a compromise.)
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To: Saltmeat
It works in the Islamic world and it will work here.

No it doesn't. Iran has a lot of heroin addicts.

17 posted on 10/13/2011 4:02:41 PM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Sacajaweau

When the holes are discovered, policy should be to emplace Claymore mines with motion detectors in them. Repeat as necessary.


18 posted on 10/13/2011 4:05:05 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

So how did the surface and the tunnel diggers sync up? There’s a lot of pavement under a street, it’s not thin like a sidewalk. Perhaps the street cutting was done from above? It looks like something from a Road Runner or Bugs Bunny cartoon.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 4:16:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: marty60
Yes, your and perrys answer is surrender, we get it, borrow the old french flag.
20 posted on 10/13/2011 4:19:08 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow democrat)
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To: Strategerist

And anyhow, the current state of the US judicial system would make any such proposal a dead letter.

I wonder why Obama has picked this time to jump on California medpot farms? Debates about whether those farms’ produce are going to all-medical purposes aside, this represents a whole bunch of pot that WON’T be imported from Mexico.


21 posted on 10/13/2011 4:19:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: org.whodat

Maybe the border service is keeping mum about how well their ground listening equipment works, but it makes sense to use it if possible where there are situations that invite tunneling.


22 posted on 10/13/2011 4:20:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (There's gonna be a Redneck Revolution! (See my freep page) [rednecks come in many colors])
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To: LOC1

“have lots of forces strategically placed along the border to respond to and apprehend anyone crossing the Rio Grande.”

Well at least you are more open to the use of fences than Perry who would only permit fencing in some parts of some urban areas. You should drop the analogies to the Maginot Line and the Great Wall of China, they have nothing to do with our circumstances.

Of course there are areas such as canyons and lakes where a fence doesn’t make sense. But the cheap illegal labor advocates grab that as an excuse for doing nothing except for some public relations fencing in some urban areas. We need to start from the mindset of fencing/patrol road on as much of the border as possible, rather than from the opposite mindset of using as little as possible and hoping for the best.

The cry for more boots on the ground is a false choice. Of course we need more boots on the ground together with a barrier to act as a force multipler. The annual cost of a high number of boots on the ground to defend completely open border as a practical matter will not be sustained, whereas we are in a better position to sustain a reasonable annual appropriation of fence maintenance and border personnel after incurring a one-time cost to build a force multipler.

IMO we don’t have the luxury of waiting any more. The Mexican cartels are already ensconcing themselves in the border counties and beyond. Powerful drug cartels like CDS have supplanted the power of the Mexican government in areas of their control. The violence on the Mexican side of the border is out of control and growing, and waiting until it grows on our side into the same level of problem is foolishness. We need to prepare for it now.

I have already read that pdf you supplied and it certainly is not an argument for leaving the border unfenced.

However, thanks for your thoughtful comment rather than simply reciting the “Rick Perry is so awesome” response I have too frequently seen.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 4:24:40 PM PDT by Meet the New Boss
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To: Maceman

I sadly comment that weapons and troops are already positioned in our country to attack...we have been extremely naive about our enemies and politics have allowed our enemy in..we would have to be ignorant to think otherwise..if i were a general for their side I would get everything ready first..Bin laden learned..don’t punch superman in the stomach you need a final blow to start with...or superman will whip up on ya..come Lord...


24 posted on 10/13/2011 4:26:07 PM PDT by aces
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To: HiTech RedNeck

He wants to keep his army and his buddies ready for the attack..the cartel needs our money...and Uhbummer is helping them..


25 posted on 10/13/2011 4:28:03 PM PDT by aces
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To: GOP Poet
Don't know if you have ever read any of Tony Hillerman's books but he wrote one that has a very similar senario. The name of it is "The whistling Pig" I believe, something like that, has been a while since I read it.

It is about drug smugglers using an old oil line to smuggle dope into the country using the cleaning pigs to send the stuff across the border. Also I have seen several old movies where something similar went down in relation to bank robberies.

An enterprising intelligent leader of these vicious jerks probably picked up on things like that and came up with his own version.

26 posted on 10/13/2011 4:31:13 PM PDT by calex59
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