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Karl Rove: Democrats Woo The Occupy Wall Street Protestors But Could It Backfire
Fox News / The Wall Street Journal ^ | October 13, 2011 | Karl Rove, former Deputy WH Chief of Staff

Posted on 10/13/2011 5:20:17 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

At his recent news conference, President Obama praised Occupy Wall Street, saying, "It expresses the frustrations that the American people feel." Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi praised the protesters, saying, "God bless them for their spontaneity." Vice President Joe Biden claimed the protesters had "a lot in common with the Tea Party." And the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee is circulating a petition seeking 100,000 signers to declare, "I stand with the Occupy Wall Street protests."

The political calculation behind all this is obvious: Democrats hope Occupy Wall Street will boost their party's chances in next year's election as the tea party did for the GOP in 2010. But Democratic leaders are wrong in believing that Occupy Wall Street is the liberal alternative to the Tea Party.

The Tea Party is a middle-class movement of people who want limited government, less spending, less debt, low taxes, and the repeal of ObamaCare. Occupy Wall Street isn't a movement. It's a series of events populated by a weird cast of disaffected characters, ranging from anarchists and anti-Semites to socialists and LaRouchies. What they have in common is an amorphous anger aimed at banks, investors, rich people and bourgeois values.

The Tea Party reveres the Constitution and wants to change laws to restore the country to prosperity. Occupy Wall Street started by occupying a New York City park and then blocked the Brooklyn Bridge, sparking the arrest of hundreds.

The Tea Party files for permits for its rallies and picks up its trash afterwards. Occupy Wall Street tolerates protesters who defecate on police cars, allows the open sale of drugs at protests, and features women walking around rallies topless.

The Tea Party has settled down to democracy's patient, responsible work, either by exerting influence on the Republican Party nomination process or educating Americans....

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; hippies; karlrove; obama; occupy; occupywallstreet; teaparty; teapartyrebellion
Comments?
1 posted on 10/13/2011 5:20:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I pretty much agree with him (much to my chagrin).


2 posted on 10/13/2011 5:23:23 PM PDT by tatown
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does this have overtones of Germany in about 1934 ???


3 posted on 10/13/2011 5:23:30 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comments about Rove? I would be banned permanently from FR.


4 posted on 10/13/2011 5:23:51 PM PDT by chickenlips (Karl Rove- the RINO ruminator, striking fear in donuts everywhere)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we need guys like Limbaugh, Savage, Levin, Beck and others to be loudly reminding America that there are a couple hundred million of us who aren’t part of this so called 99%.

There isn’t anyone protesting in my little town or any of a dozen other little towns within 20 miles of here.


5 posted on 10/13/2011 5:23:57 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In the age of Algore’s Internet, all the MSM spin in the world cannot hide who and what these people are and what they really want to see happen in America. Party on OWS!
6 posted on 10/13/2011 5:25:32 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since they have no message people will remember how they behaved and how they ultimately leave their mini woodstock.


7 posted on 10/13/2011 5:26:34 PM PDT by Average Al (Forbidden fruit leads to many jams.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comments? Yep.

I think what’s going to backfire is the Republican’s obsession with the occupiers.

If they were pushing half as hard at fast and furious, solyndra, obamacare, obama’s tax increase, waste/fraud/abuse, troop levels in Afghan, obama’s desire to gut the military, and a host of other items, then there wouldn’t be time for the dems to be talking about a bunch of kids having a lark in the park.


8 posted on 10/13/2011 5:27:46 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are too many people in the electorate who like the message of the “99%” and support them.

No matter what, Mr. Obama over the top in 2012.

IMHO


9 posted on 10/13/2011 5:30:37 PM PDT by ripley
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I will never take this man seriously, ever.


10 posted on 10/13/2011 5:31:30 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (Governor Palin: "I'm not for sale.")
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To: xzins
You could be right. OWS is a distraction — it also seems designed to deflect blame from Obama, to bankers and the “rich”.
11 posted on 10/13/2011 5:34:21 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Left is swooning over this. "Hot Damn, Viet Nam!"

(Though the organizers and supporters are cheap knockoffs of the '60s well-educated, commie pinkos.)

Check out Matt Taibbi on Rolling Stone, Dem Congressmen and women, Doris Kearns Goodwin (who by the way brags that her husband 20 years ago noted the conditions that brought about the occupy demonstrations and wrote a book about it -- and wonders if Taibbi got some of his Rolling Stone article from reading the book. Imus show, 12 Oct. I believe.)

This is real thing! The establishment Lefties are going bananas with joy.

"We want democratic capitalism" said Taibbi or Goodwin, can't remember which said it on the Imus show. They even had Imus so excited he called the Tea Party "tea baggers" and then corrected himself.

12 posted on 10/13/2011 5:35:25 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Dems should have left well enough alone, and stayed away from this OWS bunch of covetous losers. They are just obsessed with what other people have.

By increasing the noise level about this, and by identifying with these people, the dems will only hurt themselves as the public eventually figures out what these people are really all about, which is socialism and government control of wages.


13 posted on 10/13/2011 5:40:10 PM PDT by mtrott
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Hi USFV,

I agree. Right now the real burden of the middle class is those who are NOT paying tax. With the upper class paying about 70% of the tax bill, then the problem is the millions upon millions who are paying ZERO and sucking up money big time in the form of entitlements.

It’s time for a renewal of the call for stopping welfare cheats and anyone who games the system.

EVERYONE should pay something toward the cost of government, and social security tax doesn’t do that since it’s returned at a far greater rate than it’s taken....unsustainable.


14 posted on 10/13/2011 5:40:36 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True Supporters of our Troops PRAY for their VICTORY!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I don’t know how you tolerate watching the Imus morning show. It’s terrible! I’d rather watch “Morning Joe”, if that tells you how bad it is!


15 posted on 10/13/2011 5:43:48 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

Actually I’m thinking more of a dress rehearsal. They aren’t going to be able to keep it up all winter let alone for a whole year.


16 posted on 10/13/2011 5:46:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek (ALCS/NLCS playoff thread http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2789907/posts)
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To: xzins

I think what’s going to backfire is the Republican’s obsession with the occupiers.

If they were pushing half as hard at fast and furious, solyndra, obamacare, obama’s tax increase, waste/fraud/abuse, troop levels in Afghan, obama’s desire to gut the military, and a host of other items, then there wouldn’t be time for the dems to be talking about a bunch of kids having a lark in the park.

Preach, Chappy!


Where there's a shell, there's a way.

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

Or you can get raw with these strings. Either way, the violin is sweet yet lethal.

Do it!

17 posted on 10/13/2011 5:53:31 PM PDT by rdb3 (The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart.)
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To: cripplecreek
In Chicago yesterday, the temps were high 70’s and just a beautiful day, but at 11am there were 6 protesters in front of the Fed. This isn't a movement, just a bunch of loons hanging out hoping something develops. We asked one of the protesters who they were protesting and they said the financial thieves. Asked them about Geithner, Buffet, and the big bank chairmen and they didn't know any of the names of the people. They are clowns and kids. It is another Axelrod created fiasco, just like #attackwatch and #ask michelle are. This administration is desperate and failing and they can't get anything right.
18 posted on 10/13/2011 5:54:42 PM PDT by bfree (The revolution is coming - OBAMI IS THE ENEMY OF FREEDOM)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Tea Party cannot stand Benedict Rove and Romney.

They and Soros are BEHIND the OWS anarchists.

Just as the “sudden” endorsements for Romney are designed
by Team Romney,
and the attempt to cut off voters’ choices
are due to Team Romney,
and the attacks and dirty tricks on GOP candidates are due
to Team Romney,
Soros and Romney (The GOP’s Obama) are on track.


19 posted on 10/13/2011 5:57:56 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: chickenlips
Comments about Rove? I would be banned permanently from FR.

Apparently either you disagree with Rove's assessment and opinion on this matter, or you are not staying on topic.

20 posted on 10/13/2011 6:04:09 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Too many people are incapable of critical thinking. Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Karl Rove should avoid using the word “backfire.”


21 posted on 10/13/2011 6:10:04 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hahahaha! Can you imagine sleeping in those bags with those dogs who have been running around in that park among the urine, feces and garbage all day, with no bath. I’m not sure whether I like the term Fleabaggers or Trashbaggers better.

As for Rove’s article, he’s become so irrelevant to me since his shenanigans with Christine O’Donnel, I barely read him anymore.

The democrats aligning themselves with this motley crew when they refused to even recognize the Tea Party as legitimate, I think, wil show Americans and Obama’s arse to all get out.

I don’t even see how any Americans have any respect for the democratic party anymore. And I think the democrats are starting to feel it. And the more dangerous they are going to get.


22 posted on 10/13/2011 6:10:58 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: cripplecreek

I agree with you.


23 posted on 10/13/2011 6:13:47 PM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: RowdyFFC

Correction, bad edit...

The democrats aligning themselves with this motley crew when they refused to even recognize the Tea Party as legitimate, I think, wil show Americans the DNC’s and Obama’s arse to all get out.


24 posted on 10/13/2011 6:14:24 PM PDT by RowdyFFC
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To: Cobra64; chickenlips
Apparently either you disagree with Rove's assessment and opinion on this matter, or you are not staying on topic.

Due to Rove's own behavior, many have developed Pavlovian conditioning to associate anything Rove with the term "Turd Blossom."

25 posted on 10/13/2011 6:19:28 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (No More RINOs!!!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

Imus, in my opinion, looks to me like a warmed over cadaver with a Charlie McCarthy hang jaw. Makes about as much sense too.


26 posted on 10/13/2011 6:32:46 PM PDT by tenthirteen
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To: Diogenesis; 2ndDivisionVet

Let’s see now. The topic is the viability of the Occupation tactic and all you can contribute is six non sequiturs of Romney. You’re really a caricature you know.


27 posted on 10/13/2011 6:39:22 PM PDT by tlb
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
. . . a weird cast of disaffected characters, ranging from anarchists and anti-Semites to socialists and LaRouchies."

Isn't there a parcel of land where ass clowns may be ass clowns and commune with nature while leaving the rest of us unmolested by their amoral ideas and behavior?

28 posted on 10/13/2011 7:09:21 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: bfree

11 AM? OWS malcontents don’t start crawling out of bed (or sleeping bag) until noon.


29 posted on 10/13/2011 7:10:17 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (What's special about bad? Bad is easy. Anyone can do bad. Aspire to be good!)
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To: KoRn
I'm 100% radio. No TV.

It is essentially the same show over and over, day after day, month after month. . . virtual "rebroadcasts", hour-to-hour even, except for the guests.

But I do kind of like them having a good time..

though Imus claims his name-calling is just for comedy I am convinced that he despises conservative women in politics.

So when he starts in on Palin ("stupid and a dimwit") and Bachmann ("not stupid but despicable and wrong about everything") I turn it off until the start of the next hour. The quotes are not exact but close. BTW, he does have conservative women friends in the media like Laura Ingraham -- and his wife is said to be conservative.

He absolutely swoons over Matt Taibbi and he just loved Anthony Weiner.

30 posted on 10/13/2011 7:15:21 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tenthirteen
I've seen images of him but I have radio and no TV. His show is monotonous but I do like to hear them having a laugh trading barbs.

Despite his claims of "comedy" when he starts name-calling Palin and Bachmann I turn it off. It ain't funny how he hates those two.. though he did defend Palin against his rabid Lefty regular guests who delighted in that "book" that some nut wrote.

31 posted on 10/13/2011 7:21:50 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: tlb
Listen FRiend, the topic is the author: Karl Rove.

Friend of yours ... or closer?

"Go Mitt. Go Mitt. Go Mitt"


"Rove is pushing Romney so aggressively
some folks are beginning to wonder what's going on,"
grumbled one veteran Republican strategist."


"Rove has made no secret
of his support for Romney as McCain's VP. "

32 posted on 10/13/2011 7:23:34 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
How about an ice floe off Antarctica?
33 posted on 10/13/2011 7:28:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Better to ask forgiveness than permission.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Vice President Joe Biden claimed the protesters had "a lot in common with the Tea Party."

Is he trying to say that the OWS protestors are racists?

34 posted on 10/13/2011 7:38:12 PM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (It's 3 AM. Let me sleep on it. I'll get back to you in 16 hours.)
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35 posted on 10/13/2011 7:38:48 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
At one time I thought Imus' show was very funny; especially during the Clinton years when he would do parodies such as General Patton addressing the troops over matters of the day.

Charles McCord was a real asset to the show and his absence shows...Bernie also used to do "man in the Street" interviews, which were hysterical.

I think the whole Rutgers Girls' team flap, Sharpton's attacks and Imus being fired from WFAN pretty much did him in...it's like he's afraid to do or say anything anymore. what a pity.

36 posted on 10/13/2011 7:50:44 PM PDT by Victor (If an expert says it can't be done, get another expert." -David Ben-Gurion, the first Prime Minister)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The antics of these clowns will turn off many voters, while, those with sympathy are lunatics and Bolshecrats some of whom will not vote because there is little substance being displayed.


37 posted on 10/13/2011 8:14:35 PM PDT by depressed in 06 (I'll follow an eloquent Allen West out of hell.)
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To: chickenlips

I wonder if La Raza will invite Karl Rove to be a speaker at their national convention again this year.


38 posted on 10/13/2011 8:23:59 PM PDT by Pelham (Immigrating America into just one more Latin American country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
How about an ice floe off Antarctica?

I was thinking a parcel where global warming held greater sway.

39 posted on 10/13/2011 8:48:36 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (minds change)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Please tell me the WSJ didn't pay Karl Rove for this.....

Seriously ?

Nothing in the article is wrong, but everything in it, is absolutely obvious, like stupidly and blatantly obvious.

A high schooler could say all this. I mean whats next ? Potential future Karl Rove genius insights.

"Urinating on American flag at democratic convention could turn off war veterans"

"Promising to bring back slavery, may alienate voters"

"Going to cemetery and dancing on graves, could cost the votes of loved ones"

"Promising free heroin to children at school, may turn parents off"

Seriously, this article is pretty much pure common sense, its a basic, you'd have to be an idiot not to see that its accurate, and even the left wing politicians aren't that stupid, I suspect this is setting up a "sister soulja" moment for Obama.

40 posted on 10/13/2011 11:09:24 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
though Imus claims his name-calling is just for comedy I am convinced that he despises conservative women in politics.

Don Imus hates women, period, its just that he can get away with it, when his focus is on conservative women (if he did the same with liberal women, he'd be back in hell again).

Its kind of like O'Donnel the other night with Cain, some of the things he said to Cain, in disdain, could readily be applied to alot of black folks (liberal or conservative), including his desire for Cain, to express "gratitude" for being granted civil right. I suspect alot of white liberals feel that way about minorities but dare not say it publicly, only exposing their fews with black conservatives because they feel safer and know they can get away with it.

41 posted on 10/13/2011 11:15:29 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

>> Comments?

I lost respect for that establishment bastard.


42 posted on 10/13/2011 11:19:21 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Save a pretzel for the gas jet.)
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