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VANITY- Why does GOP "Elite" hate Cain?
scrippsnews ^ | 10/14/2011 | cookies4ever

Posted on 10/14/2011 8:39:08 PM PDT by Cookies4ever

This is my very first post after a decade+ of reading FR online so if I've made a formatting error, please forgive me. What is the GOP "elite" problem with Herman Cain? He's a legitimate candidate with great conservative plans. He's had no political experience, but why is that a bad thing? What career politician has accomplished what Mr. Cain has? Why do O'Reilley, Hannity, Rove, etc. hold Mr.Cain with such contempt? What do they fear...or...do they just swallow the left's pablum that Romney is the only viable candidate--and the only GOP candidate that Obama "fears" which is total BS!!!


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KEYWORDS: cain; gopelite; hermancain; politics
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To: Cookies4ever
I do not believe that to be the case...neither does Sean Hannity. I do not the “GOP Elite” even exists. If so, name names.

It is a convenient bogeyman to blame when some one’s candidate, like Bachmann, self destructs.

21 posted on 10/14/2011 8:56:22 PM PDT by Perdogg (I will support any Republican candidate against 0bama in 2012)
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To: Cookies4ever
"Why do O'Reilley, Hannity, Rove, etc. hold Mr.Cain with such contempt"



Are you really surprised with the Fox News talking faces? Are you really surprised with Rove?

22 posted on 10/14/2011 8:56:29 PM PDT by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many conservative Christians my age out there? __ Click my name)
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To: stilloftyhenight

In case you are wondering, that was extreme sarcasm.


23 posted on 10/14/2011 8:56:29 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight
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To: Cookies4ever

All of the above answers are great.

Bottom line is the republican party as a whole has been taken over by the liberals. The country club types if you will. Living in their ivory towers and sending down their commands to the conservative base to do what they say.

Anything (tea party) or anybody (Cain or Palin) is seen as a threat to their power structure and firm grasp on the party.

These people are no better then liberal democrats and many of them enjoy each others company and are frequently seen with each other at affairs and such.

This establishment is dragging the country down nearly as quickly as the democrats are...Perhaps some are a bit more fiscally conservative then your typical liberal democrat but make no mistake about it, if they had free reign it would spell the end of the republic in the blink of an eye.


24 posted on 10/14/2011 8:56:56 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Cookies4ever

In any place not on the up and up you have to ‘make your bones’ so as to be as culpable as the rest. That way you can’t afford to step out of line.


25 posted on 10/14/2011 8:59:56 PM PDT by decimon
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To: lahargis
I like Cain...I don't like the idea of favoring ANY one "zone" over another. (What caused these "mostly economically depressed areas" to begin with? Liberal policies!!)

How about the entire country is considered an "empowerment" zone? With equal incentives across the board and across the country?

If you attract them (investors) equally, they will come.

26 posted on 10/14/2011 9:00:18 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: ken21

Just before we get too far with the true conservatives on parade, just remember before he passed away, Buckley supported McCain in the 2008 primaries.


27 posted on 10/14/2011 9:00:54 PM PDT by Perdogg (I will support any Republican candidate against 0bama in 2012)
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To: Cookies4ever

I think powerful Republican “elites” look at all things through the lens of electability ....if they appear to “hate” Caine it is really that they think he is un electable ....this explains why they love someone like “Romney” .....

If anyone is controversial they think they are un electable


28 posted on 10/14/2011 9:01:57 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Cookies4ever

Hannity??? I call B.S.


29 posted on 10/14/2011 9:02:40 PM PDT by liberty or death
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To: Cookies4ever

Because he has not paid his dues. What did he do in 2008 or 2010??

They know he doesn’t have a freckin chance of beating Obama.

The man knows one thing: 9-9-9 and its being reported he stole that from a video game. Of course that is not true.

The republican voters better get their act together. First it was Bachmann, than Perry, and now Cain.

Cain knows nothing about foreign policy. I saw him do an interview the other night with Greta and she asked him about the Iran terror plot and the man was clueless. He had not study his talking points or oneliners for that issue yet.

The man is a talking and a con-artist just like Obama. The only difference is that Cain is bullshztting the republican party.

Our country is sinking and people are pushing a radio host for POTUS and one that was not even as popular as a Rush, Hannity, or Levin??

Give me a freckin break!!!!!!!!!!!!!


30 posted on 10/14/2011 9:02:40 PM PDT by Truth101A
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The fix is in. Bumping up the primaries was a dead giveaway.

I’d heard that one of Rubio’s top aids lobbied for the FL primary bump up.

Just watch as the machine gears up into full combat mode.

We either all hang together or we all hang seperately.


31 posted on 10/14/2011 9:03:31 PM PDT by Kolath
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To: Lazlo in PA
A faction of FR hates Cain. It’s just the way it is.

That might be a bit of a misrepresentation. I can only speak for myself that I've posted some very critical messages of him, but I actually find him quite likeable on a personal basis. I probably only read 1% of the anti-Cain messages from others, but the ones I read criticized his policy ideas and experience, not him.

32 posted on 10/14/2011 9:03:31 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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To: lahargis
Simple - his empowerment (entitlement) zones in his 999 plan are not conservative values.

Hmm guess you did not know Reagan used the same concept. So now you are saying Reagan wasn't Conservative. Maybe the actual problem is you are mindlessly devoted to Perry and cannot be bother to rationally think about any other candidate.

In the United States, the zone concept gained its first supporters among leaders of the Republican Party, which advocated an overall reduction of government influence. In the early 1980s, Ronald Reagan included enterprise zones in the urban policy platform for his presidential campaign, and Senator Jack Kemp introduced the first bill featuring enterprise zones in Congress. The idea gradually expanded its base of supporters to include more liberal members of Congress, such as Democrats Robert Garcia and Charles Rangel of New York, as well as the leaders of prominent minority organizations, such as the National Urban League and the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP).

33 posted on 10/14/2011 9:04:16 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Cookies4ever

Congratulations on your first post!

I don’t think the GOP elites hate Cain at all. They just don’t think he can win. And if he wins, they know they won’t have the influence with him that they might with some other candidate.

Nothing really complicated or sinister, IMHO.


34 posted on 10/14/2011 9:05:23 PM PDT by fightinJAG (Herman Cain actually IS a rocket scientist.)
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To: Gene Eric
Actually the GOP Establishment has no such problem with Perry

Bill Kristol to a NY Time Reporter telling him how the GOP Establishment plans to deal with “the Tea party mutiny”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2792217/posts?page=3

Kristol told me just after Perry entered the race, a development that essentially ended [the more radical Michele] Bachmann’s brief ascent. Establishment Republicans may prefer Romney to Perry, but their assumption is that either man can be counted on to steer the party back toward the broad center next fall, effectively disarming the Tea Party mutiny.

35 posted on 10/14/2011 9:06:31 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: ElectronVolt

There is a dedicated Perry following that post thread after thread how Cain is no better than Obummer. That is just the way things go here. Palin fans, Perry fans, Bachmann fans and yes, Cain fans. It is a Primary after all. Vetting needs to be done.


36 posted on 10/14/2011 9:06:47 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: Cookies4ever; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; rabscuttle385; mkjessup; ..
RE :”What career politician has accomplished what Mr. Cain has? Why do O’Reilley, Hannity, Rove, etc. hold Mr.Cain with such contempt?

Cavuto likes Cain. Cain was introduced by Cavuto as a regular guest on Your World years ago. With Beck gone from FNC, Cavuto is the only political opinion show host I can stand over there. (Baur and Kelly are very good but they play more the reporter role not opinionist.)

Hannity I gave up years ago, he pushed Steele on RNC

O Reilly GAG, he is only a Republican because he doesnt want his taxes to go up

Rove (doesnt have a show) thinks RINOs are most electable, as he is one.

They also consider it critical that he previously held higher office before prime time. I doubt they hate him. Lets not start sounding like those Palinistas.

I think Cain is the best of the lot. The others are duds.

37 posted on 10/14/2011 9:06:47 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: Breto
Simple. He is a conservative.

And they are not.

38 posted on 10/14/2011 9:09:04 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: Perdogg

Bill Kristol, Karl Rove, Chales Kraulhammer, Daid Brooks, George Wills, the Bush’s, the Doles, The Romneys, etc etc etc

Denying their existence doesn’t change the facts. Try reading about them

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2792635/posts


39 posted on 10/14/2011 9:09:28 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: Jane Long
So now Reagan isn't a Conservative?

In the United States, the zone concept gained its first supporters among leaders of the Republican Party, which advocated an overall reduction of government influence. In the early 1980s, Ronald Reagan included enterprise zones in the urban policy platform for his presidential campaign, and Senator Jack Kemp introduced the first bill featuring enterprise zones in Congress.

40 posted on 10/14/2011 9:10:30 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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