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Sierra Club: Perry’s Energy Plan: Wheeze Baby Wheeze [American families have enough to worry about]
ENews (electronic news) ^ | October

Posted on 10/15/2011 1:28:17 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Pittsburgh--(ENEWSPF)--October 14, 2011. Today, Texas Governor and Republican presidential hopeful Rick Perry unveiled his energy plan for America. The plan, if implemented, will poison our air and water with toxic pollutants like soot, smog, arsenic, cadmium, dioxin, lead, and formaldehyde. It would also undercut safeguards from mercury, which is a neurotoxin and is known to harm developing fetuses.

“Rick Perry’s energy plan reads like a roadmap for making America’s kids sick,” said Sierra Club executive director Michael Brune. “Under this plan, we can expect to see much higher rates of asthma among children, and risk to pregnant women from mercury exposure. Republicans like Perry are putting polluters’ profits first and our kids’ health last. The Republican mantra should be ‘wheeze, baby, wheeze.”

Perry’s plan calls for scaling back basic EPA safeguards that protect our clean air and water. It would simultaneously expand development of dirty energy like coal, oil, and natural gas amounting to a one-two punch to Americans’ health.

“American families have enough to worry about,” Brune said. “They don’t need to spend more time taking their kids to the doctor or more money on hospital bills. The only people who stand to profit from this plan are overpaid oil, coal and natural gas CEOs.”

“Dismantling the EPA and assuming that states are properly watching over natural gas drilling is dangerous and puts the health of our families and communities at risk.”

Perry’s plan would also undercut the expansion of jobs in industries like solar—the fastest-growing industry in the energy sector.

“There’s a solution to the current epidemic of pollution-related illness that will also create good, lasting local jobs, and secure America’s energy independence,” said Brune. “It’s clean energy. America’s clean energy industry is strong and thriving, even in this down economy. Rick Perry’s plan would stifle that growth and return our country to a dirty, antiquated energy system. Under his plan, we’ll see asthma rates among American kids soar, while countries like China surpass us in reaping the benefits from clean energy like solar and wind."

In fact, America is predicted to become the world’s leader in solar energy by 2014, and in 2010, the U.S. was a net exporter of solar by $2 billion. Solar energy creates seven times more jobs than coal, nuclear and natural gas.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: green; naturalresources; perry2012; solar

Barack Obama visits Solyndra, his $500,000,000 U.S. taxpayer funded
failed investment in solar manufacturing.

SOLAR! Yes -- that's the ticket (Obama's money laundering scheme and the "green" club for dismantling the U.S. economy) while China loads up our coal in our ports and heads home to build more crap for us to buy so they can build up their armed forces - and level that world playing field just like Obama's Science and Technology adviser John P. Holdren (right out of Romney's old government think-tank -- along with Gina McCarthy, the chief EPA clean air regulator) told us must be done to make the world a better place.


Gov. Rick Perry delivers Energizing American Jobs and Security
Source speech at the United States Steel Irvin Works in West Mifflin, Pa

October 14, 2011..........Gov. Rick Perry: "The plan I present this morning, Energizing American Jobs and Security, will kick-start economic growth and create 1.2 million jobs.

It can be implemented quicker and free of Washington gridlock because it doesn’t require congressional action. Through a series of executive orders, and other executive actions, we will begin the process of creating jobs soon after the inauguration of a new president.

There is, of course, an important role for Congress to play. And in a matter of days I will offer to the American people a broader package of economic reforms that I will take to Congress when I am elected President. My complete economic growth package will tackle tax reform, entitlement reform and real spending reductions in order to address our growing debt crisis."............

Sections: [ Policy Recommendations with each section]

Energizing American Jobs and Security

Our Conservative Philosophy
ENERGIZING AMERICA

The Failed Current Approach
BARACK OBAMA’S INCOHERENT ENERGY POLICY

Our Approach
AN ALL-AMERICAN ENERGY POLICY

American Energy, American Jobs
DEVELOPING AMERICA’S DOMESTIC RESOURCES IN THE GULF

American Energy, American Jobs
PENNSYLVANIA’S MARCELLUS SHALE

Maintaining Reliable and Affordable Energy
POWERING AMERICA’S ENGINES OF COMMERCE

Renewable Energy
THE VIRGINIA CASE STUDY

Maintaining Reliable and Affordable Energy
EPA REFORM

Energizing America: Jobs and Security
A NEW PRESIDENT, A RENEWED AMERICA

1 posted on 10/15/2011 1:28:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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January 13, 2011 West Virginia: Agency Revokes Permit for Major Coal Mining Project “WASHINGTON — The Environmental Protection Agency revoked the permit for one of the nation’s largest mountaintop-removal coal mining projects on Thursday, saying the mine would have done unacceptable damage to rivers, wildlife and communities in West Virginia. It was the first time the agency had rescinded a valid clean water permit for a coal mine. …….”


Consol Energy's Coal distribution facility in Baltimore. Coal is brought in to the Marine terminal
from several different coal mines and then it is shipped and exported to many places including China.

June 11, 2011 Baltimore: Coal exports through port booming Cross the Bay Bridge on any day of the week, and you're likely to see several giant freighters anchored in the water below.A surge in coal exports from the port of Baltimore has turned the Chesapeake Bay into a maritime parking lot.Demand from China, India and other countries for high-priced metallurgic coal to fuel steel production has grown so strong that ships are backed up south of the bridge waiting to gain a berth at one of Baltimore's two coal terminals…….”


China, Asia and many developing countries are turning to the U.S. to make up for coal supply shortfalls

2 posted on 10/15/2011 1:30:28 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Sept 12, 2011 From Treehugger - A Discovery Company “………..For a flavor of what's to come we have only to look to Texas Governor Rick Perry, who seems to channel the vibe pretty well and gets only the rare local challenge….. Instead of dealing with the realities of climate change--regardless of whether you or they think it is caused by human activities--Texas politicians will keep playing the lynch mob role toward EPA, at least until the next Presidential election is over. It works as a political strategy - for now…..”

On another front - "permitting licenses" REGULATIONS Tree Hugger links to: this to support their position (of holding business hostage): ".........In summer 2010, the EPA’s regional administrator in Dallas, Obama appointee Al Armendariz, rejected Texas’ flexible-permit program, saying the state’s way of regulating big industrial plants since 1994 violated the Clean Air Act.

Sep 20, 2011: Ex-President Clinton: Green movement needs money " NEW YORK (AP) -- Former President Bill Clinton said Tuesday that the success of the alternative energy movement is hampered by a lack of financing. His comments came as world leaders attending his annual philanthropic conference expressed fears about rising seas.

The ex-president's three-day Clinton Global Initiative for VIPs with deep pockets began Tuesday with a frank discussion about addressing global climate challenges, co-hosted by Mexican President Felipe Calderon and South African President Jacob Zuma.There was a sense of frustration among the world leaders over the failure to create a legally binding world agreement on carbon emissions.........."

3 posted on 10/15/2011 1:31:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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December 27, 2010: EPA, Texas go to war over carbon-emission rules "And so it begins, and on the most fertile red-state territory in the nation. Texas, which got four more seats in the House through the 2010 Census reapportionment, has had its air-quality rules superceded by the EPA as part of its aggressive new action on carbon emissions. Governor Rick Perry promises a fight:............."

CALIFORNIA: …..“Texas Gov. Rick Perry has become a folk hero for people like Stewart as he's marketed his state as a low-cost and business-friendly alternative to California, which is fertile job-hunting ground for Perry. Texas has added 929,000 jobs since 2001, while California has lost approximately 635,000 manufacturing jobs in that same time, Stewart said.....

Perry has taken the state's regulatory process and managed it himself, Stewart said……… [CA Economic Development Corporation President Mark] Lascelles emphasized that it does no good to belabor California's regulatory environment. "Unfortunately, we can't avoid it. We have to deal with it," he said. Speaker focuses on job creation

Sept 12, 2011:Luminant sues EPA, says it will shut two coal units, cut 500 jobs …”At the Big Brown power plant in Freestone County, Units 1 and 2 will switch over to Powder River Basin coal and the nearby lignite mines will close. The moves will lead to about 500 job cuts, the company said.

“While Luminant is making preparations to meet the rule’s compliance deadline, this morning it also filed a legal challenge in an effort to protect facilities and employees, and to minimize the harm this rule will cause to electric reliability in Texas,” the company said in a statement.

The company is asking an appeals court for a stay implementing the Cross-State rule, saying it is illegal because the EPA didn’t include Texas in the draft rules released in 2010. The final rules released in June 2011 included a heavy emissions reduction burden for Texas.

4 posted on 10/15/2011 1:34:50 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Rick Perry jobs plan: Make rest of America more like Texas -- Working ........."Not all economists would put domestic energy production among their top five priorities for job growth. But many do see significant potential in this field, as the Perry campaign does.

For example, economist Peter Morici at the University of Maryland, in a recent analysis of the nation's employment crisis, wrote that "shutting down US oil and gas development is costing the US economy millions of jobs."

His view: An emphasis on domestic production could create jobs by dramatically reducing America's trade deficit, thus recycling more consumer dollars in the domestic economy. Promotion of energy production would also spill over into job creation in other industries, Mr. Morici says, as a need for refineries and pipelines boosts demand for construction workers, steel, and heavy machinery.".......

5 posted on 10/15/2011 1:38:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Why Rick Perry’s Energy Plan Might be a Game-Changer ......"The financial crisis of 2008 reached critical mass almost precisely three years ago. And in Washington, the band plays on.

It doesn’t have to be this way. The band in Washington isn’t really playing on; they took their hands off their musical instruments and put them around the country’s economic throat years ago. We are by talent and resources among the richest nations on earth, and by our political freedoms, far and away the greatest. But for going on 30 years now, while we have spent more money that we take in, we have chosen to put much of our natural wealth off limits. That choice has led in direct and indirect ways to the straits we find ourselves in now, at the mercy of some of the world’s worst actors to fuel our economy, and on the precipice of bankruptcy. The current president has taken just about every negative fiscal trend and choice and accelerated them. The best line about Obama is simple: He made it all worse. He has made it harder for us to exploit our natural wealth, by making more of it off-limits and by using regulations to make it either too difficult or even illegal to tap. Whether he believes he had noble reasons or not is irrelevant; the effect of Obama’s actions is that everything is more expensive, jobs are more scarce and America is less secure.

In his energy plan, Perry shows that he understands all of this, and will fix the problem.”…………………

6 posted on 10/15/2011 1:49:59 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Fred S. Singer: EPA's CO2 Endangerment Finding is Endangered In a narrow 5-4 decision in 2007, the US Supreme Court, authorized the EPA to consider the greenhouse gas CO2 as a 'pollutant' under the terms of the Clean Air Act -- provided EPA could demonstrate that CO2 posed a threat to human health and welfare..........

EPA may have leapt from the frying pan into the fire, because in the ongoing litigation over EPA's greenhouse gas regulations, a key claim made by the petitioners Coalition for Responsible Regulation is that when EPA developed its TSD and associated EF [Endangerment Finding], it unlawfully outsourced its "judgment" to the IPCC and other non-agency experts. ...The Coalition then sent a "request for judicial notice" to the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, asking the Court to take cognizance of the IG report and consider its implications for the case. [Marlo Lewis has written an informative and extremely useful article about this new development at GlobalWarming.Org]............ [NRO]

7 posted on 10/15/2011 3:05:30 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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Romney’s Troubling Appointments (Mitt's environmental policy team now works for Obama) …………….“"EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson has taken most of the fire from Republicans as her agency rolls out a slew of controversial new climate and clean air rules. But McCarthy, the EPA assistant administrator of the Office of Air and Radiation, has taken on much of the heavy lifting of writing, structuring, and implementing the rules.

“Lisa’s the coach and Gina’s the quarterback” in the work of rolling out new clean air regulations, said Daniel Weiss, an energy and climate policy expert at the Center for American Progress, a liberal think tank with close ties to the Obama administration. “She’s running the plays, improvising on the line.”

Another Romney environmental adviser in the effort to regulate “greenhouse gases” is now Obama’s Director of Science and Technology Policy, John Holdren. Dr. Holdren has some exotic views: …………..

8 posted on 10/15/2011 3:27:41 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

America’s clean energy industry is strong and thriving, even in this down economy
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If it’s so strong and thriving why are we subsidising it?

If we are all going to die in the polution, at least let me be warm, with the electric lights on or driving down the road enjoying the scenery.

Sitting in the dark in the clean air without a job, isn’t my idea of living.


9 posted on 10/15/2011 4:47:11 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Solar energy creates seven times more jobs than coal, nuclear and natural gas.”

7 out of 10 jobs will be with the government, the other three will receive 60% of their paycheck from the Tax Player. Need don’t more GSE like Fannie. Say No to any type so called “Infrastructure Bank”.


10 posted on 10/15/2011 5:04:14 AM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; RoosterRedux; jonrick46; deepbluesea; RockinRight; TexMom7; potlatch; ...
Perry Ping....

IF you'd rather NOT be pinged FReepmail me.

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11 posted on 10/15/2011 5:32:16 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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Sept 29, 2011: Texas led more than a dozen states in suing the EPA:

Feb 16, 2010: Texas Takes Legal Action Against Federal Government Over EPA CO2 Mandates

Gov. Rick Perry, Attorney General Greg Abbott and Agriculture Commissioner Todd Staples today announced that the state is taking legal action in the U.S. Court of Appeals challenging the Environmental Protection Agency’s (EPA) endangerment finding for greenhouse gases.

“Texas is aggressively seeking its future in alternative energy through incentives and innovation, not mandates and overreaching regulation,” Gov. Perry said. “The EPA’s misguided plan paints a big target on the backs of Texas agriculture and energy producers and the hundreds of thousands of Texans they employ. This legal action is being taken to protect the Texas economy and the jobs that go with it, as well as defend Texas’ freedom to continue our successful environmental strategies free from federal overreach.”

The state has filed a Petition for Review with the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, and will also file a Petition for Reconsideration with the Environmental Protection Agency, asking the administrator to review her decision. The state’s legal action indicates EPA’s Endangerment Finding is legally unsupported because the agency outsourced its scientific assessment to the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), which has been discredited by evidence of key scientists’ lack of objectivity, coordinated efforts to hide flaws in their research, attempts to keep contravening evidence out of IPCC reports and violation of freedom of information laws.

Texas has a record of working proactively to protect natural resources and improve environmental quality. We have reduced nitrogen oxide emissions by 46 percent, cut ozone levels by 22 percent and reduced carbon dioxide emissions more than nearly every other state, all without government mandates or extravagant fines. Rather than making traditional energy sources more expensive, Texas leaders continue to support making alternative energy technologies less expensive, thereby encouraging widespread commercial use and removing barriers to innovation and competition.

“With billions of dollars at stake, EPA outsourced the scientific basis for its greenhouse gas regulation to a scandal-plagued international organization that cannot be considered objective or trustworthy,” Attorney General Abbott said. “Prominent climate scientists associated with the IPCC were engaged in an ongoing, orchestrated effort to violate freedom of information laws, exclude scientific research, and manipulate temperature data. In light of the parade of controversies and improper conduct that has been uncovered, we know that the IPCC cannot be relied upon for objective, unbiased science – so EPA should not rely upon it to reach a decision that will hurt small businesses, farmers, ranchers, and the larger Texas economy.”

As noted in comments to the EPA filed by Gov. Perry last year, the agency’s decision to regulate greenhouse gases under the Clean Air Act will impose a tremendous regulatory and financial burden on farmers and ranchers, small businesses, and an energy sector that hundreds of thousands of Texans depend upon for their jobs — not to mention Texas families who face an estimated $1,200 in increased annual living costs during a down economy.

Texas’ agriculture industry, which accounts for $106 billion – or approximately 9.5 percent of Texas’ total gross state product – would be disproportionately damaged by the proposed regulations. Fully 80 percent of the land in Texas is used in some form of agricultural production. Additionally, 97 percent of Texas’ agricultural operations are run by individuals or families, and one out of seven working Texans is employed in some form of agriculture.

“EPA’s move to regulate greenhouse gases would impose devastating rules on those Texans who fuel one of our state’s largest economic sectors – farmers and ranchers,” Commissioner Staples said. “As a regulatory agency, the Texas Department of Agriculture is required to impose rules based on sound science – not political science. Not only does state law require this, but it is also a fundamental principle by which regulators all across the U.S. have always lived. EPA has ignored extensive research on greenhouse gas emissions and based this significant regulation on faulty data.”

Diversifying the state’s energy portfolio continues to be a priority for Gov. Perry. Texas has installed more wind power than any other state, and all but four countries, and has provided new transmission lines that will move more than 18,000 megawatts across the state. Texas has also attracted more than 9,000 megawatts of energy from the development of next-generation nuclear power plants. The state is also looking to add new clean coal plants that will capture and sequester carbon dioxide emissions, or use the carbon dioxide to increase production from Texas oil fields.

To view the legal petition, please click the link below.

Attached File: Petition for Reconsideration of Endangerment Cause Petition for Review

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Sept 30, 2011:Texas Air Pollution Compared to Other States

Gov. Rick Perry of Texas points to the state’s improved air quality as evidence that his policies work. But E.P.A. officials and independent analysts say improvements are largely caused by federal laws.

12 posted on 10/15/2011 5:34:52 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Cincinatus' Wife.
Perry's plan calls for scaling back basic EPA safeguards that protect our clean air and water. It would simultaneously expand development of dirty energy like coal, oil, and natural gas amounting to a one-two punch to Americans' health.
And it will also round up all the puppies, put them in a weighted bag, and throw them in the river.


13 posted on 10/15/2011 6:05:41 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; shield; smoothsailing; casinva; All

The Sierra Club is once again employing “junk science” to scare people.

http://junkscience.com/2011/10/13/ozone-not-correlated-with-asthma-hospitalizations-reports-new-junkscience-com-study/

“Ozone not correlated with asthma hospitalizations, reports new JunkScience.com study”

http://junkscience.com/2011/09/22/debunked-children-more-vulnerable-to-air-pollution/

“Debunked: Children more vulnerable to air pollution”
Posted on September 22, 2011 by Steve Milloy

http://junkscience.com/2011/08/19/air-pollution-scare-debunked/

“Air-pollution scare debunked”
Posted on August 19, 2011 by Steve Milloy


14 posted on 10/15/2011 6:49:39 AM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed:Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now, now. now!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That Sierra Club statement is enough to make a person be a Perry supporter right there.

the EPA is killing industry and has been for years. Bunch of bureaucrats sitting around wielding their power for no good reason.

Anyone who is passionate about getting rid of this bunch of eco-terrorists is a good man in my opinion.


15 posted on 10/15/2011 7:42:04 AM PDT by altura (Perry 2012)
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To: hocndoc

Environmental activism got going in earnest with Paul R. Ehrlich and his book The Population Bomb (1968) -— written with his wife Anne Ehrlich, and Obama’s Science and Technology Adviser, John P. Holdren (former adviser to Mitt Romney. Mitt also used Gina McCarthy, Obama-EPA’s top air pollution official). The Ehrlichs are still active in the dismantle America movement and Holdren is doing their bidding.


16 posted on 10/15/2011 7:54:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: altura

People have been so brainwashed.

Everyday they act, shop, worry — consider how they should get through the day in green ways.


17 posted on 10/15/2011 7:57:16 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Seventeen posts and all but four are the usual suspects, ten are yours.

This is spam. Fits the pattern.

18 posted on 10/15/2011 8:28:37 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I’ve posted this way for over 10 years.

I posted this way for Sarah Palin.

You can go jump in a lake — you self-appointed hall monitor.


19 posted on 10/15/2011 8:41:42 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: hocndoc; Cincinatus' Wife; shield; casinva

The Sierra Club won’t be happy until we’re all living in caves and grubbing for roota and berries.

You can tell alot about a man by who his enemies are. Give ‘em hell, Rick!


20 posted on 10/15/2011 8:51:01 AM PDT by smoothsailing (DEFEND OUR MARINES - http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I’ve posted this way for over 10 years.

Poppycock. I've been here longer than that and this is far more prevalent and extensive.

You can go jump in a lake — you self-appointed hall monitor.

This kind of advocacy loading up the sidebar has transformed you from an occasional poster into a shrieking harpie.

21 posted on 10/15/2011 8:51:37 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
you self-appointed hall monitor.

It's no surprise that you wouldn't recognize self-government when you saw it. Hence, it fits that you would support an empty-suit statist like Perry.

22 posted on 10/15/2011 8:54:26 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: hocndoc; Cincinatus' Wife; shield; casinva

woops! That should have read; “grubbing for roots and berries”.

Anyway, the Sierra Club can kiss my grit.


23 posted on 10/15/2011 8:56:38 AM PDT by smoothsailing (DEFEND OUR MARINES - http://warchronicle.com/TheyAreNotKillers/DefendOurMarines.htm)
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To: Carry_Okie

Do you send love notes like this to other posters or do you just monitor me?


24 posted on 10/15/2011 8:58:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Carry_Okie

You must not be trilled with Perry’s energy plan to people back to work.

I’d forgotten, you’re that tree-hugger with your own book.


25 posted on 10/15/2011 9:02:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

26 posted on 10/15/2011 9:03:55 AM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

If these Capitalism-destroying, Commie lovers hate Perry’s plan, I love it.


27 posted on 10/15/2011 9:05:51 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
We've now made it to Step 4:
  1. Post an MSM story favorable to said candidate or unfavorable in a manner supposedly attractive to conservatives.
  2. Immediately put up a blizzard of preconstructed posts containing related links, talking points, and excerpts about all sorts of candidate related schtuffe. These posts are to be of sufficient length that they encompass as much as most people would ever want to read. The purpose is not to get them to read it but to use up space so that by the time anyone with a contrary opinion might post, it is too far down the page for most people to bother. This technique turns a discussion forum into an advertising page. 
  3. Offer warning posts to one's cohorts that the (insert candidate initial here) "bots" or some other epithet will soon be there. Gasp! 
  4. If someone does show up and post the obvious, stand ready with one of two responses: either a canned set of factoids similar to item 2, or outright insults, obliquely condescending slaps, and other niceties. You and shield are real pros with these CW. 
  5. If said "opponent" provides significant fact or content, ignore it completely. Instead ping said cohorts, especially those with lists of backers. 
  6. By this time, the thread is populated either with only diehards or somebody with a point to make for future reference (as I did here). Little did they know that I was also doing this to expose the pattern with this post. The thread descends into what might otherwise appear to be a flame war.
  7. Repeat the process with similar postings with which to fill up the sidebar or make good an escape should they take too much of a beating on facts.

28 posted on 10/15/2011 9:08:19 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Carry_Okie

You put way to much thought into this. I worry about your sanity more than your motives for making up lists about posters. Your periodic call for others to be banned from FR is paranoia.

But if you need someone to talk to and keep you company, just keep posting and bumping the thread and someone else will eventually come along to comment about your efforts.


29 posted on 10/15/2011 9:15:23 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
If these Capitalism-destroying, Commie lovers hate Perry’s plan, I love it.

BUMP!

30 posted on 10/15/2011 9:17:54 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: shield

I LIKE!

A LOT!

Someone needs to tell him (or Anita) to get out word about Texas’ “Baker’s Law.”

That really strikes a chord with a lot of people.


31 posted on 10/15/2011 9:25:37 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Carry_Okie

So who do you think is better than Perry? Make your case. I’m Perry until someone better comes along.


32 posted on 10/15/2011 9:30:53 AM PDT by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; shield

Are you referring to this Texas Baker’s Law?

http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/82R/billtext/pdf/SB00081F.pdf#navpanes=0

SB 81 by Senator Jane Nelson

House Sponsor: Representative Lois Kolkhorst

Signed into law by Governor Rick Perry on 6/17/2011.

Summary of sections 5 and 6 of the bill, which pertain to Cottage Food Operations.


33 posted on 10/15/2011 9:55:01 AM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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To: smoothsailing

smoothsailing,

It’s not so bad eating roots and berries.

Here is a recipe for one of the EPA’s most popular recipes, Root Soup with a Texas Jalapeno flair in honor of Texas Governor Rick Perry.

Root Soup

5 Large Plum Tomatoes
1 Large Red Pepper
1/2 Medium Beet
1/4 C Pine Nuts
1/2 Small Jalapeno Chili Pepper (to taste)
1 clove of garlic
1/4C Chives
1T Horseradish

Put all except chives into a high powered blender and blend until smooth and creamy - sprinkle with chopped chives. Nice cold or warm. Nice topped with a small dollop of fermented cashew nut cheese.

Plus... A nice precursor to the Rick Perry TexMex Root Soup is the Roasted Root Vegetable & Wheat Berry Salad here:
http://www.davidlebovitz.com/2010/01/roasted-root-vegetable-wheat-ber/


34 posted on 10/15/2011 10:04:37 AM PDT by casinva (The stock in McDonalds has just gone down because Obama has been serving so many whoppers.)
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To: casinva
Here is a recipe for one of the EPA’s most popular recipes, Root Soup with a Texas Jalapeno flair in honor of Texas Governor Rick Perry.

Oh sure, now I know you're pulling my leg! LOL!

35 posted on 10/15/2011 10:15:37 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
So who do you think is better than Perry?

Better qualified: Newt, Santorum, Johnson, and Huntsman.

More intelligent: To the above add Romney, Bachmann and Cain.

More conservative: all of the above except Rommey, Johnson, and Huntsman. Newt is close to a tie.

That leaves Santorum, Bachmann, and Cain as probably better choices to be President. Politically, the first two have flamed. That leaves Cain. Am I happy about 9-9-9? No, but a NRST won't pass the Congress anyway. Perry is sinking while Cain is ascendant and polls better against both Romney and Zero. Not a bad indicator at this point.

36 posted on 10/15/2011 9:32:28 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Carry_Okie

I completely agree with you analysis of the candidates.

I receive emails from the Sierra club because I attended a meeting opposing the coal terminal in my county in WA state. I now have a new opinion of the Sierra club, from those emails. Most of the members of the Sierra Club seem to be well-intentioned dupes that just aren’t that smart.

One of issues that was covered in the last email notice was mercury in tuna. They warned that coal burning power plants could be polluting your tunafish sandwich with mercury because the coal burning power plants were polluting lakes streams.


37 posted on 10/15/2011 9:41:51 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva
Most of the members of the Sierra Club seem to be well-intentioned dupes that just aren’t that smart.

The lawyers who run it are another matter.

They warned that coal burning power plants could be polluting your tunafish sandwich with mercury because the coal burning power plants were polluting lakes streams.

Burning coal does introduce a lot of mercury, but a forest or brush fire in a cinnabar formation produces a lot more. The amount released from coal plants compared to background sources is not that big a deal and it could be a lot less if there was an economic reason to invest in new plants. With the threat of the Sierra Club around, regulatory risk becomes a big part of that decision.

38 posted on 10/15/2011 9:45:46 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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To: Eva
I completely agree with you analysis of the candidates.

You'll note that I didn't list Romney as "better qualified." There is a reason. Anybody who institutes an effectively socialized market in healthcare is too crooked to consider as "qualified" to be President. Anyone who engages in situational policy preferences without a serious explanation for the change is too dishonest to consider (Perry falls under that category too). Romney fails both.

39 posted on 10/15/2011 9:58:19 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who belong in jail.)
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