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APNewsBreak: US drops keeping troops in Iraq
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 10/15/11 | LARA JAKES and REBECCA SANTANA

Posted on 10/15/2011 5:45:45 PM PDT by DemforBush

BAGHDAD (AP) — The U.S. is abandoning plans to keep U.S. troops in Iraq past a year-end withdrawal deadline, The Associated Press has learned. The decision to pull out fully by January will effectively end more than eight years of U.S. involvement in the Iraq war, despite ongoing concerns about its security forces and the potential for instability...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afreakinqueen; daysnotweeks; illbehome4christmas; iraq; mymuslimfaith; obamabinbiden; troops
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1 posted on 10/15/2011 5:45:48 PM PDT by DemforBush
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To: DemforBush

P.S. Admins...I’ve never tried to post to Breaking News before, so if I goofed somewhere, sorry about that.


2 posted on 10/15/2011 5:46:48 PM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: DemforBush
the clowns in the white house denied this story not too long after it broke.

these fools can't get out of their own way.

3 posted on 10/15/2011 5:51:13 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: DemforBush

I guess we’ll be seeing a lot of Barry and the ‘RAT Tab and Apple Choir singing “I’ll Be Home for Winter Festival” during the Winter Festival Season this year.


4 posted on 10/15/2011 5:51:26 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Greed" is wanting everything and demanding that somebody else pay for it.)
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To: DemforBush
BUT DON'T CALL HIM A MUSLIM!!!
5 posted on 10/15/2011 5:51:42 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Better to ask forgiveness than permission.)
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To: DemforBush

The Walter Cronkites school wins another victory. The US surrenders.

Bring our troops home now!! All of them!! From everywhere in the world!! Before Commander Obama gets them all killed for nothing.


6 posted on 10/15/2011 5:54:24 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: DemforBush
Coming soon to the US Embassy in Baghdad


7 posted on 10/15/2011 5:57:26 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: JohnBrowdie

Thanks for the update. It appears the administration is taking the same change-by-the-minute approach they did with Egypt and Mubarak.

Sigh.


8 posted on 10/15/2011 5:59:17 PM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: dfwgator
My thoughts exactly:


9 posted on 10/15/2011 5:59:23 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: DemforBush
Can't we at least plug Sadr before we close the door?
10 posted on 10/15/2011 6:03:11 PM PDT by Shqipo (I am AttackWatch parolee #1,237. I am breaking my parole once more.)
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To: Jim Robinson

As General Patton said “I don’t like paying for the same ground twice”. Thus lets pull out, but if the occasion occurs again that we need to return, we should install a parking lot first.

Frankly with the rules of engagement our troops have to work with this may be the right thing. Plus we will need them back here to remove the Socialist and Anti Americans for the offices they will be voted out of. Oh yea then tried for treason.


11 posted on 10/15/2011 6:04:22 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: Jim Robinson; All

And here’s the danger of electing someone simply because on the surface, they seem good at debates, deliver “soaring” oratory, and look good in a suit. America fell for one of those this time—don’t let Republicans elect another one in the primaries! I’m seeing several really good Republican candidates rejected, even on FR, because they don’t possess these shallow qualities that got Obama elected. If we pick Romney for our candidate, we just have Obama with an “R” instead of a “D.”


12 posted on 10/15/2011 6:05:42 PM PDT by MizSterious (Apparently, there's no honor when it comes to someone else's retirement funds.)
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To: Jim Robinson

I feel like they are doing this preparation for an Obama campaign add

“I ended the war in Iraq”

airing on TV stations across the country next year while those same TV stations will not cover the story on the horror that breaks loose when we are gone.


13 posted on 10/15/2011 6:06:02 PM PDT by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

Yup. Obama: Let the killing fields begin.


14 posted on 10/15/2011 6:07:58 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: DemforBush

Shoring up his base...commies and protestors/flea bags should be happy. Gee, right before the election? Go figure.


15 posted on 10/15/2011 6:08:03 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Keep your head up and keep moving forward!)
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To: DemforBush
update from president chaos : We're not leaving early, but we are leaving early

this is just embarrassing.

16 posted on 10/15/2011 6:08:30 PM PDT by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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Are You A Whining FReeper?

Got A Gripe So You Won't Donate?


Click The Pic

Isn't That Like Setting Fire To Your Own Home?

When FR Is Gone, Where Will You Go Then?

17 posted on 10/15/2011 6:10:04 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: dfwgator

Sorry, I don’t see this as a valid comparison to Vietnam. We lost there. In Iraq we have won. We got rid of Saddam, crushed Al Qaeda In Iraq, rebuilt the miltarty, and put a democratic government, however disfunctional, in place. We still have forces in Kuwait. Can’t we ever win one and go home?

Of course Bush did the heavy lifting, and Obama will take credit, but that’s the breaks.


18 posted on 10/15/2011 6:14:55 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: DemforBush

Good! We’ve wasted enough blood and treasure trying to nation build in that hell hole.


19 posted on 10/15/2011 6:16:50 PM PDT by KantianBurke (Where was the Tea Party when Dubya was spending like a drunken sailor?)
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To: DemforBush

Iran is probably going to move right in.


20 posted on 10/15/2011 6:16:53 PM PDT by Moorings
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To: Hugin

Lost? As in lost the battle? No way, Jose. Lost the media war, thanks to commie lovers like Cronkite.


21 posted on 10/15/2011 6:18:14 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: Moorings

We should deal with Iran directly, once and for all. Anyway, if the Iraqis want us out I don’t see how we can stay. At least Obama didn’t compromise our troops legal immunity.


22 posted on 10/15/2011 6:22:46 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: se_ohio_young_conservative

But we STILL have a military presence in Japan, South Korea, and Europe 50-70 years later. No way Obama’s going to withdraw ALL of the troops. It would mean genocide for the Iraqi citizenry. He would OWN the bloodbath that would soon follow.


23 posted on 10/15/2011 6:27:03 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: DemforBush

Obama needs more troops for the Dark Continent.


24 posted on 10/15/2011 6:28:47 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Obama's secret: "Once you learn to fake sincerity you've got it made")
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To: Jim Robinson
Lost? As in lost the battle?

No, I know we won all the battles. Lost as in our political goals for entering the war wer not met, because our leaders fought for a draw, while the enemy fought for a win. In Iraq we have met all of our important political goals. Now the elected Iraqi government, that we put in place, wants us to leave, and will handle their own security. I don't see how we could refuse to go.

25 posted on 10/15/2011 6:28:56 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Jim Robinson

We went to Vietnam to contain communism, and Vietnam has been communist since we left. Sounds like losing to me.

As for Iraq, it is no longer worth our time and treasure. We’ve done everything we set out to do, and its time for them to stand on their own two feet. I’m with another poster... can’t we win one and just go home for a change?


26 posted on 10/15/2011 6:32:43 PM PDT by bigdaddy45
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To: DemforBush

Years ago...

US: We want to be out ASAP.
Iraq: Please stay as long as you can.

Today...

US: We want to have permanent base to use against Iran.
Iraq: Please leave ASAP.


27 posted on 10/15/2011 6:36:20 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: DemforBush

hussein sucks.


28 posted on 10/15/2011 6:38:44 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: DemforBush

Just a reallocation of assets. Bring them home in time for a Christmas break so they can be in the new theatre of Uganda chasing Christian freedom fighters wanting to rid their country of the radical Islamists.


29 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:36 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: bigdaddy45

Not because we lost on the battlefield. Our media and politicians lost the war for us at home.


30 posted on 10/15/2011 6:41:56 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: bigdaddy45
Do you want Iraq to become an Iranian puppet and threat Israel? When you say we should leave Iraq, it is equivalent of saying destroy Israel. When Iraq becomes an Iranian puppet, guess what, the Hezbollah will have access to Syria via Iraq on ground and air, and be able to prepare to send massive force to invade Israel. I do not want to hear about comparing Vietnam with Iraq again, which Iraq is important to defend Israel from antisemitism regime of Iran.
31 posted on 10/15/2011 6:43:16 PM PDT by Wiz
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To: bigdaddy45
Leave those Iraqi's a big stash of bullets and let them shoot it out with each other.
32 posted on 10/15/2011 6:43:19 PM PDT by baiamonte
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To: mazda77

There you go. Hussein is simply shifting our military resources from fighting against Islamic terrorism, to fighting FOR his Muslim brothers.


33 posted on 10/15/2011 6:44:57 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is brewing!! Impeach the corrupt Marxist bastard!!)
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To: boop
He would OWN the bloodbath that would soon follow.

No, the Iraqis would own it. They are the ones insisting we submit US troops to Iraqi law, or leave.

34 posted on 10/15/2011 6:45:11 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: DemforBush

Arab spring is about to become Arab winter, but on the bright side, Israel won’t have to ask to overfly Iraq ever again.


35 posted on 10/15/2011 6:45:58 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Hugin
Sorry, I don’t see this as a valid comparison to Vietnam. We lost there.

Nope. We had evicerated the North Vietnamese Army and virtually wiped out the Viet Cong. A remarkable accomplishment given the the insane ROE's we shackled our troops with. All we needed to do was provide a modicum of support to the South Vietnamese (just like we need to be doing in Iraq).
Democrats in Congress wouldn't even do that for our allies. Tens of thousands that suppoerted a free South Vietnam were slaughtered or imprisoned when the country was overrun. Maybe we'll see a replay in Iraq in a few years...

36 posted on 10/15/2011 6:46:19 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: Hugin
We lost there.

So you bought that Walter Cronkite BS too? We had that one won after the Tet Offensive. The NVA was preparing to surrender until General Cronkite decided that we lost.

This was in a day and time that the media was trusted and we only had the three networks.

37 posted on 10/15/2011 6:48:09 PM PDT by mazda77 (and I am a Native Texan)
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To: Wiz

So what do you want to do? The Iraqi government wants us to either submit our troops to Iraqi law or leave, which, btw, we signed an agreement to do. Are we supposed to overthrow the government we set up militarily occupy Iraq forever? What do you suggest? I would like to hear a real plan.


38 posted on 10/15/2011 6:53:07 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Moorings
Iran is probably going to move right in.

Fixed it.

39 posted on 10/15/2011 6:58:10 PM PDT by The Theophilus (Obama's Key to win 2012: Ban Haloperidol)
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To: GOP_Party_Animal; mazda77

There are more than one way to win a war, or lose it. We didn’t lose on the battlefield, but we lost. As Clauswitz said, war is the continuation of politics by other means. It doesn’t matter who won the battles, if you don’t acheive your political goals. The NV goal was to take SV and create a united communist state. Our goal was to stop them. They won, we lost.


40 posted on 10/15/2011 6:59:15 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Hugin
I don’t see this as a valid comparison to Vietnam. We lost there.

Not actually. We won decisively in military action. The lying bastard Water Cronkite falsely reported that we lost, and the rest of the MSM (sole source of information then) played along.

Even the South Vietnamese did well at holding the line and forcing the North to retreat, UNTIL the DemoRat traitors in Congress cut off their funding and ammunition.

The Rats have been traitors since WWII.

41 posted on 10/15/2011 6:59:35 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

“The Rats have been traitors since WWII.”

Good Post, but actually traitors since WWl, Woodrow Wilson l.


42 posted on 10/15/2011 7:08:34 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: dfwgator

Deja Vu all over again. Dayum!

Marxist, Muslim bastard.


43 posted on 10/15/2011 7:09:51 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Navy Patriot

I followed it all and do remember it vividly. The RVNs did well with US air support. When we withdrew it they crumpled. It is true that Congress cut off aid at the end, but they still had huge stockpiles in place. In any case, the whole goal of the NV was to bleed us until the American public got sick and demanded a withdrawal. They had a lot of help from various people on the left, but more than anything people just got sick of the war. Personally I blame Johnson for getting us into a war with no real plan to win. I just don’t see any comparison with Iraq.


44 posted on 10/15/2011 7:10:15 PM PDT by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you his bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: DemforBush

Did we ever fight such a long, costly and important war and then pull out completely in 8 years?

Where next? South Korea and the DMZ perhaps?

hmmm


45 posted on 10/15/2011 7:14:45 PM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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To: Hugin
The NV goal was to take SV and create a united communist state. Our goal was to stop them.

A significantly large portion of the DemoRat party (in power at the time), American media, entertainment industry and unions goal was to create a Communist state right here in the USA and everywhere else they could.

We had no common goal.

46 posted on 10/15/2011 7:16:44 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: dfwgator

I doubt it. Iraq is stronger than that compared to its enemies.


47 posted on 10/15/2011 7:30:42 PM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, serve my country, love my wife and daughter, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: rockinqsranch
actually traitors since WWl, Woodrow Wilson l.

You are, of course, correct.

Early in the 20th Century, Communists promoted their cause openly, and there is proof that Joe Stalin funded numerous Communist front groups (ACLU), Lenin had sent operatives as well. The New York Times had Soviet reporters that fully informed them of Stalin's genocides, and they published not a word.

Before WWII they all went to ground because they were attracting the attention of anti communists, and continued with the infiltration and sabotage to this very day ("environmentalists").

48 posted on 10/15/2011 7:31:36 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Hugin

Sisyphus didn’t have it as hard as someone trying to disabuse folks of comforting myths.


49 posted on 10/15/2011 7:32:45 PM PDT by Hoplite
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To: DemforBush

15 MAR 2003

 

 

50 posted on 10/15/2011 7:55:06 PM PDT by LomanBill (Animals! The DemocRats blew up the windmill with an Acorn!)
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